• Cargo launch by Space X

    From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 17 09:24:19 2018
    OK I will say what probably everyone is thinking right now.
    I do hope he is not sending the ISS an electric sports car as well.
    Hides behind sofa.

    Brian

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  • From Jeff Findley@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 17 07:37:52 2018
    In article <p68sc8$1if$1@news.albasani.net>, briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
    says...

    OK I will say what probably everyone is thinking right now.
    I do hope he is not sending the ISS an electric sports car as well.
    Hides behind sofa.

    Very funny.

    If NASA had given him a payload, any payload, to launch, we wouldn't be
    having this conversation about the stupid car versus a hunk of concrete
    or other mass simulator.

    http://thehill.com/opinion/technology/372994-spacex-could-save-nasa-and- the-future-of-space-exploration#.WnzajuIgpEw.twitter

    https://www.geekwire.com/2018/nasa-pass-spacex-falcon-heavy-garver/

    I'd trust Lori Garver on this issue. She was Deputy Administrator of
    NASA. I'm sure NASA management immediately passed on the offer (with no official paper trail) due to the politics of "heavy lift", SLS, and
    Congress.

    Falcon Heavy is a clear threat to SLS. Orbital assembly will be needed
    for Mars missions anyway. No hardware has been designed yet, so which
    launcher it flies on doesn't really matter either. Also, launching bits
    in slightly smaller chunks 2x or even 3x more often on Falcon Heavy will
    still be much cheaper than launching on SLS.

    Jeff
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  • From Brian-Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 17 21:21:03 2018
    Yes I know, and was wondering about the politics of all this.
    Brian

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    "Jeff Findley" <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> wrote in message news:MPG.34f1ec2ae6f7f478989a3d@news.eternal-september.org...
    In article <p68sc8$1if$1@news.albasani.net>, briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
    says...

    OK I will say what probably everyone is thinking right now.
    I do hope he is not sending the ISS an electric sports car as well.
    Hides behind sofa.

    Very funny.

    If NASA had given him a payload, any payload, to launch, we wouldn't be having this conversation about the stupid car versus a hunk of concrete
    or other mass simulator.

    http://thehill.com/opinion/technology/372994-spacex-could-save-nasa-and- the-future-of-space-exploration#.WnzajuIgpEw.twitter

    https://www.geekwire.com/2018/nasa-pass-spacex-falcon-heavy-garver/

    I'd trust Lori Garver on this issue. She was Deputy Administrator of
    NASA. I'm sure NASA management immediately passed on the offer (with no official paper trail) due to the politics of "heavy lift", SLS, and
    Congress.

    Falcon Heavy is a clear threat to SLS. Orbital assembly will be needed
    for Mars missions anyway. No hardware has been designed yet, so which launcher it flies on doesn't really matter either. Also, launching bits
    in slightly smaller chunks 2x or even 3x more often on Falcon Heavy will still be much cheaper than launching on SLS.

    Jeff
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  • From William Elliot@21:1/5 to Jeff Findley on Sat Feb 17 19:38:58 2018
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Jeff Findley wrote:

    OK I will say what probably everyone is thinking right now.
    I do hope he is not sending the ISS an electric sports car as well.
    Hides behind sofa.

    It's great advertising. When it returns to Earth, it will be a
    collector's item. If they've just thrown the car away, it's a
    stupid stunt ruining the company's reputation.

    Very funny.

    If NASA had given him a payload, any payload, to launch, we wouldn't be having this conversation about the stupid car versus a hunk of concrete
    or other mass simulator.

    http://thehill.com/opinion/technology/372994-spacex-could-save-nasa-and- the-future-of-space-exploration#.WnzajuIgpEw.twitter

    https://www.geekwire.com/2018/nasa-pass-spacex-falcon-heavy-garver/

    I'd trust Lori Garver on this issue. She was Deputy Administrator of
    NASA. I'm sure NASA management immediately passed on the offer (with no official paper trail) due to the politics of "heavy lift", SLS, and
    Congress.

    Falcon Heavy is a clear threat to SLS. Orbital assembly will be
    needed for Mars missions anyway. No hardware has been designed yet,
    so which launcher it flies on doesn't really matter either. Also,
    launching bits in slightly smaller chunks 2x or even 3x more often
    on Falcon Heavy will still be much cheaper than launching on SLS.


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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 18 08:38:48 2018
    The thing is though, Maybe he has his own agenda, and joining a long winded Nasa funded way of doing business won't get him where he wants to go, so to speak.
    Brian

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    "William Elliot" <marsh@panix.com> wrote in message news:Pine.NEB.4.64.1802171935130.19486@panix5.panix.com...
    On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Jeff Findley wrote:

    OK I will say what probably everyone is thinking right now.
    I do hope he is not sending the ISS an electric sports car as well.
    Hides behind sofa.

    It's great advertising. When it returns to Earth, it will be a
    collector's item. If they've just thrown the car away, it's a
    stupid stunt ruining the company's reputation.

    Very funny.

    If NASA had given him a payload, any payload, to launch, we wouldn't be
    having this conversation about the stupid car versus a hunk of concrete
    or other mass simulator.

    http://thehill.com/opinion/technology/372994-spacex-could-save-nasa-and-
    the-future-of-space-exploration#.WnzajuIgpEw.twitter

    https://www.geekwire.com/2018/nasa-pass-spacex-falcon-heavy-garver/

    I'd trust Lori Garver on this issue. She was Deputy Administrator of
    NASA. I'm sure NASA management immediately passed on the offer (with no
    official paper trail) due to the politics of "heavy lift", SLS, and
    Congress.

    Falcon Heavy is a clear threat to SLS. Orbital assembly will be
    needed for Mars missions anyway. No hardware has been designed yet,
    so which launcher it flies on doesn't really matter either. Also,
    launching bits in slightly smaller chunks 2x or even 3x more often
    on Falcon Heavy will still be much cheaper than launching on SLS.


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  • From Jeff Findley@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 20 06:26:37 2018
    In article <p6be2o$9s4$1@news.albasani.net>, briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
    says...

    The thing is though, Maybe he has his own agenda, and joining a long winded Nasa funded way of doing business won't get him where he wants to go, so to speak.

    Possibly. But if BFR/BFS is successful, NASA will almost certainly be a
    major customer. SpaceX may provide the transportation system, but I'm
    betting we'll see the first footprints on Mars made possible by
    public/private partnerships instead of the cost plus type arrangements
    which were used for Apollo/Saturn.

    Jeff
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