What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! 😊than the spare wheel left! 😊
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg 😊
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon 😊
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote:than the spare wheel left! ?
What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markleyless than the spare wheel left! ?
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote:
What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:17:16 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:less than the spare wheel left! ?
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote:
What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have
it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.
So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markleyless than the spare wheel left! ?
<damarkley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:17:16 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote: >>>>> What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have
it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.
So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?
from SP-100 type reactors.
ON Jan/11/2023 at 08:11, Doctor Who wrote :less than the spare wheel left! ?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<damarkley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:17:16 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote: >>>>>> What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg >>>>>> And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit? >>>> it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?
from SP-100 type reactors.
SP-100 type reactors weigh somewhere between hundreds of kg to tons. I >haven't seen demonstrations of your prototype giving more than a few >milliNewtons of thrust. So you seem to be a several orders of magnitude >short.
You would need to demonstrate your device producing several kN of
thrust. You don't need a SP-100 type reactor to do that. You could use >electricity from a wire plugged into the wall. Note that even several kN
of thrust would not be enough to get you to orbit, because you don't
have only the SP-100 reactor to lift, you need to lift stuff for
guidance, communications, a payload etc.
You would also need to show that your device will still be working in
the absence of an atmosphere, which seems to many of us quite unlikely >because we think that your thrust is produced by thermal effects in the >atmosphere.
Alain Fournier
ON Jan/11/2023 at 08:11, Doctor Who wrote :less than the spare wheel left! ?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<damarkley@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:17:16 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote: >>>>>> What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg >>>>>> And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit? >>>> it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?
from SP-100 type reactors.
SP-100 type reactors weigh somewhere between hundreds of kg to tons. I >haven't seen demonstrations of your prototype giving more than a few >milliNewtons of thrust. So you seem to be a several orders of magnitude >short.
You would need to demonstrate your device producing several kN of
thrust. You don't need a SP-100 type reactor to do that. You could use >electricity from a wire plugged into the wall. Note that even several kN
of thrust would not be enough to get you to orbit, because you don't
have only the SP-100 reactor to lift, you need to lift stuff for
guidance, communications, a payload etc.
You would also need to show that your device will still be working in
the absence of an atmosphere, which seems to many of us quite unlikely >because we think that your thrust is produced by thermal effects in the >atmosphere.
Alain Fournier
You would also need to show that your device will still be working in
the absence of an atmosphere, which seems to many of us quite unlikely >because we think that your thrust is produced by thermal effects in the >atmosphere.
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markleyless than the spare wheel left! ?
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:17:16 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote: >> >> What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit? >> it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?from SP-100 type reactors.
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 8:11:49 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:have less than the spare wheel left! ?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:17:16 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote: >> >> >> What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you
from SP-100 type reactors.when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit? >> >> it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?
The SP-100 reactor program never advanced to flight hardware and was terminated in 1994. So, you are going to use a never developed power source to get your drive into orbit?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:23 -0800 (PST), Dean Markleyhave less than the spare wheel left! ?
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 8:11:49 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:17:16 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote:
What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg >> >> >> And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you
from SP-100 type reactors.it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all. >> >> when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?
So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?
The SP-100 reactor program never advanced to flight hardware and was terminated in 1994. So, you are going to use a never developed power source to get your drive into orbit?You are Wrong, its current name is Kilopower.
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:56:38 PM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:have less than the spare wheel left! ?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:23 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 8:11:49 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:17:16 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote:
What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg >> >> >> >> And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you
You are Wrong, its current name is Kilopower.from SP-100 type reactors.it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all. >> >> >> when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?
So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?
The SP-100 reactor program never advanced to flight hardware and was terminated in 1994. So, you are going to use a never developed power source to get your drive into orbit?
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower
Yes, sure. That's intended to provide SURFACE power for the moon. Once again, how will you boost your drive into orbit? "Fart" power?
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:56:38 PM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:have less than the spare wheel left! ?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:23 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 8:11:49 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:17:16 AM UTC-5, Doctor Who wrote: >> >> On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley
<dama...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 12:57:26 PM UTC-5, pnn calmagorod wrote:
What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you
from SP-100 type reactors.it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all. >> >> when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?
So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?
The SP-100 reactor program never advanced to flight hardware and was terminated in 1994. So, you are going to use a never developed power source to get your drive into orbit?You are Wrong, its current name is Kilopower.
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopowerYes, sure. That's intended to provide SURFACE power for the moon. Once again, how will you boost your drive into orbit? "Fart" power?
no one prohibits to use Kilopower for mission power !
Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
no one prohibits to use Kilopower for mission power !
So, your plan is to use a fission reactor to get out of the atmosphere? >Sounds even less safe than burning lots of hydrogen and oxygen.
Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
no one prohibits to use Kilopower for mission power !
So, your plan is to use a fission reactor to get out of the atmosphere? Sounds even less safe than burning lots of hydrogen and oxygen.
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