• Starship

    From Alain Fournier@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 13 21:02:59 2022
    We are getting closer to a starship orbital launch:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/13/science/spacex-starship-faa-review.html


    Alain Fournier

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  • From Alain Fournier@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 18 10:03:26 2022
    Does anyone have information about when SpaceX will attempt a full
    Starship launch? Where are they with those 75 actions needed to get
    their launch licence? In July, Musk was saying that a launch vehicle was
    to be ready within a few weeks. So is there a Starship ready just
    waiting for its launch licence?

    I know that SKY Perfect JSAT Holdings Inc has a contract with SpaceX for delivery of its Superbird-9 satellite on a Starship launcher in 2024.
    But there should be some earlier test launches.


    Alain Fournier

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  • From JF Mezei@21:1/5 to Alain Fournier on Mon Sep 19 05:02:24 2022
    On 2022-09-18 10:03, Alain Fournier wrote:
    Does anyone have information about when SpaceX will attempt a full
    Starship launch?



    My impression is that they have gone from cowboy "iterative RUD" tests
    to being at a point where they can't afford that anymore, in part dur to complexity of launch tower. So they are more careful now and less and disposable prototype stage and more at building real rocket stage.

    During a recent interview with a youtuber where he shows some Raptor
    engines, he explained that the big challenge was engine start and it was
    very challenging. This would explain why so many tests last for only a
    few seconds because that is what they are testing.


    So my guess is that they don't know when launch will happen, they likely
    have a schedule of tests to be done succesfully before they will
    consider planning a launch.

    Question: when doing engine test, is there a reaosn why they coudln't
    light up say 7 engines on the booster, turn them off, then light up the
    next 7, turn them off, then light up the next 7 etc ? This would
    involve single tanking of the vehicle and reduce time that roads etc are
    closed and allow more time to do construction work on site since it
    would reduce need for evacuations?

    Or is this a case of only a limited number of engines have had a bug
    fix/tweak so they can only test those before rolling out the fix to the
    other engines?

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  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 19 01:27:15 2022
    Just this Sunday, Alain Fournier puzzled about:
    Does anyone have information about when SpaceX will attempt a full Starship launch? Where are they with those 75 actions needed to get their launch licence? In July, Musk was saying that a launch vehicle was to be ready within a few weeks. So is there a Starship ready just waiting for its launch licence?

    No. Starship 24 has done a static fire of all 6 engines. Booster 7
    has done a static fire of at least 3 engines (1 in all 3 rings) and
    spin prime tests of at least 7 engines. End of October for a launch
    test is thought to be possible but only if no hiccups occur in the rest
    of the ground testing.

    I know that SKY Perfect JSAT Holdings Inc has a contract with SpaceX for delivery of its Superbird-9 satellite on a Starship launcher in 2024. But there should be some earlier test launches.

    I expect to see several launches in 2023. Ships 25 and 26 will be
    ready by January, and Booster 8 before then, and McGregor is being kept
    busy testing Raptor 2's. Rings to build more Starships and more
    Boosters are plentiful.

    Expect to see more design changes. Starship flaps will likely be a
    visible change to be seen sometime after 26.

    /dps

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  • From Alain Fournier@21:1/5 to Snidely on Thu Sep 22 20:53:16 2022
    On Sep/19/2022 at 04:27, Snidely wrote :
    Just this Sunday, Alain Fournier puzzled about:
    Does anyone have information about when SpaceX will attempt a full
    Starship launch? Where are they with those 75 actions needed to get
    their launch licence? In July, Musk was saying that a launch vehicle
    was to be ready within a few weeks. So is there a Starship ready just
    waiting for its launch licence?

    No.  Starship 24 has done a static fire of all 6 engines.  Booster 7 has done a static fire of at least 3 engines (1 in all 3 rings) and spin
    prime tests of at least 7 engines.  End of October for a launch test is thought to be possible but only if no hiccups occur in the rest of the
    ground testing.

    I know that SKY Perfect JSAT Holdings Inc has a contract with SpaceX
    for delivery of its Superbird-9 satellite on a Starship launcher in
    2024. But there should be some earlier test launches.

    I expect to see several launches in 2023.  Ships 25 and 26 will be ready
    by January, and Booster 8 before then, and McGregor is being kept busy testing Raptor 2's.   Rings to build more Starships and more Boosters
    are plentiful.

    Expect to see more design changes.  Starship flaps will likely be a
    visible change to be seen sometime after 26.


    Teslarati has an interesting article about this. Elon says November is
    highly likely, possibly late October.

    www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-orbital-launch-date-elon-musk-2022/

    But of course, we all know that Elon's schedules can slip. The author of
    the teslarati article says before end of 2022 is implausible.


    Alain Fournier

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  • From Alain Fournier@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 8 19:46:08 2023
    It seems likely that SpaceX will have an orbital launch of Starship
    within a few months.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/elon-musk-says-attempt-starship-launch-march-2023-02-04/

    or in tinyurl: https://tinyurl.com/yckpf4be


    Alain Fournier

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