• Sparship Update

    From JF Mezei@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 13 19:29:49 2022
    Since nobody mentioned it.

    1:20 (static intro screen is about 3 minutes before show starts)


    https://youtu.be/3N7L8Xhkzqo


    Falcon9: 144 succesful launches.
    106 succesful landings
    83 launches with "flight proven" rockets.


    (would be interesting to get similar stats for the last year or two to
    exclude the period prior to landings being expected/commonplace).


    Q/A at end has a few tidbits. One reason for icreasing engines on
    Starship is to give it Thrust/Weight ration above 1 at time of takeoff
    so it can act as a ejection form the booster. (aka: realizes need for
    some sort of crew escape mechanism).


    Off shore rigs: at the launch rate they want, nobody would accept to
    have rockets launch from land every hour.

    No discussion on how they plan to test landing at "stage 0", but
    jokingly alluded that if it doesn't work, they'll look into something else.

    he does seem intent to be able to turn a booster around in an hour (so
    that would require it land at launch tower). They are designing the piping/punps to be able to refuel booster in 30 minute (or coiuld have
    been 454, not sure I remember correctly.

    His original luxury liner to mars is no going to be a cramped spaceship
    on long flight ordeal. At the end when asked about interior design, says
    that is still far into horizon, but that there are msss limitations.
    ECLSS for moon and 1-2 weeks will be scaled up Dragon, but for long
    duration will have to be closed cycle.

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  • From Niklas Holsti@21:1/5 to JF Mezei on Mon Feb 14 10:47:14 2022
    On 2022-02-14 2:29, JF Mezei wrote:

    [comments on Elon Musk's recent Starship update]


    His original luxury liner to mars is no[w] going to be a cramped
    spaceship on long flight ordeal.

    Eventually I expect there will be first class, second class, and
    "steerage" passages. These will probably be in different Starships,
    because there is not room/mass enough to have, for example, different
    classes of kitchens and dining facilities in the same ship, as is done
    on ordinary ships for sea travel. And it could irritate the lower-class passengers a lot if they were forbidden from mingling with the
    upper-class passengers -- mingling can be forbidden on commercial
    airliners, where people can be kept seated for a few hours, but hardly
    during a non-stop passage lasting several months.

    First-class, roomy Starship passages may be combined with and motivated
    by very dense cargo that has plenty of mass but little volume, and that
    cannot easily be divided into smaller pieces for separate transport.

    And some gigadollar people may have their own private Starships with
    gilded faucets... or maybe the multi-month one-way and even longer round
    trips would too boring for them.

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