Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion
passengers to space(*) and landed safely.
On 2021-07-11 12:36, Alain Fournier wrote:
Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion passengers to space(*) and landed safely.
The reality checks I got here means I have very little excitement for
this joy ride which does nothing to advance space travel as the "ship"
used has no upgrade potential.
Funny how media tout this as space flight instead of an amusement park
joy ride.
Funny how media tout this as space flight instead of an amusement park
joy ride.
It's both.
In article <9uHGI.11169$VU3.2612@fx46.iad>,
jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca says...
On 2021-07-11 12:36, Alain Fournier wrote:
Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion
passengers to space(*) and landed safely.
The reality checks I got here means I have very little excitement for
this joy ride which does nothing to advance space travel as the "ship"
used has no upgrade potential.
Funny how media tout this as space flight instead of an amusement park
joy ride.
It's both.
On 2021-07-11 12:36, Alain Fournier wrote:
Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion
passengers to space(*) and landed safely.
The reality checks I got here means I have very little excitement for
this joy ride which does nothing to advance space travel as the "ship"
used has no upgrade potential.
On Jul/11/2021 at 15:18, JF Mezei wrote :
On 2021-07-11 12:36, Alain Fournier wrote:
Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion
passengers to space(*) and landed safely.
The reality checks I got here means I have very little excitement for
this joy ride which does nothing to advance space travel as the "ship"
used has no upgrade potential.
I agree that the upgrade potential for SpaceShip Two is very low. I
consider Blue Origin and SpaceX to be the important players for space tourism.
Nonetheless, I might be wrong but I expect Virgin Galactic will have a
lower operation cost than Blue Origin and SpaceX. So I think that the competition from Virgin Galactic will push them to make sure that their offering is sufficiently superior to what Virgin Galactic is offering to
make up for the price difference. What I am saying is that competition
is good.
Alain Fournier
Nonetheless, I might be wrong but I expect Virgin Galactic will have a
lower operation cost than Blue Origin and SpaceX.
Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion
passengers to space(*) and landed safely.
Great job Virgin Galactic.
(*) Not quite above the Karman line, but in space according to some >definitions.
Alain Fournier
On 2021-07-11 19:59, Alain Fournier wrote:
Nonetheless, I might be wrong but I expect Virgin Galactic will have a
lower operation cost than Blue Origin and SpaceX.
Virgin's ship belongs at a 6 flags amusement park. not quite tourism,
just a thrill ride that lasts a few seconds in near 0 G.
SpaceX is able to get you to 25,000kmh in "space", while Virgin is at
near 0 when it reaches "space". SpaceX gets to stay in orbit, Virgin
falls back down.
SpaceX can get you to the Hilton at the ISS to stay a few days, and
makes Bell Systems video call back home. Virgin can only jump up and
down, can't stay up there.
Doesn't means there isn't any demand for a short joy ride. But the two
are very different.
Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion
passengers to space(*) and landed safely.
Great job Virgin Galactic.
(*) Not quite above the Karman line, but in space according to some >definitions.
Alain Fournier
On 2021-07-11 17:09, Jeff Findley wrote:
Funny how media tout this as space flight instead of an amusement park
joy ride.
It's both.
It isn't actually travelling in space. It just rises to touch "space"
and then falls back. So I say it is a flight, but not a space flight
as it doesn't actually travel in space.
I asked a while back and it was made clear to me that this
plane/technology has no potential to actually travel in space, as in
"not even close".
Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion passengers to space(*) and landed safely.
Great job Virgin Galactic.
(*) Not quite above the Karman line, but in space according to some definitions.
Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion
passengers to space(*) and landed safely.
Great job Virgin Galactic.
(*) Not quite above the Karman line, but in space according to some >definitions.
Alain Fournier
on 7/11/2021, Alain Fournier supposed :
Virgin Galactic has succeeded in sending Branson and his companion passengers
to space(*) and landed safely.
Great job Virgin Galactic.
(*) Not quite above the Karman line, but in space according to some definitions.
And some thoughts about it by a respected space reporter:
<URL:https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/07/heres-why-richard-bransons-flight-matters-and-yes-it-really-matters/>
It's suborbital space flight.
It has no chance of evolving into an *orbital* vehicle. Which I believe
is what you were asking at the time.
BTW, I find that Tito, Shuttleworth and Guy Laliberté's COMMERCIAL
flights to ISS were far more significant than this small joyride to
nowhere.
Ironically made possible by Shuttle creating spare capacity on Soyuz,
and I would assume that this may restart now that Crew Dragon is a reality.
But tourism to ISS also depends on need to rotate ships. In the past
you had a visiting crew with new ship and returning on old after staying
a few days at the ISS Hilton. But if ships now stay with the crews,
there there are no longer short duration trips posisble with crews just switching the ships and coming back.
JF Mezei speculated:
BTW, I find that Tito, Shuttleworth and Guy Laliberté's COMMERCIAL
flights to ISS were far more significant than this small joyride to
nowhere.
Nope, limited to billionaires and corporately sponsored special choices,
and with much more training requirements.
Ironically made possible by Shuttle creating spare capacity on Soyuz,
and I would assume that this may restart now that Crew Dragon is a
reality.
Crew Dragon already has commercial passengers scheduled, but still out of >reach without big bucks or corporate sponsorship. The number of movies
shot at the space station is still limited by theatrical release schedules, >not storage on your iPhone.
But tourism to ISS also depends on need to rotate ships. In the past
you had a visiting crew with new ship and returning on old after staying
a few days at the ISS Hilton. But if ships now stay with the crews,
there there are no longer short duration trips posisble with crews just
switching the ships and coming back.
I don't see any problem with a short duration trip if you're paying for the >Crew Dragon flight. Docking ports may be a limitation, though.
/dps
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JF Mezei speculated:
BTW, I find that Tito, Shuttleworth and Guy Laliberté's COMMERCIAL
flights to ISS were far more significant than this small joyride to
nowhere.
Nope, limited to billionaires and corporately sponsored special choices, and >> with much more training requirements.
Ironically made possible by Shuttle creating spare capacity on Soyuz,
and I would assume that this may restart now that Crew Dragon is a
reality.
Crew Dragon already has commercial passengers scheduled, but still out of
reach without big bucks or corporate sponsorship. The number of movies
shot at the space station is still limited by theatrical release schedules, >> not storage on your iPhone.
But tourism to ISS also depends on need to rotate ships. In the past
you had a visiting crew with new ship and returning on old after staying >>> a few days at the ISS Hilton. But if ships now stay with the crews,
there there are no longer short duration trips posisble with crews just
switching the ships and coming back.
I don't see any problem with a short duration trip if you're paying for the >> Crew Dragon flight. Docking ports may be a limitation, though.
Actually it's already scheduled: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_Mission_1
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