• Q multi-comparison and deLong test

    From Cosine@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 8 07:56:02 2023
    Hi:

    When doing multi-comparison we need to do the correction for the potential increase of the type I error, e.g., the Bonferroni correction. Could we avoid doing this correction by using the deLong test since this method is somehow conservative for
    comparing multiple pairs of the area under the curve?

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  • From Rich Ulrich@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 8 19:51:20 2023
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Cosine <asecant@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Hi:

    When doing multi-comparison we need to do the correction for the
    potential increase of the type I error, e.g., the Bonferroni
    correction. Could we avoid doing this correction by using the deLong
    test since this method is somehow conservative for comparing multiple
    pairs of the area under the curve?

    The deLong test is a test for ROC curves, which is NOT a
    circumstance where Bonferroni correction would be
    appropriate.

    Looking for the deLong test, I found this article by Frank
    Harrell. On a quick read, I take it as a bit of a tough read. It
    recommends 'Other' -- The link has the full article.

    (Harrell is reliable. Years ago, I promoted his comments
    on the hazards of using stepwise regression, and they have
    been much cited since then.)
    https://www.fharrell.com/post/addvalue/

    After two paragraphs of introduction, it says,
    Statisticians have no better sense of history than other
    scientists. In the quest for publishing new ideas, measures of added
    value are constantly being invented by statisticians, without asking
    whether older methods already solve the problem at hand. Some of the
    examples of measures that are commonly used but are not needed in
    this setting are the -index (F. E. Harrell et al. (1982); area under
    the ROC curve if the outcome is binary), and IDI and NRI. They are
    not needed because measures based on standard regression methods are
    not only adequate to the task, but are more powerful and more
    flexible and insightful,

    --
    Rich Ulrich

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