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  • Switch to PNN to save Hubble telescope

    From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 29 13:47:35 2022
    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to pnn calmagorod on Fri Dec 30 09:20:40 2022
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster

    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 29 20:44:27 2022
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 10:01:41 2022
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:20:40 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster

    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    What a troll !

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 02:09:18 2022
    pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE
    EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse

    Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
    well.

    /dps

    --
    And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
    they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
    Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 04:09:34 2022
    Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
    pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE >>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse
    Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
    well.

    /dps

    --
    And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
    they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
    Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com


    explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the astronauts here
    https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/ .... but "probably" space x

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 19:20:41 2022
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:20:40 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster

    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    prove it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 15:26:17 2022
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.


    jes Sylvia Rotfl ....We are selling UAP/UFO without your and NASA permission 😊
    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 19:06:03 2022
    pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
    Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
    pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha
    scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE >>>>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse
    Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
    well.

    /dps

    --
    And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
    they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
    Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com


    explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the astronauts here https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
    .... but "probably" space x

    No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't
    seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be
    greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz
    or Dragon capsules to the rescue.

    /dps

    --
    Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
    future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
    virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
    Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 10:20:13 2022
    On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:20:40 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster

    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    Even after the patent publication your donkey's head remains a
    donkey's head.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 03:38:42 2022
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 04:06:16 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
    pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
    Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
    pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha >>> scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE >>>>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse
    Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
    well.

    /dps

    --
    And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
    they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
    Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com


    explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the astronauts here https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
    .... but "probably" space x
    No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't
    seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz
    or Dragon capsules to the rescue.

    /dps

    --
    Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
    future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
    Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013

    it is impossible to communicate with you. I have said several times that violating the principle of action and reaction also changes the second principle of dynamics in a way that I never imagined. Thrust increases over time for the same UHF power
    supplied. As I have seen this for years in different experimental situations I now think it is true. Keep believing in missiles and you'll never colonize anything

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to Doctor Who on Sat Dec 31 14:16:33 2022
    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    prove it.

    Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
    not everyone else to disapprove them.
    --
    /* * * Otto J. Makela <om@iki.fi> * * * * * * * * * */
    /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */
    /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */
    /* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * */

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Sat Dec 31 13:19:39 2022
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    prove it.

    Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
    not everyone else to disapprove them.

    ah, you said there was no patent application, we have proven that you
    are a troll.

    And, we have proven our PNN Theory with a working prototype.

    Happy New Year

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 13:21:26 2022
    pnn calmagorod asserted that:
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 04:06:16 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
    pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
    Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto: >>>> pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha >>>>> scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE >>>>>>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse
    Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
    well.

    /dps

    --
    And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
    they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. -- >>>> Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com


    explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the
    astronauts here
    https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
    .... but "probably" space x
    No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't
    seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be
    greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz
    or Dragon capsules to the rescue.

    /dps

    --
    Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
    future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
    virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
    Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013

    it is impossible to communicate with you. I have said several times that violating the principle of action and reaction also changes the second principle of dynamics in a way that I never imagined. Thrust increases over time for the same UHF power supplied. As I have seen this for years in different experimental situations I now think it is true. Keep believing in missiles and you'll never colonize anything

    I am waiting to see your launch vehicle.

    /dps

    --
    "Maintaining a really good conspiracy requires far more intelligent application, by a large number of people, than the world can readily
    supply."

    Sam Plusnet

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From pnn calmagorod@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 31 14:09:08 2022
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 22:21:31 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
    pnn calmagorod asserted that:
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 04:06:16 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
    pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
    Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
    pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha >>>>> scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE
    EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse >>>> Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended >>>> well.

    /dps

    --
    And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought >>>> they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. -- >>>> Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com


    explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the
    astronauts here
    https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
    .... but "probably" space x
    No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't
    seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be >> greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz
    or Dragon capsules to the rescue.

    /dps

    --
    Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
    future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
    virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
    Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013

    it is impossible to communicate with you. I have said several times that violating the principle of action and reaction also changes the second principle of dynamics in a way that I never imagined. Thrust increases over
    time for the same UHF power supplied. As I have seen this for years in different experimental situations I now think it is true. Keep believing in
    missiles and you'll never colonize anything
    I am waiting to see your launch vehicle.

    /dps

    do you have a 10 Kw kilopower for rent?

    E.Laureti


    --
    "Maintaining a really good conspiracy requires far more intelligent application, by a large number of people, than the world can readily supply."

    Sam Plusnet

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Sun Jan 1 19:51:30 2023
    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    prove it.

    Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
    not everyone else to disapprove them.

    she made the claim that we haven't a working prototype, prove it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Snidely@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 2 00:35:34 2023
    Saturday, pnn calmagorod observed:
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 22:21:31 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
    pnn calmagorod asserted that:
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 04:06:16 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto: >>>> pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
    Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha
    scritto:
    pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha >>>>>>> scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE >>>>>>>>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse >>>>>> Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended >>>>>> well.

    /dps

    --
    And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought >>>>>> they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. -- >>>>>> Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com


    explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the
    astronauts here
    https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
    .... but "probably" space x
    No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't
    seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be >>>> greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz >>>> or Dragon capsules to the rescue.

    /dps

    --
    Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
    future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
    virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
    Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013

    it is impossible to communicate with you. I have said several times that >>> violating the principle of action and reaction also changes the second
    principle of dynamics in a way that I never imagined. Thrust increases over >>> time for the same UHF power supplied. As I have seen this for years in
    different experimental situations I now think it is true. Keep believing in >>> missiles and you'll never colonize anything
    I am waiting to see your launch vehicle.

    /dps

    do you have a 10 Kw kilopower for rent?

    E.Laureti


    Not for your thrust to weight needs.

    /dps

    --
    I have always been glad we weren't killed that night. I do not know
    any particular reason, but I have always been glad.
    _Roughing It_, Mark Twain

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 2 09:41:48 2023
    On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 00:35:34 -0800, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Saturday, pnn calmagorod observed:
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 22:21:31 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto: >>> pnn calmagorod asserted that:
    Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 04:06:16 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto: >>>>> pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
    Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha
    scritto:
    pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
    Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha >>>>>>>> scritto:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:

    ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE
    EMISSION OF REACTION MASS

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1

    https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/


    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

    Sylvia.

    With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse >>>>>>> Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended >>>>>>> well.

    /dps

    --
    And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought >>>>>>> they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. -- >>>>>>> Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com


    explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the >>>>>> astronauts here
    https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
    .... but "probably" space x
    No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't >>>>> seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be >>>>> greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz >>>>> or Dragon capsules to the rescue.

    /dps

    --
    Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
    future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
    virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
    Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013

    it is impossible to communicate with you. I have said several times that >>>> violating the principle of action and reaction also changes the second >>>> principle of dynamics in a way that I never imagined. Thrust increases over
    time for the same UHF power supplied. As I have seen this for years in >>>> different experimental situations I now think it is true. Keep believing in
    missiles and you'll never colonize anything
    I am waiting to see your launch vehicle.

    /dps

    do you have a 10 Kw kilopower for rent?

    E.Laureti


    Not for your thrust to weight needs.

    /dps

    so shut up!

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  • From Otto J. Makela@21:1/5 to Doctor Who on Tue Jan 3 09:18:26 2023
    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
    prove it.
    Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
    not everyone else to disapprove them.

    she made the claim that we haven't a working prototype, prove it.

    She disputed your claim that you have an operative device — what you
    have is a prototype which shows some promise in laboratory conditions.

    As I said earlier, this is the step where NASA reviewed the Robert
    Shawyer EmDrive, and for a moment even thought it worked. Unfortunately
    it was afterwards pretty conclusively shown that the "thrust" produced
    was a thermal effect, as the suspicion is also in this case.
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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Tue Jan 3 10:24:04 2023
    On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 09:18:26 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
    prove it.
    Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
    not everyone else to disapprove them.

    she made the claim that we haven't a working prototype, prove it.

    She disputed your claim that you have an operative device — what you
    have is a prototype which shows some promise in laboratory conditions.

    As I said earlier, this is the step where NASA reviewed the Robert
    Shawyer EmDrive, and for a moment even thought it worked. Unfortunately
    it was afterwards pretty conclusively shown that the "thrust" produced
    was a thermal effect, as the suspicion is also in this case.

    such suspicions arise in the mind who don't know physics well.

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  • From Doctor Who@21:1/5 to Otto J. Makela on Tue Jan 3 10:23:03 2023
    On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 09:18:26 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

    On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
    Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
    We have an operative PNN thruster
    No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
    prove it.
    Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
    not everyone else to disapprove them.

    she made the claim that we haven't a working prototype, prove it.

    She disputed your claim that you have an operative device — what you
    have is a prototype which shows some promise in laboratory conditions.

    As I said earlier, this is the step where NASA reviewed the Robert
    Shawyer EmDrive, and for a moment even thought it worked. Unfortunately
    it was afterwards pretty conclusively shown that the "thrust" produced
    was a thermal effect, as the suspicion is also in this case.

    bla bla bla

    you know where you can put your "suspicions".

    washing the donkey's head is a waste of time, water and soap!

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