• Starship for Starlink

    From JF Mezei@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 20 18:18:19 2022
    Out of curiosity, ins't Starship/Superheavy way over sized to launch
    Starlink ? is there value in launching a gazillion Starlink satellites
    in the same orbital plane?


    It was often argued that the Shuttle had a lot of "dead" weight at
    launch (wings, crew cabin etc( abd still needed to acceleratre mass of
    its SSMEs engines to orbital speeds.

    If Musk only fills Starship's tanks halfway since more fuel not needed
    to laujch a bunch of Starlink satellites, isn't there still a lot of
    dead weight in this steel glorified grain silo with lots of engines on it?

    Or is this recognized as a truly inefficient launch, but due to re-use,
    ends up beimg better in long term compared to Falcon 9 that is more
    efficient but discards 2nd stage every time?

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  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 21 00:38:34 2022
    Sunday, JF Mezei quipped:

    Out of curiosity, ins't Starship/Superheavy way over sized to launch
    Starlink ? is there value in launching a gazillion Starlink satellites
    in the same orbital plane?

    240.

    It was often argued that the Shuttle had a lot of "dead" weight at
    launch (wings, crew cabin etc( abd still needed to acceleratre mass of
    its SSMEs engines to orbital speeds.

    If Musk only fills Starship's tanks halfway since more fuel not needed
    to laujch a bunch of Starlink satellites, isn't there still a lot of
    dead weight in this steel glorified grain silo with lots of engines on it?

    Dead weight where? The booster is almost all fuel. The flaps on
    Starship have a penalty, but much smaller than the wings on the Space
    Shuttle, and there aren't compromises for cross-range capability (that
    ended up never used anyway).


    Or is this recognized as a truly inefficient launch, but due to re-use,
    ends up beimg better in long term compared to Falcon 9 that is more
    efficient but discards 2nd stage every time?

    Price out 6 to 7 Falcon 9 launches vs 1 Starship launch. Then compare
    to an Atlas launch.

    BTW, the usual question is why isn't Falcon Heavy used for Starlink?
    The answer seems to be that it's still stuck with the Falcon 9
    fairings, so it can carry more weight or throw it farther, but it can't
    carry more bulk.

    /dps

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