• matchmaing ability challenge

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 2 04:54:12 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 2 04:56:29 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On May 2, 2021, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.263E8B1C00522D157000024B938F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    Obviously that subject line should have read
    “matchmaking ability challenge”.
    Hogwasher newsreader does not flag spelling mistakes
    in the subject line.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Mon May 3 14:18:48 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.


    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
    not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Mon May 3 04:37:33 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
    not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.

    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Mon May 3 17:53:44 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
    not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 3 08:13:01 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On Mon, 3 May 2021 17:53:44 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
    wrote:
    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining
    whether or
    not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.



    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.


    Do you even understand the meaning of
    "statistically significant"?


    Sylvia.



    I don't believe in statistics and neither should
    anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
    fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.

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  • From one@21:1/5 to Ted on Mon May 3 07:15:58 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    Ted wrote:
    Sylvia wrote:

    Do you even understand the meaning of
    "statistically significant"?

    One wonders what the word, statistics, means
    at times when its meaning changes in mid-
    thinking of a thought-stream.

    I don't believe in statistics and neither should
    anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
    fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.

    No mention of David's 10,000?
    No 40 years, 40 days? No generations from
    Adam to when Jesus was a number of nights and
    the daze before emerging from death?

    - hm6of1

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 3 09:20:26 2021
    On Mon, 03 May 2021 08:13:01 -0400, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by Ted <tedsmasher@gmail.com>:

    <snip>

    I don't believe in statistics and neither should
    anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
    fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.

    Perhaps you should take a stats course so you'd understand
    what you're rejecting.

    Just curious...does the Bible mention computers, aircraft or
    nuclear weapons? Perhaps you disbelieve in them, too,
    especially since much of their function is based on
    statistics?

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to one on Mon May 3 12:48:22 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On Mon, 03 May 2021 07:15:58 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    Sylvia wrote:


    Do you even understand the meaning of
    "statistically significant"?


    One wonders what the word, statistics, means
    at times when its meaning changes in mid-
    thinking of a thought-stream.


    I don't believe in statistics and neither should
    anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
    fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.


    No mention of David's 10,000?
    No 40 years, 40 days? No generations from
    Adam to when Jesus was a number of nights and
    the daze before emerging from death?


    You seem lacking in spiritual insight.
    Certainly God gave us numbers to count with
    and it's something we should thank him for,
    but he never intended for them to be put to
    perverted use.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Tue May 4 00:02:52 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didn’t and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Tue May 4 12:48:41 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On 04-May-21 12:32 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or >>>> not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didn’t and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)


    100 would be significant.

    But what makes you think you can do this? Have you been able to do such
    a test?

    Sylvia.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 4 00:25:39 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On May 2, 2021, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.263E8B1C00522D157000024B938F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group)

    As part of the sudden magickal evolution the following
    should now be true as well:

    1. some abusive relationships have been split across
    species boundaries

    2. the remaining abusive relationships have been made
    optimally sexually compatible

    3. non-abusive incompatible relationships which have
    resulted in at least one child under 16, including
    adoptive or fetus, have been made optimally
    sexually compatible, except when each has at
    least one same sex partner, when they have been
    made bim--bif (which is partly compatible, or
    less than optimally compatible and less likely
    to stick),

    4. 92% of formerly partially compatible relationships
    involving at least one assisted shaktipat recipient
    have been made optimally compatible; the remaining
    8% have been broken up since there is no longer
    partial compatibility for assisted shaktipat recipients.

    All that means that 3% of humans globally have had
    their sexual harmonic(s), the combination of
    spiritual gender(s) and sexual orientation(s)
    (the plural is for multi-spirit individuals) adjusted.
    You can check that if you know a (formerly?)
    platonic gay--lesbian couple who have a child
    under 16 by seeing if they are now compatible.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Tue May 4 00:41:44 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On May 4, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <ifbr09Fj152U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 04-May-21 12:32 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
    not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didn’t and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)

    100 would be significant.

    But what makes you think you can do this?

    I think the matchmaking ability is the primary or principal
    siddhi (special ability) that I have as an avatar type,
    and I have also tried to grant it to over a million
    assisted shaktipat recipients globally, including
    some regulars on alt.atheism, though perhaps
    I have not succeeded in that yet.

    But anyway, at least my intuition in checking
    known cases proves correct.

    Have you been able to do such
    a test?

    Not yet, since it is hard to set up by myself, which is why I
    have asked on these and other groups for others
    to test me. And it would be hard for me to contact
    celebrities such as Christian Slater who I have
    identified the sexual harmonics of, and those who
    I have suggested matches for, such as
    Sting and Mary Black, and Lyle Lovett and Gillian Welch
    and Joni MItchell and Tom Waits, and others.

    But speaking of Christian Slater, during a fake matchmaking
    period of probably 1997, someone named CSGal
    contacted me and asked me to match Christian
    Slater and four women just from names (which
    I couldn’t do even now) and I got them entirely
    wrong, but then recently intuited that Christian
    is transgender lesbian, as is Justin Trudeau.
    As a test they should be attractive to lesbians
    in their species (and would have been to all
    lesbians before the species split).
    And I now think that CSGal was Christian (but
    the email address no longer works. I think
    I might have to over time correct all the past
    fake matches I did, including those four women.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Bob Casanova on Tue May 4 00:57:46 2021
    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 4 00:48:23 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On May 4, 2021, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2640EF2B00CFA3617000077D238F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    4. 92% of formerly partially compatible relationships
    involving at least one assisted shaktipat recipient
    have been made optimally compatible; the remaining
    8% have been broken up since there is no longer
    partial compatibility for assisted shaktipat recipients.

    There should be between a million and two million
    assisted shaktipat recipients globally, and they
    should all now have the matchmaking ability,
    unless the assisted shaktipat has not occurred
    yet.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 4 01:15:08 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On May 4, 2021, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2640F2F000D0857F7000077D238F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    But anyway, at least my intuition in checking
    known cases proves correct.

    Although in the case of Canadian comedian Rick Mercer,
    I have intuited that he is bim and compatible e.g. with
    (also funny) Canadian singer/songwriter Jann Arden,
    who is straight-type-2 (which I sometimes call
    fourth orientation). However I am pretty sure he
    has been living a gay lifestyle. But someone who
    is bisexual (attracted to both genders) can be
    bisexual, straight, gay/lesbian, or celibate by
    lifestyle choice. However I am not about to call
    bisexuals who are straight by lifestyle choice
    straight-type-3, and they should admit their
    attraction to both genders if they want the best
    match of the opposite gender, which would be
    straight-type-2.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 3 20:47:10 2021
    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.

    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 3 20:49:53 2021
    On Tue, 4 May 2021 12:48:41 +1000, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>:

    On 04-May-21 12:32 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I cant do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or >>>>> not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I havent checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didnt and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)


    100 would be significant.

    But what makes you think you can do this? Have you been able to do such
    a test?

    And let's not forget that his opinion regarding the
    orientation of others, even if it agrees with their personal
    beliefs, is at best not-very-good evidence of anything,
    since objective evidence is lacking.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 3 20:51:35 2021
    On Mon, 03 May 2021 12:48:22 -0400, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by Ted <tedsmasher@gmail.com>:

    On Mon, 03 May 2021 07:15:58 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    Sylvia wrote:


    Do you even understand the meaning of
    "statistically significant"?


    One wonders what the word, statistics, means
    at times when its meaning changes in mid-
    thinking of a thought-stream.


    I don't believe in statistics and neither should
    anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
    fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.


    No mention of David's 10,000?
    No 40 years, 40 days? No generations from
    Adam to when Jesus was a number of nights and
    the daze before emerging from death?


    You seem lacking in spiritual insight.
    Certainly God gave us numbers to count with
    and it's something we should thank him for,
    but he never intended for them to be put to
    perverted use.

    And He told you this? Amazing...

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 4 01:34:08 2021
    On May 4, 2021, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.2640FE7000D337857000077D238F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<fvg19ghg2rs2mccekhp1or9f80o1sa2huu@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 4 May 2021 12:48:41 +1000, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by Sylvia Else<sylvia@email.invalid>:

    On 04-May-21 12:32 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
    not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didn’t and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)

    100 would be significant.

    But what makes you think you can do this? Have you been able to do such
    a test?
    And let's not forget that his opinion regarding the
    orientation of others, even if it agrees with their personal
    beliefs, is at best not-very-good evidence of anything,
    since objective evidence is lacking.

    What would you take as objective evidence? Perhaps
    measurements of arousal indicators such as genital
    temperature and blood flow when someone is exposed
    to pictures or people of different genders? (In my
    case, since I am straight-type-2, which I sometimes
    call fourth orientation, I would be aroused only by
    pictures of bisexual women.)

    Though again, those bisexual women (women who are
    attracted to both genders) could be bisexual, straight,
    lsbian, or celibate by lifestyle choice but I would still
    class them as bisexual by natural orientation (based
    on attraction). And lesbians (women who are
    attracted just to women) who perversely choose
    to have sex with men are not bisexual.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Bob Casanova on Tue May 4 01:30:48 2021
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<fvg19ghg2rs2mccekhp1or9f80o1sa2huu@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 4 May 2021 12:48:41 +1000, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by Sylvia Else<sylvia@email.invalid>:

    On 04-May-21 12:32 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
    not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didn’t and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)

    100 would be significant.

    But what makes you think you can do this? Have you been able to do such
    a test?
    And let's not forget that his opinion regarding the
    orientation of others, even if it agrees with their personal
    beliefs, is at best not-very-good evidence of anything,
    since objective evidence is lacking.

    What would you take as objective evidence? Perhaps
    measurements of arousal indicators such as genital
    temperature and blood flow when someone is exposed
    to pictures or people of different genders? (In my
    case, since I am straight-type-2, which I sometimes
    call fourth orientation, I would be aroused only by
    pictures of bisexual women.)

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Bob Casanova on Tue May 4 02:09:01 2021
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
    including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to Bob Casanova on Tue May 4 14:45:29 2021
    On 04-May-21 1:49 pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Tue, 4 May 2021 12:48:41 +1000, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>:

    On 04-May-21 12:32 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or >>>>>> not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didn’t and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)


    100 would be significant.

    But what makes you think you can do this? Have you been able to do such
    a test?

    And let's not forget that his opinion regarding the
    orientation of others, even if it agrees with their personal
    beliefs, is at best not-very-good evidence of anything,
    since objective evidence is lacking.


    If he could reliably anticipate what the others would say about their orientation, that would be something, though in testing, one would have
    to be careful to exclude other, non-psychic, ways that he could do that.

    Of course, I doubt he has the ability. He hasn't done a proper test on
    himself, so has no rational basis for his belief. He's probably just delusional, and we've certainly seen that here before.

    Sylvia.

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Tue May 4 03:55:35 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism

    On May 4, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <ifc1rbFk912U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 04-May-21 1:49 pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Tue, 4 May 2021 12:48:41 +1000, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by Sylvia Else<sylvia@email.invalid>:

    On 04-May-21 12:32 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
    not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didn’t and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)

    100 would be significant.

    But what makes you think you can do this? Have you been able to do such
    a test?
    And let's not forget that his opinion regarding the
    orientation of others, even if it agrees with their personal
    beliefs, is at best not-very-good evidence of anything,
    since objective evidence is lacking.

    If he could reliably anticipate what the others would say about their orientation, that would be something, though in testing, one would have
    to be careful to exclude other, non-psychic, ways that he could do that.

    Of course, I doubt he has the ability. He hasn't done a proper test on himself, so has no rational basis for his belief. He's probably just delusional, and we've certainly seen that here before.

    Sylvia.

    It is very hard for me to do a test on myself. Do you
    expect me to start walking up to strangers in bars
    (which is unlikely given the pandemic) and ask
    them if their sexual harmonic(s) is or are what
    I think it or they are? I’m not about to do that,
    which is why I have asked people on Usenet
    to test me. But I guess you don’t know even
    a short list of pictures of people who I could
    try my ability on.

    I have just posted a summary of some of the
    possible matches I intuited in March of 2019 and
    recently to alt.gossip.celebrities , which is
    probably where CSGal saw my writing back
    in the late 1990s.

    I guess if my ability lasts, which it didn’t in
    March of 2019, I could advertise my services
    as a matchmaker, charging those who can
    afford it and offering it free to others. Then
    over time proof would come in the form of
    successful optimally compatible matches,
    with mutually strong orgasms that do not
    fade much over time, and relationships
    that last for life, and an advantage in terms
    of lifespan over partially compatible relationships,
    celibates, and especially over incompatible
    relationships.

    Good night

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From one@21:1/5 to Ted on Tue May 4 03:34:13 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On Mon, 03 May 2021 12:48:22 -0400, Ted <tedsmasher@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 03 May 2021 07:15:58 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    Sylvia wrote:


    Do you even understand the meaning of
    "statistically significant"?


    One wonders what the word, statistics, means
    at times when its meaning changes in mid-
    thinking of a thought-stream.


    I don't believe in statistics and neither should
    anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
    fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.


    No mention of David's 10,000?
    No 40 years, 40 days? No generations from
    Adam to when Jesus was a number of nights and
    the daze before emerging from death?


    You seem lacking in spiritual insight.
    Certainly God gave us numbers to count with
    and it's something we should thank him for,
    but he never intended for them to be put to
    perverted use.

    Does a five sigma mean anything to you?

    What are the odds that the children of Abraham
    would number half of Earth's population?

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 4 08:55:27 2021
    On Tue, 04 May 2021 01:30:48 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<fvg19ghg2rs2mccekhp1or9f80o1sa2huu@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 4 May 2021 12:48:41 +1000, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by Sylvia Else<sylvia@email.invalid>:

    On 04-May-21 12:32 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of >> > > > > > > those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum >> > > > > > > click divination, and I cant do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
    not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I havent checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didnt and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)

    100 would be significant.

    But what makes you think you can do this? Have you been able to do such
    a test?
    And let's not forget that his opinion regarding the
    orientation of others, even if it agrees with their personal
    beliefs, is at best not-very-good evidence of anything,
    since objective evidence is lacking.

    What would you take as objective evidence?

    Not my job to find evidence for you. Post something you
    believe to be *actual*evidence and maybe we can discuss
    it.But personal statements aren't objective evidence.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to one on Tue May 4 11:23:34 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 03:34:13 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    On Mon, 03 May 2021 12:48:22 -0400, Ted <tedsmasher@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Mon, 03 May 2021 07:15:58 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    Sylvia wrote:


    Do you even understand the meaning of
    "statistically significant"?


    One wonders what the word, statistics, means
    at times when its meaning changes in mid-
    thinking of a thought-stream.


    I don't believe in statistics and neither should
    anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
    fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.


    No mention of David's 10,000?
    No 40 years, 40 days? No generations from
    Adam to when Jesus was a number of nights and
    the daze before emerging from death?


    You seem lacking in spiritual insight.
    Certainly God gave us numbers to count with
    and it's something we should thank him for,
    but he never intended for them to be put to
    perverted use.


    Does a five sigma mean anything to you?


    Yes, it's an example of the Marxist influence
    in our math curricula.

    What are the odds that the children of Abraham
    would number half of Earth's population?


    God promised him as many as the stars in
    the sky. If you'd like, I can share a video
    explaining the background of that promise.

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 4 08:48:46 2021
    On Tue, 4 May 2021 14:45:29 +1000, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>:

    On 04-May-21 1:49 pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Tue, 4 May 2021 12:48:41 +1000, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>:

    On 04-May-21 12:32 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9og9F6jb3U1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 03-May-21 5:07 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
    (in article <if9bt8F47vlU1@mid.individual.net>):

    On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of >>>>>>>> those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum >>>>>>>> click divination, and I cant do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    or from memory

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or >>>>>>> not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

    Sylvia.

    Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
    would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
    bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
    (many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
    also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
    are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
    of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
    who are compatible only with bisexual of the
    opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
    attracted to both genders, not necessarily
    having sex with both genders.


    For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
    is transgender lesbian, and you could test
    that by asking him if he is.

    I havent checked all groups for followups and
    possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
    (Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
    cases you could just test me with yourself.

    Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

    Sylvia.

    Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
    who all knew their sexual orientations and
    spiritual genders and I didnt and I got all
    100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
    and even several separate accurate IDs
    of individuals should be significant.)


    100 would be significant.

    But what makes you think you can do this? Have you been able to do such
    a test?

    And let's not forget that his opinion regarding the
    orientation of others, even if it agrees with their personal
    beliefs, is at best not-very-good evidence of anything,
    since objective evidence is lacking.


    If he could reliably anticipate what the others would say about their >orientation, that would be something, though in testing, one would have
    to be careful to exclude other, non-psychic, ways that he could do that.

    Since he considers that what people say about themselves,
    with no corroborating evidence, to be inherently valid and
    sufficient (elsethread: "What would you take as objective
    evidence?", with the implication that asking for objective
    evidence is unreasonable), I guess he'll have to agree that
    I'm the reincarnation of Gilgamesh, with all his attributes.
    After all, if I say it, it must be true. I believe he has a
    future in politics...

    Of course, I doubt he has the ability. He hasn't done a proper test on >himself, so has no rational basis for his belief. He's probably just >delusional, and we've certainly seen that here before.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From George Black@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Wed May 5 07:58:48 2021
    On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
    including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?

    Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 5 00:59:26 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    I won’t reply to followups since last night just yet but
    might later tonight.

    The assisted shaktipat is in progress and (P) delivery
    and matchmaking should now be on for recipients,
    including some readers of these groups. Thus there
    should be now between a million and two million humans
    globally with matchmaking ability, not just me, which
    is good since I can’t cover everyone, and I have
    only a limited number of possible matches to draw
    on, and that is weighted towards celebrities and
    locals and others in my circle of contacts.

    Last night I posted “celebrity matches” to
    alt.gossip.celebrities with a summary of some of
    the matches I have intuited in March 2019 and
    recently. The latest two are

    Bill Gates and June Tabor

    and

    Melinda Gates and Ronnie Wood

    I discussed the second match in more details on
    alt.rock-n-roll.stones, including the possibility of
    a bridged V threesome of
    Ronnie -- Melinda -- Ronnie’s lesbian wife.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From one@21:1/5 to Ted on Wed May 5 04:39:21 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    Ted wrote:
    one wondered:

    Does a five sigma mean anything to you?


    Yes, it's an example of the Marxist influence
    in our math curricula.

    Interesting, what words mean to people.

    What are the odds that the children of Abraham
    would number half of Earth's population?


    God promised him as many as the stars in
    the sky. If you'd like, I can share a video
    explaining the background of that promise.

    Okay.

    Sounds like a plan made before the world was made
    without whom nothing was made that was made.

    In the mean-while, on average, one wonders
    how long does it take God to keep a promise.

    At times, prehaps 400 years.
    At times, an it may be only 3 nights.

    One time a saying was said how heaven and earth
    will pass away before some words would.

    - statistically speaking, rhetorically, hyperbolically ...

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  • From Unbreakable Disease@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Wed May 5 21:32:00 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On 02.05.2021 07:24, David Dalton wrote:
    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    Holy s**t, with current issues on LGBT people, soc.motss should make a comeback. Even though more people identify as LGBT than ever before, the newsgroup is literally almost dead.

    We should definitely start adapting Usenet to the modern web- and
    mobile-based world.

    We have SquirrelMail, that will be a nice base for our web-based Usenet
    reader. Why we should write the code from the beginning when we can
    reuse the existing?

    Same with mobile apps. Instead of writing new code, we can reuse
    existing code, and if it's unsuitable for them, then we can change it or rewrite using the old one as reference how to get the job done.

    Luckily we are making some progress, like a Matrix protocol. This
    protocol is what IRC should be. This is really nothing new, it's just
    realizing that old tech sometimes does better than modern stuff.

    If we find way to make so-called "fediverse" handle billion spammer
    idiots, then we can apply the same to Usenet and connect it to the
    fediverse. It already has enough dumb people and we, programmers, aren't keeping up with them.

    --
    Tip me: bc1qtwmjzywve5v7z6jzk4dkg7v6masw2erpahsn9f

    bitcoin:bc1qtwmjzywve5v7z6jzk4dkg7v6masw2erpahsn9f

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to George Black on Thu May 6 19:31:17 2021
    On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
    (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9nZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):

    On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
    including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?
    Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

    Ha, good one.

    If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
    of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
    and personality-wise) compatible match for him
    or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 6 15:39:48 2021
    On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
    (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9nZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):

    On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    Ive been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
    including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?
    Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

    Ha, good one.

    If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
    of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
    and personality-wise) compatible match for him
    or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).

    So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
    assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
    involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
    testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
    demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
    any more than a really good ability to read personalities
    and convince the subjects that you are correct?

    Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
    telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
    can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
    cannot, at least as far as I can see.

    *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
    exist, BTW.
    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Bob Casanova on Thu May 6 21:33:51 2021
    On May 6, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<kjr89gpvpaoe57j3c1rqurgjmdhe03jm0g@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
    (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9nZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):

    On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
    including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?
    Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

    Ha, good one.

    If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
    of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
    and personality-wise) compatible match for him
    or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).
    So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
    assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
    involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
    testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
    demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
    any more than a really good ability to read personalities
    and convince the subjects that you are correct?

    Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
    telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
    can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
    cannot, at least as far as I can see.

    *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
    exist, BTW.

    Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
    of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
    I identified all of their orientations correctly,
    that would be some evidence.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 6 23:02:57 2021
    On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:33:51 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 6, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<kjr89gpvpaoe57j3c1rqurgjmdhe03jm0g@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
    (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9nZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):

    On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    Ive been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
    including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?
    Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

    Ha, good one.

    If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
    of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
    and personality-wise) compatible match for him
    or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).
    So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
    assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
    involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
    testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
    demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
    any more than a really good ability to read personalities
    and convince the subjects that you are correct?

    Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
    telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
    can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
    cannot, at least as far as I can see.

    *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
    exist, BTW.

    Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
    of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
    I identified all of their orientations correctly,
    that would be some evidence.

    But of what? Once again, how do you demonstrate to an
    objective observer that your "talent" is any more than a
    really good ability to read personalities and pick up on
    subtle clues?

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Bob Casanova on Fri May 7 03:51:29 2021
    On May 7, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<hsl99gte24kjb82ctql4jbnd23idicod01@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:33:51 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 6, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<kjr89gpvpaoe57j3c1rqurgjmdhe03jm0g@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
    (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9nZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):

    On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination, including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?
    Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

    Ha, good one.

    If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
    of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
    and personality-wise) compatible match for him
    or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).
    So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
    assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
    involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
    testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
    demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
    any more than a really good ability to read personalities
    and convince the subjects that you are correct?

    Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
    telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
    can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
    cannot, at least as far as I can see.

    *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
    exist, BTW.

    Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
    of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
    I identified all of their orientations correctly,
    that would be some evidence.
    But of what? Once again, how do you demonstrate to an
    objective observer that your "talent" is any more than a
    really good ability to read personalities and pick up on
    subtle clues?

    From pictures, particularly if they were non-stereotypical
    and randomly ordered? I doubt that anyone with no
    special ability could do that. And my ability does not
    really draw on a picture but a sort of “glint” that I
    sense around the picture.

    The assisted shaktipat had not occurred but is now
    in progress and thus within an hour or two there
    should be over a million globally who will also
    have the matchmaking ability, possibly including you,
    Bob, and definitely if you had read at least 8000
    words of my writing as of early April 7.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 7 05:03:34 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On May 2, 2021, David Dalton wrote
    (in article<0001HW.263E8B1C00522D157000024B938F@news.eternal-september.org>):

    I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
    to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
    with differences being that I can distinguish between
    species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
    55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
    time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
    those who already have an optimally compatible match.
    Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
    in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
    click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
    in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

    So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
    a number of pictures available on the Internet or
    emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
    harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
    cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
    multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
    theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
    subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    As part of the assisted shaktipat, which is now in progress,
    over a million globally should now have been granted
    the matchmaking ability. For a descriptive list of recipients
    see the Recent Changes/Working Notes subpage
    of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
    create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 7 09:42:55 2021
    On Fri, 07 May 2021 03:51:29 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 7, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<hsl99gte24kjb82ctql4jbnd23idicod01@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:33:51 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 6, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<kjr89gpvpaoe57j3c1rqurgjmdhe03jm0g@4ax.com>):

    On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
    (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9nZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):

    On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so >> > > > > > > > > please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    Ive been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
    including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?
    Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

    Ha, good one.

    If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
    of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
    and personality-wise) compatible match for him
    or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).
    So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
    assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
    involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
    testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
    demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
    any more than a really good ability to read personalities
    and convince the subjects that you are correct?

    Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
    telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
    can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
    cannot, at least as far as I can see.

    *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
    exist, BTW.

    Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
    of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
    I identified all of their orientations correctly,
    that would be some evidence.
    But of what? Once again, how do you demonstrate to an
    objective observer that your "talent" is any more than a
    really good ability to read personalities and pick up on
    subtle clues?

    From pictures, particularly if they were non-stereotypical
    and randomly ordered? I doubt that anyone with no
    special ability could do that. And my ability does not
    really draw on a picture but a sort of glint that I
    sense around the picture.

    The assisted shaktipat had not occurred but is now
    in progress and thus within an hour or two there
    should be over a million globally who will also
    have the matchmaking ability, possibly including you,
    Bob, and definitely if you had read at least 8000
    words of my writing as of early April 7.

    No, thanks, and bye. Have fun.

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From George Black@21:1/5 to David Dalton on Sat May 8 08:02:00 2021
    On 7/05/21 12:03 pm, David Dalton wrote:

    Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
    of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
    I identified all of their orientations correctly,
    that would be some evidence.

    Look up James Randi...
    And there are many such able to disprove your claims

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  • From George Black@21:1/5 to Bob Casanova on Sat May 8 08:00:10 2021
    On 7/05/21 10:39 am, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
    (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9nZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):

    On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
    including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?
    Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

    Ha, good one.

    If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
    of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
    and personality-wise) compatible match for him
    or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).

    So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
    assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
    involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
    testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
    demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
    any more than a really good ability to read personalities
    and convince the subjects that you are correct?

    Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
    telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
    can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
    cannot, at least as far as I can see.

    *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
    exist, BTW.

    Remember Earl Gordon Curley?
    I think this one is pretty much out there

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 7 19:21:16 2021
    On Sat, 8 May 2021 08:02:00 +1200, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by George Black <gblack@hnpl.net>:

    On 7/05/21 12:03 pm, David Dalton wrote:

    Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
    of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
    I identified all of their orientations correctly,
    that would be some evidence.

    Look up James Randi...
    And there are many such able to disprove your claims

    Randi set up actual objective and repeatable tests; the
    problem is finding an objective test for these claims.
    Apparently he thinks what he proposed is objective. I weep
    for the current generation...

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From R Kym Horsell@21:1/5 to George Black on Sat May 8 02:40:35 2021
    George Black <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
    On 7/05/21 12:03 pm, David Dalton wrote:

    Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
    of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
    I identified all of their orientations correctly,
    that would be some evidence.

    Look up James Randi...
    And there are many such able to disprove your claims

    Any evidence for that? LOL.

    A few years back I was contracted to write a program that could
    tell whether 2 people were "compatible". It was meant to be a phone ap.

    Turned out is was "easily" doable using machine learning.
    I tinkered up a "facelib" using open source s/w that could
    take 1000s of facial measurements from color photos, fee that into
    a neural network and decide whether they would ever date.

    Trained on a large sample (10+) of hollychook head shots knowing
    who had dated who over the years and who had married who and for how
    long and how far back.

    At least on the validation part of the tuning -- where you
    feed your program photos it had not be tuned on to write the s/w --
    it was getting 60-70% "this person will like that person well enough to
    go on >=3 dates" and NOT x.

    So not any great surprise that people seeking compatible people might
    look for certain regularity or irregularity of features in the face
    of potential dates and anyone else might know wnough to be able to
    guess the answers way better than randomly.

    So the threat is not unambiguously about any ESP but certainly
    can be an intuitive-level skill that some people pick up better than others.

    --
    <kaggle.com/kymhorsell1>

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 7 19:18:31 2021
    On Sat, 8 May 2021 08:00:10 +1200, the following appeared in
    sci.skeptic, posted by George Black <gblack@hnpl.net>:

    On 7/05/21 10:39 am, Bob Casanova wrote:
    On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
    (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9nZ2dnUU7-YGdnZ2d@giganews.com>):

    On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
    On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhrsceat33pfc6nfo83g@4ax.com>):

    On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
    in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dalton@nfld.com>:

    On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
    (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds859aeqio7ol74v5jn@4ax.com>):

    Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
    claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
    please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

    I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
    divination ability.
    You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
    free to reject them. HAND.

    Ive been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
    including dowsing, has always been relevant
    on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
    of divination.

    How do you define paranormal ability?
    Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

    Ha, good one.

    If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
    of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
    and personality-wise) compatible match for him
    or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).

    So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
    assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
    involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
    testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
    demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
    any more than a really good ability to read personalities
    and convince the subjects that you are correct?

    Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
    telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
    can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
    cannot, at least as far as I can see.

    *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
    exist, BTW.

    Remember Earl Gordon Curley?

    *Oh* yeah. "Man as Old as Coal!!!" Oy...

    I think this one is pretty much out there

    Remember Riley G, the Psychic Defective...er... Detective?
    Another one with zero objective evidence.

    So many loons, so little time...

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From Bob Casanova@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 7 20:51:58 2021
    On Sat, 8 May 2021 02:40:35 +0000 (UTC), the following
    appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by R Kym Horsell
    <kym@kymhorsell.com>:

    George Black <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
    On 7/05/21 12:03 pm, David Dalton wrote:

    Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
    of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
    I identified all of their orientations correctly,
    that would be some evidence.

    Look up James Randi...
    And there are many such able to disprove your claims

    Any evidence for that? LOL.

    A few years back I was contracted to write a program that could
    tell whether 2 people were "compatible". It was meant to be a phone ap.

    Turned out is was "easily" doable using machine learning.
    I tinkered up a "facelib" using open source s/w that could
    take 1000s of facial measurements from color photos, fee that into
    a neural network and decide whether they would ever date.

    Trained on a large sample (10+) of hollychook head shots knowing
    who had dated who over the years and who had married who and for how
    long and how far back.

    At least on the validation part of the tuning -- where you
    feed your program photos it had not be tuned on to write the s/w --
    it was getting 60-70% "this person will like that person well enough to
    go on >=3 dates" and NOT x.

    So not any great surprise that people seeking compatible people might
    look for certain regularity or irregularity of features in the face
    of potential dates and anyone else might know wnough to be able to
    guess the answers way better than randomly.

    So the threat is not unambiguously about any ESP but certainly
    can be an intuitive-level skill that some people pick up better than others.

    ...which was exactly the point I made to the OP earlier.
    From that post:
    "...how do you demonstrate to an objective observer that
    your 'talent' is any more than a really good ability to read
    personalities and pick up on subtle clues?"
    He ignored that as a possibility; it had to be
    "paranormal".

    --

    Bob C.

    "The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
    the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
    'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

    - Isaac Asimov

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  • From R Kym Horsell@21:1/5 to Bob Casanova on Sat May 8 06:51:10 2021
    Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> wrote:
    On Sat, 8 May 2021 02:40:35 +0000 (UTC), the following
    appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by R Kym Horsell
    <kym@kymhorsell.com>:

    George Black <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
    On 7/05/21 12:03 pm, David Dalton wrote:

    Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
    of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
    I identified all of their orientations correctly,
    that would be some evidence.

    Look up James Randi...
    And there are many such able to disprove your claims

    Any evidence for that? LOL.

    A few years back I was contracted to write a program that could
    tell whether 2 people were "compatible". It was meant to be a phone ap.

    Turned out is was "easily" doable using machine learning.
    I tinkered up a "facelib" using open source s/w that could
    take 1000s of facial measurements from color photos, fee that into
    a neural network and decide whether they would ever date.

    Trained on a large sample (10+) of hollychook head shots knowing
    who had dated who over the years and who had married who and for how
    long and how far back.

    At least on the validation part of the tuning -- where you
    feed your program photos it had not be tuned on to write the s/w --
    it was getting 60-70% "this person will like that person well enough to
    go on >=3 dates" and NOT x.

    So not any great surprise that people seeking compatible people might
    look for certain regularity or irregularity of features in the face
    of potential dates and anyone else might know wnough to be able to
    guess the answers way better than randomly.

    So the threat is not unambiguously about any ESP but certainly
    can be an intuitive-level skill that some people pick up better than others. >>
    ...which was exactly the point I made to the OP earlier.
    From that post:
    "...how do you demonstrate to an objective observer that
    your 'talent' is any more than a really good ability to read
    personalities and pick up on subtle clues?"
    He ignored that as a possibility; it had to be
    "paranormal".
    ...

    It's all a matter of timing.

    At one point determining someone's personality well enough
    to predict their sexual patners from the bumps on their face
    would have been considered "paranormal".

    The oriignal brief for my project was to determine facial types
    according to Chinese medical beliefs and the compatibilities
    according to their generations-old rules.

    Turned out that method turned out to be almost as good as learning
    how to match the various bumps and facial (a-)symmetricies directly.

    If the universe is governed by chaotic math it should come as no
    surprise that one part of it "looks like" another part of it
    much like zooming in on that old Mandelbrot picture keeps seeing
    similar things over and over at various scales in various places.

    Fractal similarity seems to predict how science can make predictions
    from data and be fairly sure at leat some of it will come to pass.

    After some more recent work on predictive modeling for various events
    including earthquakes and mass animal deaths it seems the patterns there
    are predicted better than chance by the positions of the planets --
    a concept once considered next to magic. :)

    --
    Discovering The 5 Personality Types - Which one are you?
    The five personality types according to Chinese medicine is a fascinating
    tool to understand a persons nature ... Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, Water.
    -- orientalmed.ac.uk, 6 Sept 2018

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to one on Sat May 29 20:49:51 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
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    On Wed, 05 May 2021 04:39:21 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    one wondered:


    Does a five sigma mean anything to you?


    Yes, it's an example of the Marxist influence
    in our math curricula.


    Interesting, what words mean to people.


    What are the odds that the children of Abraham
    would number half of Earth's population?


    God promised him as many as the stars in
    the sky. If you'd like, I can share a video
    explaining the background of that promise.


    Okay.


    Sounds like a plan made before the world was made
    without whom nothing was made that was made.


    In the mean-while, on average, one wonders
    how long does it take God to keep a promise.


    At times, prehaps 400 years.
    At times, an it may be only 3 nights.


    One time a saying was said how heaven and earth
    will pass away before some words would.


    - statistically speaking, rhetorically,
    hyperbolically ...


    Jesus said that. You believe in Jesus, don't you?

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  • From one@21:1/5 to Ted on Sun May 30 04:35:36 2021
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    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On Sat, 29 May 2021 20:49:51 -0400, Ted <sam.street@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 05 May 2021 04:39:21 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    one wondered:


    Does a five sigma mean anything to you?


    Yes, it's an example of the Marxist influence
    in our math curricula.


    Interesting, what words mean to people.


    What are the odds that the children of Abraham
    would number half of Earth's population?


    God promised him as many as the stars in
    the sky. If you'd like, I can share a video
    explaining the background of that promise.


    Okay.


    Sounds like a plan made before the world was made
    without whom nothing was made that was made.


    In the mean-while, on average, one wonders
    how long does it take God to keep a promise.


    At times, prehaps 400 years.
    At times, an it may be only 3 nights.


    One time a saying was said how heaven and earth
    will pass away before some words would.


    - statistically speaking, rhetorically,
    hyperbolically ...


    Jesus said that. You believe in Jesus, don't you?

    I'm not sure what you mean
    when you say, in Jesus,
    or what: to believe in Jesus, means.

    I can believe words can be found in Matthew 24:35.

    The previous verse says: Verily I say unto you,
    This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    The same words are found in Luke, Chapter 21, verses 32-33.

    What does, quote, this generation, unquote mean?
    Was Jesus speaking to his own disciples as being, that generation?

    What does it mean to say, heaven and earth will pass away?
    Can the saying have to do with a transcending of sorts?

    Was Jesus talking about the destruction of the Temple?

    - opinions vary ... Thanks!

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  • From one@21:1/5 to one on Sun May 30 06:24:46 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    one wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    one wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    one wondered:

    Does a five sigma mean anything to you?

    Yes, it's an example of the Marxist influence
    in our math curricula.

    Interesting, what words mean to people.

    What are the odds that the children of Abraham
    would number half of Earth's population?

    God promised him as many as the stars in
    the sky. If you'd like, I can share a video
    explaining the background of that promise.

    Okay.

    So, where's the video of the promised promise?

    What happens when the background changes
    and a figure of speech occurs, such as this?

    Does Brahman have a personified nature?
    Are all Atma the children of Being?

    When the image of God is reflected in essence
    When the breath of Life was breathed in
    When a breath is breathed out
    What was created is then recreated

    Sounds like a plan made before the world was made
    without whom nothing was made that was made.

    Recreational porpoises may surf waves when at play.

    In the mean-while, on average, one wonders
    how long does it take God to keep a promise.

    At times, prehaps 400 years.
    At times, an it may be only 3 nights.

    One time a saying was said how heaven and earth
    will pass away before some words would.

    - statistically speaking, rhetorically,
    hyperbolically ...

    Jesus said that. You believe in Jesus, don't you?

    I'm not sure what you mean
    when you say, in Jesus,
    or what: to believe in Jesus, means.

    Ted might mean, do you believe Jesus was/is the Messiah?

    An axis-mundi in other words, which, as time goes shows
    how the CE or AD begins at a point of origin, grid-wise.
    BCE or BC means, before when a point was which
    signifies, prehaps a five sigma.

    I can believe words can be found in Matthew 24:35.

    The previous verse says: Verily I say unto you,
    This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    The same words are found in Luke, Chapter 21, verses 32-33.

    What does, quote, this generation, unquote mean?
    Was Jesus speaking to his own disciples as being, that generation?

    What does it mean to say, heaven and earth will pass away?
    Can the saying have to do with a transcending of sorts?

    Was Jesus talking about the destruction of the Temple?

    - opinions vary ... Thanks!

    Aye. For example, the name that names.
    Is the name that is a name always, the Name?

    Siddhartha was said to have spoken of Amitabha Buddha.
    Guatama Buddha, mythologically may have pointed to a name.

    Is there a name upon which, when named, saves?
    If so, when that name is named, is it the same name?

    - kinda has a Ring to wit ... Cheers!

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to one on Wed Jun 2 16:16:39 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On Sun, 30 May 2021 04:35:36 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    On Sat, 29 May 2021 20:49:51 -0400, Ted <sam.street@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wed, 05 May 2021 04:39:21 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    one wondered:


    Does a five sigma mean anything to you?


    Yes, it's an example of the Marxist influence
    in our math curricula.


    Interesting, what words mean to people.


    What are the odds that the children of Abraham
    would number half of Earth's population?


    God promised him as many as the stars in
    the sky. If you'd like, I can share a video
    explaining the background of that promise.


    Okay.


    Sounds like a plan made before the world was made
    without whom nothing was made that was made.


    In the mean-while, on average, one wonders
    how long does it take God to keep a promise.


    At times, prehaps 400 years.
    At times, an it may be only 3 nights.


    One time a saying was said how heaven and earth
    will pass away before some words would.


    - statistically speaking, rhetorically,
    hyperbolically ...


    Jesus said that. You believe in Jesus, don't you?


    I'm not sure what you mean
    when you say, in Jesus,
    or what: to believe in Jesus, means.


    I can believe words can be found in Matthew 24:35.


    The previous verse says: Verily I say unto you,
    This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.


    The same words are found in Luke, Chapter 21, verses 32-33.


    What does, quote, this generation, unquote mean?
    Was Jesus speaking to his own disciples as being, that generation?


    What does it mean to say, heaven and earth will pass away?
    Can the saying have to do with a
    transcending of sorts?


    Was Jesus talking about the destruction of
    the Temple?


    - opinions vary ... Thanks!


    Bart Ehrman wrote a couple of books on the
    historical Jesus. I recommend those, if
    you're interested.

    Yes, he believed God's Kingdom would soon
    be established. There were many of that
    opinion in Palestine at the time. Ehrman
    calls them apocalypticists.

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  • From one@21:1/5 to Ted on Thu Jun 3 05:31:33 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    Ted wrote:

    Bart Ehrman wrote a couple of books on the
    historical Jesus. I recommend those, if
    you're interested.

    Seems likely to me a man existed who was
    deified by his followers which defied
    the culture in which he lived at the time.

    Yes, he believed God's Kingdom would soon
    be established. There were many of that
    opinion in Palestine at the time. Ehrman
    calls them apocalypticists.

    So-called, super-natural events, paranormal,
    unable to be replicated by science, may occur.

    It's possible David, who started this thread, might
    have experienced various mystical types of them.

    - paradigms vary ...

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to one on Thu Jun 3 18:58:34 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 05:31:33 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:
    Ted wrote:


    Bart Ehrman wrote a couple of books on the
    historical Jesus. I recommend those, if
    you're interested.


    Seems likely to me a man existed who was
    deified by his followers which defied
    the culture in which he lived at the time.


    Yes, he believed God's Kingdom would soon
    be established. There were many of that
    opinion in Palestine at the time. Ehrman
    calls them apocalypticists.


    So-called, super-natural events, paranormal,
    unable to be replicated by science, may occur.


    It's possible David, who started this thread, might
    have experienced various mystical types of
    them.


    - paradigms vary ...


    True. About twenty years ago, I was taken up
    into the Third Heaven and shown visions of
    the future. As sort of a side effect of that, I
    guess, is why I too now sometimes have
    supernormal experiences and abilities.

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  • From one@21:1/5 to Ted on Fri Jun 4 04:58:03 2021
    XPost: alt.atheism, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism
    XPost: soc.motss, alt.transgendered

    Ted wrote:
    one wrote:

    So-called, super-natural events, paranormal,
    unable to be replicated by science, may occur.

    When a skeptic, agnostic, atheist or scientist
    experiences an odd phenomenon, material/physical
    reasons, causes, factors are sought to map the event.

    To presume a reason exists or reasons, plural, exist
    might go without saying, naturally as one carves
    what was a proverbial Uncarved Block (UB).

    It's possible David, who started this thread, might
    have experienced various mystical types of them.

    Cause-effect could be taken for granted, axiomatically.

    - paradigms vary ...

    True. About twenty years ago, I was taken up
    into the Third Heaven and shown visions of
    the future. As sort of a side effect of that, I
    guess, is why I too now sometimes have
    supernormal experiences and abilities.

    One may wonder, what if Bart Ehrman were
    to experience a so-called, miracle. Would he believe
    a deity of some sort was involved or would he instead
    seek a more scientific explanation.

    Reminds me of when Michael Shermer was
    about to get married, and then a miracle occurred.

    Having had supernormal experiences and abilities
    sometimes, some people extrapolate from that
    and assume they are more than simply normal.

    David appears to me to be delusional.
    As, what he calls, an avatar-type, he'd like
    to change the world and in his own Way, he does.

    Being his own self, doing what he does, changes
    the world from being what it was to as it is
    now and then he begins again.

    - time after time ...

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