• Re: PNN Latest Development

    From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to pnn calmagorod on Thu May 26 11:09:48 2022
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 27 11:40:53 2022
    On Thu, 26 May 2022 11:09:48 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.


    illusions of the ignorant!

    when the effect exceeds the diameter of the power cable it cannot be a
    thermal effect but only a thrust.

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  • From Alain Fournier@21:1/5 to Doctor Who on Fri May 27 07:09:45 2022
    On May/27/2022 at 05:40, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Thu, 26 May 2022 11:09:48 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.


    illusions of the ignorant!

    when the effect exceeds the diameter of the power cable it cannot be a thermal effect but only a thrust.

    No. Thermal effects can provide thrust for large distances. But the
    effect disappears when you get out of the atmosphere. If you heat the
    air on one side of your gizmo, you will get thrust towards the other
    side while in an atmosphere. You will not get that thrust in vacuum.


    Alain Fournier

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to alain245@videotron.ca on Fri May 27 19:26:49 2022
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 07:09:45 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On May/27/2022 at 05:40, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Thu, 26 May 2022 11:09:48 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.


    illusions of the ignorant!

    when the effect exceeds the diameter of the power cable it cannot be a
    thermal effect but only a thrust.

    No. Thermal effects can provide thrust for large distances. But the
    effect disappears when you get out of the atmosphere. If you heat the
    air on one side of your gizmo, you will get thrust towards the other
    side while in an atmosphere. You will not get that thrust in vacuum.


    Alain Fournier


    Yes yes, but you know nothing about PNN so shut up now.

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  • From Alain Fournier@21:1/5 to Doctor Who on Sun May 29 09:14:04 2022
    On May/27/2022 at 13:26, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 07:09:45 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On May/27/2022 at 05:40, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Thu, 26 May 2022 11:09:48 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.


    illusions of the ignorant!

    when the effect exceeds the diameter of the power cable it cannot be a
    thermal effect but only a thrust.

    No. Thermal effects can provide thrust for large distances. But the
    effect disappears when you get out of the atmosphere. If you heat the
    air on one side of your gizmo, you will get thrust towards the other
    side while in an atmosphere. You will not get that thrust in vacuum.


    Alain Fournier


    Yes yes, but you know nothing about PNN so shut up now.

    I'm just trying to help here. Have you measured the temperatures on the
    front and the back of your thrusters? If the temperature difference can
    explain the thrust your measuring, that would fit better with known
    science than not Newtownian physics.


    Alain Fournier

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  • From Mikko@21:1/5 to Alain Fournier on Sun May 29 17:43:41 2022
    On 2022-05-29 13:14:04 +0000, Alain Fournier said:

    On May/27/2022 at 13:26, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 07:09:45 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On May/27/2022 at 05:40, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Thu, 26 May 2022 11:09:48 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>> wrote:

    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/


    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.


    illusions of the ignorant!

    when the effect exceeds the diameter of the power cable it cannot be a >>>> thermal effect but only a thrust.

    No. Thermal effects can provide thrust for large distances. But the
    effect disappears when you get out of the atmosphere. If you heat the
    air on one side of your gizmo, you will get thrust towards the other
    side while in an atmosphere. You will not get that thrust in vacuum.


    Alain Fournier


    Yes yes, but you know nothing about PNN so shut up now.

    I'm just trying to help here. Have you measured the temperatures on the
    front and the back of your thrusters? If the temperature difference can explain the thrust your measuring, that would fit better with known
    science than not Newtownian physics.


    Alain Fournier

    It must be tested in vacuum. Otherwise nobody is going to carry it to
    an orbit or beyond.

    Mikko

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  • From Dean Markley@21:1/5 to Mikko on Tue May 31 04:24:55 2022
    On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 10:43:43 AM UTC-4, Mikko wrote:
    On 2022-05-29 13:14:04 +0000, Alain Fournier said:

    On May/27/2022 at 13:26, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 07:09:45 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alai...@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On May/27/2022 at 05:40, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Thu, 26 May 2022 11:09:48 +1000, Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> >>>> wrote:

    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/


    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.


    illusions of the ignorant!

    when the effect exceeds the diameter of the power cable it cannot be a >>>> thermal effect but only a thrust.

    No. Thermal effects can provide thrust for large distances. But the
    effect disappears when you get out of the atmosphere. If you heat the
    air on one side of your gizmo, you will get thrust towards the other
    side while in an atmosphere. You will not get that thrust in vacuum.


    Alain Fournier


    Yes yes, but you know nothing about PNN so shut up now.

    I'm just trying to help here. Have you measured the temperatures on the front and the back of your thrusters? If the temperature difference can explain the thrust your measuring, that would fit better with known
    science than not Newtownian physics.


    Alain Fournier
    It must be tested in vacuum. Otherwise nobody is going to carry it to
    an orbit or beyond.

    Mikko

    I've noticed that any time someone asks a reasonable scientific question of PNN, the reply is either insults, incoherence or "you are wrong". Not a very good use of science.

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to alain245@videotron.ca on Tue May 31 17:52:39 2022
    On Sun, 29 May 2022 09:14:04 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On May/27/2022 at 13:26, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 07:09:45 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On May/27/2022 at 05:40, Doctor Who wrote :
    On Thu, 26 May 2022 11:09:48 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> >>>> wrote:

    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.


    illusions of the ignorant!

    when the effect exceeds the diameter of the power cable it cannot be a >>>> thermal effect but only a thrust.

    No. Thermal effects can provide thrust for large distances. But the
    effect disappears when you get out of the atmosphere. If you heat the
    air on one side of your gizmo, you will get thrust towards the other
    side while in an atmosphere. You will not get that thrust in vacuum.


    Alain Fournier


    Yes yes, but you know nothing about PNN so shut up now.

    I'm just trying to help here. Have you measured the temperatures on the
    front and the back of your thrusters? If the temperature difference can >explain the thrust your measuring, that would fit better with known
    science than not Newtownian physics.


    Alain Fournier


    why can't you understand that we made all possible tests and found
    that there is a thrust ?

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 08:22:21 2022
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect 😊

    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect😊

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle

    Can you understand this? www.asps.it/PNN489.mp4 at 432 Mhz

    No i suspect 😊

    Continue happy with propulsion concept of such imbecile

    www.asps.it/ohcomeportilecalze.jpg


    😊

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to pnn calmagorod on Thu Jun 2 22:05:43 2022
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect 😊

    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect😊

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle

    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction.

    Sylvia.

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 2 14:27:39 2022
    On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:05:43 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto: >>> On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ?

    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle

    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction.

    Sylvia.


    LOL, you are a good clown.

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 2 10:47:10 2022
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect 😊

    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect😊

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction.

    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to pnn calmagorod on Fri Jun 3 11:07:15 2022
    On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect 😊

    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect😊

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction.

    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)

    That's gibberish.

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 2 21:49:12 2022
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect 😊 >>>
    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect😊

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction.

    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 3 08:35:04 2022
    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 11:07:15 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto: >>> On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ?

    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction.

    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)

    That's gibberish.

    you just wrote the proof that you understand nothing.

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  • From Alain Fournier@21:1/5 to pnn calmagorod on Fri Jun 3 07:27:09 2022
    On Jun/3/2022 at 00:49, pnn calmagorod wrote :
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect 😊 >>>>>
    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect😊

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction.

    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

    Newton also new nothing about cars. Yet his third law seems to apply
    very well to cars. If Newton's third law didn't apply to Lorentz force
    in any significant way, then CERN's particle accelerator would run into
    serious trouble.


    Alain Fournier

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to alain245@videotron.ca on Fri Jun 3 15:53:32 2022
    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:27:09 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On Jun/3/2022 at 00:49, pnn calmagorod wrote :
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto: >>> On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ?

    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction. >>>>>
    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

    Newton also new nothing about cars. Yet his third law seems to apply
    very well to cars. If Newton's third law didn't apply to Lorentz force
    in any significant way, then CERN's particle accelerator would run into >serious trouble.


    Alain Fournier

    are you aware that CERN's particle accelerator violates newton's law?

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to alain245@videotron.ca on Fri Jun 3 20:28:54 2022
    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:27:09 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On Jun/3/2022 at 00:49, pnn calmagorod wrote :
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto: >>> On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ?

    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction. >>>>>
    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

    Newton also new nothing about cars. Yet his third law seems to apply
    very well to cars. If Newton's third law didn't apply to Lorentz force
    in any significant way, then CERN's particle accelerator would run into >serious trouble.


    Alain Fournier


    High Energy Physics - Phenomenology

    [Submitted on 8 Apr 2018 (v1), last revised 30 May 2018 (this version,
    v2)]



    Momentum Sum Rule Violation in QCD at High

    Energy Colliders and Confinement



    Gouranga C Nayak

    Momentum sum rule in QCD is widely used at high energy colliders.
    Although the exact form of the confinement potential energy is not
    known but the confinement potential energy at large distance r can not
    rise slower than ln(r). In this paper we find that if the confinement
    potential energy at large distance r rises linearly with r (or faster)
    then the momentum sum rule in QCD is violated at the high energy
    colliders if we consider the hadron size as infinite.

    For finite size hadron we find that the momentum sum rule in QCD is
    violated at the high energy colliders for any form of the confinement
    potential energy.

    Comments:


    2 New Sections, 13 pages latex

    Subjects:


    HHigh Energy Physics - Phenomenology (hep-ph); High Energy Physics -
    Lattice (hep-lat); Nuclear Theory (nucl-th)

    Cite as:


    arXiv:1804.02712 [hep-ph]

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 4 13:14:21 2022
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 15:53:34 UTC+2 Doctor Who ha scritto:
    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:27:09 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alai...@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On Jun/3/2022 at 00:49, pnn calmagorod wrote :
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ? >>>>>>
    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction. >>>>>
    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

    Newton also new nothing about cars. Yet his third law seems to apply
    very well to cars. If Newton's third law didn't apply to Lorentz force
    in any significant way, then CERN's particle accelerator would run into >serious trouble.


    Alain Fournier
    are you aware that CERN's particle accelerator violates newton's law?

    High Energy Physics - Phenomenology

    [Submitted on 8 Apr 2018 (v1), last revised 30 May 2018 (this version, v2)]

    Momentum Sum Rule Violation in QCD at High

    Energy Colliders and Confinement

    Gouranga C Nayak

    Momentum sum rule in QCD is widely used at high energy colliders. Although the exact form of the confinement potential energy is not known but the confinement potential energy at large distance r can not rise slower than ln(r). In this paper we find that
    if the confinement potential energy at large distance r rises linearly with r (or faster) then the momentum sum rule in QCD is violated at the high energy colliders if we consider the hadron size as infinite.

    For finite size hadron we find that the momentum sum rule in QCD is violated at the high energy colliders for any form of the confinement potential energy.

    From
    http://www.asps.it/qcdm.docx.htm

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 4 14:18:42 2022
    Il giorno sabato 4 giugno 2022 alle 22:14:22 UTC+2 pnn calmagorod ha scritto:
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 15:53:34 UTC+2 Doctor Who ha scritto:
    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:27:09 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alai...@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On Jun/3/2022 at 00:49, pnn calmagorod wrote :
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ? >>>>>>
    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction. >>>>>
    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

    Newton also new nothing about cars. Yet his third law seems to apply >very well to cars. If Newton's third law didn't apply to Lorentz force >in any significant way, then CERN's particle accelerator would run into >serious trouble.


    Alain Fournier
    are you aware that CERN's particle accelerator violates newton's law?
    High Energy Physics - Phenomenology

    [Submitted on 8 Apr 2018 (v1), last revised 30 May 2018 (this version, v2)]

    Momentum Sum Rule Violation in QCD at High

    Energy Colliders and Confinement

    Gouranga C Nayak

    Momentum sum rule in QCD is widely used at high energy colliders. Although the exact form of the confinement potential energy is not known but the confinement potential energy at large distance r can not rise slower than ln(r). In this paper we find
    that if the confinement potential energy at large distance r rises linearly with r (or faster) then the momentum sum rule in QCD is violated at the high energy colliders if we consider the hadron size as infinite.

    For finite size hadron we find that the momentum sum rule in QCD is violated at the high energy colliders for any form of the confinement potential energy.
    From
    http://www.asps.it/qcdm.docx.htm

    https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.02712

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Doctor Who on Mon Jun 6 16:40:07 2022
    On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 20:28:54 +0200, Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:27:09 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alain245@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On Jun/3/2022 at 00:49, pnn calmagorod wrote :
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto: >>>> On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ? >>>>>>>
    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction. >>>>>>
    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

    Newton also new nothing about cars. Yet his third law seems to apply
    very well to cars. If Newton's third law didn't apply to Lorentz force
    in any significant way, then CERN's particle accelerator would run into >>serious trouble.


    Alain Fournier


    High Energy Physics - Phenomenology

    [Submitted on 8 Apr 2018 (v1), last revised 30 May 2018 (this version,
    v2)]



    Momentum Sum Rule Violation in QCD at High

    Energy Colliders and Confinement



    Gouranga C Nayak

    Momentum sum rule in QCD is widely used at high energy colliders.
    Although the exact form of the confinement potential energy is not
    known but the confinement potential energy at large distance r can not
    rise slower than ln(r). In this paper we find that if the confinement >potential energy at large distance r rises linearly with r (or faster)
    then the momentum sum rule in QCD is violated at the high energy
    colliders if we consider the hadron size as infinite.

    For finite size hadron we find that the momentum sum rule in QCD is
    violated at the high energy colliders for any form of the confinement >potential energy.

    Comments:


    2 New Sections, 13 pages latex

    Subjects:


    HHigh Energy Physics - Phenomenology (hep-ph); High Energy Physics -
    Lattice (hep-lat); Nuclear Theory (nucl-th)

    Cite as:


    arXiv:1804.02712 [hep-ph]



    I see that in the end you fell silent, maybe you begin to understand
    that pnn is not a joke.

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 6 08:46:01 2022
    Il giorno lunedì 6 giugno 2022 alle 17:42:29 UTC+2 pnn calmagorod ha scritto:
    Il giorno lunedì 6 giugno 2022 alle 16:40:11 UTC+2 Doctor Who ha scritto:
    On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 20:28:54 +0200, Doctor Who <d...@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:27:09 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alai...@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On Jun/3/2022 at 00:49, pnn calmagorod wrote :
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ?

    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction.

    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

    Newton also new nothing about cars. Yet his third law seems to apply >>very well to cars. If Newton's third law didn't apply to Lorentz force >>in any significant way, then CERN's particle accelerator would run into >>serious trouble.


    Alain Fournier


    High Energy Physics - Phenomenology

    [Submitted on 8 Apr 2018 (v1), last revised 30 May 2018 (this version, >v2)]



    Momentum Sum Rule Violation in QCD at High

    Energy Colliders and Confinement



    Gouranga C Nayak

    Momentum sum rule in QCD is widely used at high energy colliders. >Although the exact form of the confinement potential energy is not
    known but the confinement potential energy at large distance r can not >rise slower than ln(r). In this paper we find that if the confinement >potential energy at large distance r rises linearly with r (or faster) >then the momentum sum rule in QCD is violated at the high energy >colliders if we consider the hadron size as infinite.

    For finite size hadron we find that the momentum sum rule in QCD is >violated at the high energy colliders for any form of the confinement >potential energy.

    Comments:


    2 New Sections, 13 pages latex

    Subjects:


    HHigh Energy Physics - Phenomenology (hep-ph); High Energy Physics - >Lattice (hep-lat); Nuclear Theory (nucl-th)

    Cite as:


    arXiv:1804.02712 [hep-ph]
    I see that in the end you fell silent, maybe you begin to understand
    that pnn is not a joke.
    sono impegnati a inventare qualche nuova cazzata che sembri verosimile per salvare le comiche trombette ... o Sylvia dalla completa paranoia :-)
    .... ovvero scappare come fanno i saccenti gothalist (Serni, Cesaretti) www.asps.it/gabolas.htm ...
    o in alternativa per riattaccare il solito nastro disperato ....che la pnn non vola :-)
    Del resto i razzi dimostrano che sono stati inventati da hitler : idonei solo per ammazzarsi sulla terra ovvero su distanze corte (guerra in ucraina) .... se allarghi lo scenario fino alla luna o fino a marte puoi solo utilizzarli per giocare con i
    robottini..... controllando i media asserviti .... se no se ne accorgono

    and Rotfl

    pardon

    are busy inventing some new bullshit that seems likely to save the comic trumpets ... or Sylvia from complete paranoia :-)
    .... or rather escape as the knowledgeable gothalists do (Serni, Cesaretti) www.asps.it/gabolas.htm ...
    or alternatively to hang up the usual desperate tape .... that the pnn does not fly :-)
    After all, the rockets show that they were invented by hitler: suitable only for killing themselves on earth or over short distances (war in ukraine) .... if you expand the scenario to the moon or to mars you can only use them to play with robots .....
    controlling the enslaved media .... otherwise they notice it

    and Rotfl

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  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 6 08:42:28 2022
    Il giorno lunedì 6 giugno 2022 alle 16:40:11 UTC+2 Doctor Who ha scritto:
    On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 20:28:54 +0200, Doctor Who <d...@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:27:09 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alai...@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On Jun/3/2022 at 00:49, pnn calmagorod wrote :
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ? >>>>>>>
    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction. >>>>>>
    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

    Newton also new nothing about cars. Yet his third law seems to apply >>very well to cars. If Newton's third law didn't apply to Lorentz force >>in any significant way, then CERN's particle accelerator would run into >>serious trouble.


    Alain Fournier


    High Energy Physics - Phenomenology

    [Submitted on 8 Apr 2018 (v1), last revised 30 May 2018 (this version, >v2)]



    Momentum Sum Rule Violation in QCD at High

    Energy Colliders and Confinement



    Gouranga C Nayak

    Momentum sum rule in QCD is widely used at high energy colliders.
    Although the exact form of the confinement potential energy is not
    known but the confinement potential energy at large distance r can not >rise slower than ln(r). In this paper we find that if the confinement >potential energy at large distance r rises linearly with r (or faster) >then the momentum sum rule in QCD is violated at the high energy
    colliders if we consider the hadron size as infinite.

    For finite size hadron we find that the momentum sum rule in QCD is >violated at the high energy colliders for any form of the confinement >potential energy.

    Comments:


    2 New Sections, 13 pages latex

    Subjects:


    HHigh Energy Physics - Phenomenology (hep-ph); High Energy Physics - >Lattice (hep-lat); Nuclear Theory (nucl-th)

    Cite as:


    arXiv:1804.02712 [hep-ph]
    I see that in the end you fell silent, maybe you begin to understand
    that pnn is not a joke.

    sono impegnati a inventare qualche nuova cazzata che sembri verosimile per salvare le comiche trombette ... o Sylvia dalla completa paranoia :-)
    .... ovvero scappare come fanno i saccenti gothalist (Serni, Cesaretti) www.asps.it/gabolas.htm ...
    o in alternativa per riattaccare il solito nastro disperato ....che la pnn non vola :-)
    Del resto i razzi dimostrano che sono stati inventati da hitler : idonei solo per ammazzarsi sulla terra ovvero su distanze corte (guerra in ucraina) .... se allarghi lo scenario fino alla luna o fino a marte puoi solo utilizzarli per giocare con i
    robottini..... controllando i media asserviti .... se no se ne accorgono

    and Rotfl

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to calmagorod@gmail.com on Mon Jun 6 18:53:03 2022
    On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 08:46:01 -0700 (PDT), pnn calmagorod
    <calmagorod@gmail.com> wrote:

    Il giorno lunedì 6 giugno 2022 alle 17:42:29 UTC+2 pnn calmagorod ha scritto: >> Il giorno lunedì 6 giugno 2022 alle 16:40:11 UTC+2 Doctor Who ha scritto:
    On Fri, 03 Jun 2022 20:28:54 +0200, Doctor Who <d...@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 07:27:09 -0400, Alain Fournier
    <alai...@videotron.ca> wrote:

    On Jun/3/2022 at 00:49, pnn calmagorod wrote :
    Il giorno venerdì 3 giugno 2022 alle 03:07:18 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 03-June-22 3:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 2 giugno 2022 alle 14:05:46 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 02-June-22 1:22 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    Il giorno giovedì 26 maggio 2022 alle 03:09:51 UTC+2 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 26-May-22 7:41 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    https://neolegesmotus.com/2022/05/25/latest-developments-on-subitam-class-thrusters/

    Still looks like a thermal effect to me.

    Sylvia.

    Can you translate this? www.asps.it/falliti.htm …. No i suspect ? >> > >>>>>>>
    Can you reply this

    http://www.asps.it/impnn4.png :-) ? … no i suspect?

    i.e. A simple effect of of Lorentz force applied to an open circuit i.e. violation of action reaction principle
    There is no reason to assume that the Lorentz force has no reaction.

    Sylvia.

    Even if it is out of its mental reach I remind you that the 2 forces of action and reaction are vectors

    and rotfl :-)
    That's gibberish.

    to make them different: they can have the same module but different direction :-)
    If you don't accept this you violate Lorentz force rule in interaction of V shape dipole... moreever Newton know nothing of lorentz force :-)
    So ..... be happy with newton :-)

    Newton also new nothing about cars. Yet his third law seems to apply
    very well to cars. If Newton's third law didn't apply to Lorentz force >> > >>in any significant way, then CERN's particle accelerator would run into >> > >>serious trouble.


    Alain Fournier


    High Energy Physics - Phenomenology

    [Submitted on 8 Apr 2018 (v1), last revised 30 May 2018 (this version,
    v2)]



    Momentum Sum Rule Violation in QCD at High

    Energy Colliders and Confinement



    Gouranga C Nayak

    Momentum sum rule in QCD is widely used at high energy colliders.
    Although the exact form of the confinement potential energy is not
    known but the confinement potential energy at large distance r can not
    rise slower than ln(r). In this paper we find that if the confinement
    potential energy at large distance r rises linearly with r (or faster)
    then the momentum sum rule in QCD is violated at the high energy
    colliders if we consider the hadron size as infinite.

    For finite size hadron we find that the momentum sum rule in QCD is
    violated at the high energy colliders for any form of the confinement
    potential energy.

    Comments:


    2 New Sections, 13 pages latex

    Subjects:


    HHigh Energy Physics - Phenomenology (hep-ph); High Energy Physics -
    Lattice (hep-lat); Nuclear Theory (nucl-th)

    Cite as:


    arXiv:1804.02712 [hep-ph]
    I see that in the end you fell silent, maybe you begin to understand
    that pnn is not a joke.
    sono impegnati a inventare qualche nuova cazzata che sembri verosimile per salvare le comiche trombette ... o Sylvia dalla completa paranoia :-)
    .... ovvero scappare come fanno i saccenti gothalist (Serni, Cesaretti) www.asps.it/gabolas.htm ...
    o in alternativa per riattaccare il solito nastro disperato ....che la pnn non vola :-)
    Del resto i razzi dimostrano che sono stati inventati da hitler : idonei solo per ammazzarsi sulla terra ovvero su distanze corte (guerra in ucraina) .... se allarghi lo scenario fino alla luna o fino a marte puoi solo utilizzarli per giocare con i
    robottini..... controllando i media asserviti .... se no se ne accorgono

    and Rotfl

    pardon

    are busy inventing some new bullshit that seems likely to save the comic trumpets ... or Sylvia from complete paranoia :-)
    .... or rather escape as the knowledgeable gothalists do (Serni, Cesaretti) www.asps.it/gabolas.htm ...
    or alternatively to hang up the usual desperate tape .... that the pnn does not fly :-)
    After all, the rockets show that they were invented by hitler: suitable only for killing themselves on earth or over short distances (war in ukraine) .... if you expand the scenario to the moon or to mars you can only use them to play with robots .....
    controlling the enslaved media .... otherwise they notice it

    and Rotfl






    “Silvia, rimembri ancora quel tempo della tua vita mortale…”

    e lallo

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  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to Doctor Who on Fri Jun 10 19:27:40 2022
    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    I see that in the end you fell silent, maybe you begin to understand
    that pnn is not a joke.

    There's a guy in comp.lang.c that is convinced he's solved the halting
    problem, and keeps spewing messages about it, with lots of x86 assembly
    that he somehow seems to think prove something.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem

    When people don't believe him on his say-so, and don't accept his genius
    over such nincompoops as Alan Turing, he starts insulting them.

    Maybe the two of you could get together?
    --
    /* * * Otto J. Makela <om@iki.fi> * * * * * * * * * */
    /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */
    /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */
    /* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * */

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Fri Jun 10 20:12:15 2022
    On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 19:27:40 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    I see that in the end you fell silent, maybe you begin to understand
    that pnn is not a joke.

    There's a guy in comp.lang.c that is convinced he's solved the halting >problem, and keeps spewing messages about it, with lots of x86 assembly
    that he somehow seems to think prove something.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem

    When people don't believe him on his say-so, and don't accept his genius
    over such nincompoops as Alan Turing, he starts insulting them.

    Maybe the two of you could get together?


    I don't see any insult here.

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Sun Jun 12 14:12:24 2022
    On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 19:27:40 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    I see that in the end you fell silent, maybe you begin to understand
    that pnn is not a joke.

    There's a guy in comp.lang.c that is convinced he's solved the halting >problem, and keeps spewing messages about it, with lots of x86 assembly
    that he somehow seems to think prove something.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem

    When people don't believe him on his say-so, and don't accept his genius
    over such nincompoops as Alan Turing, he starts insulting them.

    Maybe the two of you could get together?


    why your parents called you Otto and not Nove ???????

    e lallo

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  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to Doctor Who on Wed Jun 15 15:53:04 2022
    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 19:27:40 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
    There's a guy in comp.lang.c that is convinced he's solved the
    halting problem, and keeps spewing messages about it, with lots of
    x86 assembly that he somehow seems to think prove something.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem

    When people don't believe him on his say-so, and don't accept his
    genius over such nincompoops as Alan Turing, he starts insulting them.

    Maybe the two of you could get together?

    I don't see any insult here.

    That's strange, have you checked your eyesight?

    Someone using the same pseudo-email address in their headers as you has
    (even fairly recently) been making claims about other writer's olfactory properties, their mental acuity, and chosen professions, in ways many
    people would indubitably consider insulting:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:21:56 +0200:

    you just smell like poo!

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:30:23 +0200:

    you just smell like poo!

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:33:30 +0200:

    you just smell like poo!

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:01:42 +0200:

    responding like an idiot is an even greater indication of insanity.

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Thu, 07 Apr 2022 19:24:18 +0200:

    just like you

    you smell like poo

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Thu, 02 Jun 2022 14:27:39 +0200:

    LOL, you are a good clown.

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Wed Jun 15 15:31:13 2022
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:53:04 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 19:27:40 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
    There's a guy in comp.lang.c that is convinced he's solved the
    halting problem, and keeps spewing messages about it, with lots of
    x86 assembly that he somehow seems to think prove something.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem

    When people don't believe him on his say-so, and don't accept his
    genius over such nincompoops as Alan Turing, he starts insulting them.

    Maybe the two of you could get together?

    I don't see any insult here.

    That's strange, have you checked your eyesight?

    Someone using the same pseudo-email address in their headers as you has
    (even fairly recently) been making claims about other writer's olfactory >properties, their mental acuity, and chosen professions, in ways many
    people would indubitably consider insulting:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:21:56 +0200:

    you just smell like poo!

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:30:23 +0200:

    you just smell like poo!

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:33:30 +0200:

    you just smell like poo!

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:01:42 +0200:

    responding like an idiot is an even greater indication of insanity.

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Thu, 07 Apr 2022 19:24:18 +0200:

    just like you

    you smell like poo

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Thu, 02 Jun 2022 14:27:39 +0200:

    LOL, you are a good clown.


    what a prickly man !

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Tue Jun 21 11:53:10 2022
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:53:04 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 19:27:40 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
    There's a guy in comp.lang.c that is convinced he's solved the
    halting problem, and keeps spewing messages about it, with lots of
    x86 assembly that he somehow seems to think prove something.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem

    When people don't believe him on his say-so, and don't accept his
    genius over such nincompoops as Alan Turing, he starts insulting them.

    Maybe the two of you could get together?

    I don't see any insult here.

    That's strange, have you checked your eyesight?

    Someone using the same pseudo-email address in their headers as you has
    (even fairly recently) been making claims about other writer's olfactory >properties, their mental acuity, and chosen professions, in ways many
    people would indubitably consider insulting:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Tue, 29 Mar 2022 11:21:56 +0200:

    you just smell like poo!

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:30:23 +0200:

    you just smell like poo!

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:33:30 +0200:

    you just smell like poo!

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Wed, 30 Mar 2022 10:01:42 +0200:

    responding like an idiot is an even greater indication of insanity.

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Thu, 07 Apr 2022 19:24:18 +0200:

    just like you

    you smell like poo

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote Thu, 02 Jun 2022 14:27:39 +0200:

    LOL, you are a good clown.


    you would have to introspect to understand that you have vilified and denigrated the PNN, so you deserve only insults.

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  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to Doctor Who on Mon Jul 4 18:12:40 2022
    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    you would have to introspect to understand that you have vilified and denigrated the PNN, so you deserve only insults.

    My only requests here have been for more information on the supposed
    patent(s) of the process, and suspicion that they do not exist as no
    such information has been offered.

    Refusal to accept any kind of criticism but immediately resorting to
    attempted personal attacks makes one sound just like a cultist who is
    deadly afraid of their wobbly little faith structure falling apart.
    This most definitely is not the reaction of a stable researcher with
    certainty of correctness of their findings and firm documentation.

    https://medium.com/@zelphontheshelf/10-signs-youre-probably-in-a-cult-1921eb5a3857
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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Mon Jul 4 17:35:10 2022
    On Mon, 04 Jul 2022 18:12:40 +0300, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    you would have to introspect to understand that you have vilified and
    denigrated the PNN, so you deserve only insults.

    My only requests here have been for more information on the supposed >patent(s) of the process, and suspicion that they do not exist as no
    such information has been offered.

    Refusal to accept any kind of criticism but immediately resorting to >attempted personal attacks makes one sound just like a cultist who is
    deadly afraid of their wobbly little faith structure falling apart.
    This most definitely is not the reaction of a stable researcher with >certainty of correctness of their findings and firm documentation.

    https://medium.com/@zelphontheshelf/10-signs-youre-probably-in-a-cult-1921eb5a3857


    blah blah blah

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