So we can sum it up:
Since the speed of light is slow (c), the light will use 1 second
to go from the Moon to Richards telescope.
So the picture of the watch in the telescope will show 00:00'07"
when the lunar watch shows 00:00'08".
But since the speed of light is infinite and the picture of
the watch in the telescope show 00:00'07", the lunar watch
is really 00:00'07" at the very moment when the watch on
Richard's table is 00:00'08".
Well explained, Richard!
It is all clear when we take into account the POSITION of
the observer and the PERSONAL REALITY of his hyperplane
of present time.
Le 27/08/2024 à 20:09, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
So we can sum it up:
Since the speed of light is slow (c), the light will use 1 second
to go from the Moon to Richards telescope.
So the picture of the watch in the telescope will show 00:00'07"
when the lunar watch shows 00:00'08".
But since the speed of light is infinite and the picture of
the watch in the telescope show 00:00'07", the lunar watch
is really 00:00'07" at the very moment when the watch on
Richard's table is 00:00'08".
Well explained, Richard!
It is all clear when we take into account the POSITION of
the observer and the PERSONAL REALITY of his hyperplane
of present time.
Is this a joke or did you actually understand and approve of what I have
been saying for 40 years?
Because this is the first time a human being has told me that he has understood.
It is not common in the history of humanity.
27 août 2024 : a miracle on Earth?
R.H.
Den 27.08.2024 20:34, skrev Richard Hachel:
When I take into account your POSITION and the dual
PERSONAL REALITY of your hyperplane of present time,
then the speed of light is both finite and infinite
(and vice versa) in the correct Hachelian space-time
with universal anisochrony.
Den 26.08.2024 13:02, skrev Richard Hachel:
There is a one-second time difference between
00:00:08 and 00:00:07", between my watch and
the watch on the moon.
This is because of the speed of light, which is quite slow,
and takes at least a second to reach me.
And so that explains everything.
This is the reality, as you know!
You have correctly explained that you see the watch in the telescope
delayed by 1 second, so you _know_ that the lunar watch shows 00:00'08"
like the watch on your table.
You _know_ the watches are synchronous in the ECI frame.
Of course it is a bad joke that the speed of light is both
finite and infinite, and that you can make a clock change
its reading by looking at it.
You are babbling nonsense.
Take a close look at the following little diagram.
What happens if I set two identical watches on my table
and I slowly move one of them towards the moon.
(let's say in three weeks to avoid a v²/c² ratio very different from 1)?
I notice in my telescope that when my watch marks
00:00'08" the lunar clock is desynchronized and marks 00:00'07".
The beautiful thing is to say that "photons move at c".
The genius is to say that transactions are instantaneous,
and that it is men's ignorance of the correct space-time
that creates this illusion.
It is really 00:00'07" over there, at the very moment
when it is 00:00'08" here.
There is a one-second time difference between
00:00:08 and 00:00:07", between my watch and
the watch on the moon.
This is because of the speed of light, which is quite slow,
and takes at least a second to reach me.
And so that explains everything.
We place a point A, and we draw in representation inside a slice x,y,z,
its own present time hyperplane.
It is the 3D hyperplane of present time, of universal simultaneity
specific to A, as everyone has their own.
But this hyperplane, in the universe, because the universe is made this
way is NOT "nestable" from A to B, from B to C, etc...
Breathe, blow, I have known it for 40 years.
I won't bother to comment your claim that the speed of light
between a watch and yourself depends on "how you position yourself".
Le 28/08/2024 à 20:26, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
Of course it is a bad joke that the speed of light is both
finite and infinite, and that you can make a clock change
its reading by looking at it.
You are babbling nonsense.
If I look at a cylinder like this presentation of chips, I do not
observe the same geometric figure in my field of vision depending on how
I look at it.
Sometimes I SEE a circle, and my camera photographs a circle,
sometimes I SEE a rectangle, and my camera photographs a rectangle.
<http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?KEAdeNaSGPhdUQc32DGS2HcmhqA@jntp/Data.Media:1>
The same goes for measuring the speed of light, which is nothing other
than the way I study geometry, universal anisochrony.
Depending on how I position myself, I do not measure the same thing. Relativity is ALSO that.
Don't tell me you don't understand that the proton rotates
11.25 million times per second in the laboratory frame
but 78 million times per second in the proton frame.
This is called time dilation.
Le 29/08/2024 à 13:21, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
I won't bother to comment your claim that the speed of light
between a watch and yourself depends on "how you position yourself".
That is indeed what I said.
Due to universal anisochrony, the speed of light depends
on the position of the observer.
There is a one-second time difference between 00:00:08 and 00:00:07",between my watch and the watch on the moon.
This is because of the speed of light, which is quite slow, and takesat least a second to reach me.
And so that explains everything.
<snip nonsense>
Don't tell me you don't understand that the proton rotates 11.25million times per second in the laboratory frame but 78 million times
This is called time dilation.
Le 29/08/2024 à 08:10, Thomas Heger a écrit :
Am Dienstag000027, 27.08.2024 um 12:25 schrieb Richard Hachel:
Le 27/08/2024 à 07:31, Thomas Heger a écrit :
1. *If the clock at B synchronizes with the clock at A, the clock at
A synchronizes with the clock at B*.
2. If the clock at A synchronizes with the clock at B and also with
the clock at C, the clocks at B and C also synchronize with each other.
Den 29.08.2024 13:53, skrev Richard Hachel:
But Richard Hachel claims that the proton moves 6933 times
around the cycle while it moves once around the cycle!
It is obvious that if it moves from left to right, transversely, or from right to left, the speed of light will be the same.
Let's say that I have not measured it yet, that I just know that it is
very fast, so I cannot say precisely what it is.
But AT LEAST, can I suppose that it would be very surprising if it moved faster in one direction or another. Which would be an absurdity in a
concept of refutation of absolute or privileged referent.
If I can measure this transverse speed from A to B (i.e. without
possible Doppler effect that could distort my measurement) I will find Vo=3.10^8m/s.
And then, it's true, if I practice in the other direction, I will still
find
Vo=3.10^8m/s.
It is equal in both directions, and it is logical that it should be.
I will now turn my device AB by 90°, and I will place myself this time,
in a position perpendicular to what I was previously, and again, I will calculate the transverse speed of light from A to B.
Bingo!
From A to B, or from B to A, I will note Vo=3.10^8m/s
Tears of joy will then slowly flow down my pink cheek:
I have just proven something invariant.
Except that I am an idiot who has not understood anything at all, and
who has not noticed the enormous bias that I have just described here.
Den 29.08.2024 13:53, skrev Richard Hachel:
Only an ignorant moron would claim:
"the speed of light depends on the position of the observer."
Le 29/08/2024 à 15:35, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
Den 29.08.2024 13:53, skrev Richard Hachel:
Only an ignorant moron would claim:
"the speed of light depends on the position of the observer."
C'est ce que j'ai dit, et ce que je maintiens.
Je ne conseille pas de me contredire, sous peine de passer au final,
pour un crétin.
Il est absolument clair que des personnes sensées et réfléchies vont
tout de suite comprendre que si je dis ça, c'est que j'en ai dans la culotte, et que c'est FORCEMENT celui qui ne comprend pas qui est la
crétin, et pas celui qui décrit les choses.
This is strange: on a sample of all people who have read your idiocies
for more than thirty years it happens that 100% of them are "cretins".
A sane person would consider that maybe it is because he/she is claiming something that is absolutely idiotic. Not you :-)
So you will continue to be perceived as the idiot you actually are.
Le 29/08/2024 à 15:57, Python a écrit :
This is strange: on a sample of all people who have read your idiocies
for more than thirty years it happens that 100% of them are "cretins".
A sane person would consider that maybe it is because he/she is claiming
something that is absolutely idiotic. Not you :-)
So you will continue to be perceived as the idiot you actually are.
Tu n'as jamais été crétin, toi?
Un homme normal SAIT qu'il a souvent été crétin, et va chercher ce qui est juste, ce qui est vrai, ce qui est cohérent.
[...]
Le 29/08/2024 à 15:12, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
Den 29.08.2024 13:53, skrev Richard Hachel:
But Richard Hachel claims that the proton moves 6933 times
around the cycle while it moves once around the cycle!
I never said that.
I said that the proton was moving 6933 times faster than our
local clocks based on M-type synchronization could record.
Don't tell me you don't understand that the proton rotates
11.25 thousand times per second in the laboratory frame but
78 million times per second in the proton frame.
This is called time dilation.
Le 29/08/2024 à 15:35, "Paul.B.Andersen" a écrit :
Den 29.08.2024 13:53, skrev Richard Hachel:
Only an ignorant moron would claim:
"the speed of light depends on the position of the observer."
That's what I said, and what I stand by.
I do not advise contradicting myself, otherwise you
will end up looking like a moron.
It is absolutely clear that sensible and thoughtful people
will immediately understand that if I say that,
it is because I have it in my pants, and that it is
NECESSARILY the one who does not understand who is the moron,
and not the one who describes things.
I'm talking about the apparent speed of light.
I am not talking about its real speed Vr,
nor its observable (necessarily transverse) speed Vo.
With it is true the disconcerting idea for the pusillanimous
reader of RR that, with good Doctor Hachel, and in the notion
of relativistic physics: "Esse est percipi".
The essence is nothing other than the directly perceived.
The experimental evidence will inevitably show this.
Necessarily.
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