• Re: About the relativistic doggies doctoring the "evidence" against bas

    From Python@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 24 16:46:11 2024
    Le 24/09/2024 à 16:32, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37157/37157-pdf.pdf

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false (quite the
    opposite actually). You'll never get it. Face it
    Maciej.

    Find another hobby.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 24 17:28:37 2024
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 16:46, Python pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 16:32, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37157/37157-pdf.pdf

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false

    Is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true,
    poor stinker?


    (quite the
    opposite actually). You'll never get it. Face it
    Maciej.

    Find another hobby.

    No.
    Command some glowing worms instead, poor
    stinker.

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 24 22:05:27 2024
    Le 24/09/2024 à 17:28, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 16:46, Python pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 16:32, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37157/37157-pdf.pdf

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false

    Is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true,
    poor stinker?

    I already told you. You didn't get it.

     (quite the
    opposite actually). You'll never get it. Face it
    Maciej.

    Find another hobby.

    No.
    Command some glowing worms instead,

    Comparing *you* to a glowing worms is an insult to worms :-)

    poor stinker.
    Nice signature.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 24 20:57:03 2024
    Le 24/09/2024 à 17:28, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false

    Is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true,
    poor stinker?


    (quite the
    opposite actually). You'll never get it. Face it
    Maciej.

    Find another hobby.

    No.
    Command some glowing worms instead, poor
    stinker.

    Euclidean geometry no longer applies when we go very far or when we go
    very fast.

    In Newton's universe, this still applies and we can talk about a frame of reference in a "general" sense.

    We then take four orthonormal axes, and everything is simple and very practical.

    Only, there is a small problem, a small grain of sand: anisochrony.

    Oh, not much: about 3.33 nanoseconds per meter.

    And if we go very fast, or if we go very far, it counts, even if it is so
    small that Newton could neglect it.

    Except that Römer, who saw far with his telescope, will realize that
    something strange happens if we examine the revolution time of Jupiter's
    moons depending on whether we approach or move away.

    Römer did not realize that he had just discovered the first-degree relativistic effect: universal anisochrony.

    He believed that light took "a certain time" to reach the observer, he
    never understood how the universe was designed, nor why, although he was constantly observing all this live, he was constantly changing position, therefore observer (or vice versa if we assume that the earth was fixed
    and that it was Jupiter that moved).

    So I repeat: in relativity, Euclidean geometry no longer applies.

    The time axis is no longer perfectly orthogonal to the other three
    dimensions.

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 25 07:04:04 2024
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 22:05, Python pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 17:28, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 16:46, Python pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 16:32, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37157/37157-pdf.pdf

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false

    Is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true,
    poor stinker?

    I already told you.


    You did. But lies have short legs, poor stinker.
    So, is EG still assumed true? REALLY true?

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 25 07:08:29 2024
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 22:57, Richard Hachel pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 17:28, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false

    Is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true,
    poor stinker?


      (quite the
    opposite actually). You'll never get it. Face it
    Maciej.

    Find another hobby.

    No.
    Command some glowing worms instead, poor
    stinker.

    Euclidean geometry no longer applies when we go

    Sure, sure. Basic mathematics doesn't apply - because
    an idiot has asserted.
    Is 2+2=22 as well - when your "theory" needs it?

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 25 10:32:29 2024
    Le 25/09/2024 à 07:04, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 22:05, Python pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 17:28, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 16:46, Python pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 16:32, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37157/37157-pdf.pdf

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false

    Is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true,
    poor stinker?

    I already told you.


    You did.

    Nice to hear.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 25 12:51:29 2024
    W dniu 25.09.2024 o 10:32, Python pisze:
    Le 25/09/2024 à 07:04, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 22:05, Python pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 17:28, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 16:46, Python pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 16:32, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37157/37157-pdf.pdf

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false

    Is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true,
    poor stinker?

    I already told you.


    You did.

    Nice to hear.


    It's just that lies have short legs, poor stinker.
    So, is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true?

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 25 14:50:12 2024
    Le 25/09/2024 à 07:08, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 22:57, Richard Hachel pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 17:28, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false

    Is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true,
    poor stinker?


      (quite the
    opposite actually). You'll never get it. Face it
    Maciej.

    Find another hobby.

    No.
    Command some glowing worms instead, poor
    stinker.

    Euclidean geometry no longer applies when we go

    Sure, sure. Basic mathematics doesn't apply - because
    an idiot has asserted.
    Is 2+2=22 as well - when your "theory" needs it?

    No, I have never needed to say that 2+2=22 to establish my theories (not
    just physical ones) and I always start from very serious and Cartesian principles.
    Those who say that I believe that 2+2=22 have not read me.
    They are idiots.
    I am much more Cartesian and much stronger than most relativist theorists
    but they will never admit it.
    I am not talking about men who turn into spaghettithis near black holes, I
    am not talking about flying saucers and Roswell, I am not talking about
    disks whose circumference contracts without the radius moving, I am not
    talking about Langevin travelers who are followers of the time gap, and
    other stupidities that physicists, new preachers of the prophet Einstein,
    are very fond of.
    I beg you, therefore, not to say stupid things about me, lying things
    which will serve no purpose except to excite fools.

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 25 18:00:32 2024
    W dniu 25.09.2024 o 16:50, Richard Hachel pisze:
    Le 25/09/2024 à 07:08, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 24.09.2024 o 22:57, Richard Hachel pisze:
    Le 24/09/2024 à 17:28, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    1905 - nothing about so trendy nowadays
    "counterexamples" against Euclidean
    prejudices allegedly found in massive numbers
    on Earth surface.

    Relativistic doggies have invented them -
    after their idiot guru announced EG false.
    Yes - doctoring evidence, classics of
    ideology oriented branches of science.

    Nobody announced Euclidean Geometry false

    Is it still assumed true, then? REALLY true,
    poor stinker?


      (quite the
    opposite actually). You'll never get it. Face it
    Maciej.

    Find another hobby.

    No.
    Command some glowing worms instead, poor
    stinker.

    Euclidean geometry no longer applies when we go

    Sure, sure. Basic mathematics doesn't apply - because
    an idiot has  asserted.
    Is 2+2=22 as well - when your "theory" needs it?

    No, I have never needed to say that 2+2=22 to establish my theories (not


    As if insisting that EG doesn't apply was
    somehow better.

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