• Re: The physics of [SR] still inconsistent

    From Python@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 13:26:25 2024
    Le 07/08/2024 à 12:57, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second
    As seen, the definition of second loved so
    much to be invoked by relativistic [physicists] -
    wasn't valid in the time when [Albert Einstein]
    lived and [published]. Up to 1960 it was ordinary
    1/86400 of a solar day, also in physics.


    Now: an observer moving with c/2 wrt
    solar system is measuring the length
    of solar day. What is the result predicted
    by the Einsteinian physics?
    One prediction is - 99766. From the
    postulates. The second prediction is -
    86400. From definition.

    If the observer brings his own co-moving copy of the Solar System he
    will notice that the rotation time of his own copy of Earth won't match
    the rotation time of the original Earth.

    And [similarly] with the prediction of
    a measurement of a meridian.

    Same. He will notice that the length of a meridian won't change on his
    own copy of Earth while it will be shorter on the original Earth.

    Case closed: SR is consistent.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 14:18:24 2024
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 13:26, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 12:57, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second
    As seen, the definition of second loved so
    much to be invoked by relativistic [physicists] -
    wasn't valid in the time when [Albert Einstein]
    lived and [published]. Up to 1960 it was ordinary
    1/86400 of a solar day, also in physics.


    Now: an observer moving with c/2 wrt
    solar system is measuring the length
    of solar day. What is the result predicted
    by the Einsteinian physics?
    One prediction is - 99766. From the
    postulates. The second prediction is -
    86400. From definition.

    If the observer brings his own co-moving copy of the Solar System he

    Physicists of 1905 were idiots, sure,
    but not in your scale and their definition
    does not include your delusional madness.
    It is simple 1/86400 of a [solar] day -
    making the mumble of your idiot guru
    not even consistent.
    Similarly (thanks for correction) with
    the meridian. Sorry, poor stinker.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 14:37:22 2024
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:29, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    [stupid babbling]

    Similarly (thanks for correction)

    You're welcome.

    [profanity]


    And the physics of your idiot guru remains
    not even consistent; a piece of fanatic
    shit babbling of gedanken copies of Solar
    System (sic) is not changing anything.




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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Python on Wed Aug 7 14:47:05 2024
    Python <python@invalid.org> wrote:

    Le 07/08/2024 à 12:57, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second
    As seen, the definition of second loved so
    much to be invoked by relativistic [physicists] -
    wasn't valid in the time when [Albert Einstein]
    lived and [published]. Up to 1960 it was ordinary
    1/86400 of a solar day, also in physics.


    Now: an observer moving with c/2 wrt
    solar system is measuring the length
    of solar day. What is the result predicted
    by the Einsteinian physics?
    One prediction is - 99766. From the
    postulates. The second prediction is -
    86400. From definition.

    If the observer brings his own co-moving copy of the Solar System he
    will notice that the rotation time of his own copy of Earth won't match
    the rotation time of the original Earth.

    And [similarly] with the prediction of
    a measurement of a meridian.

    Same. He will notice that the length of a meridian won't change on his
    own copy of Earth while it will be shorter on the original Earth.

    Case closed: SR is consistent.

    And GR too. If he is just sitting still wrt to the solar system,
    but far out beyond Pluto, he will notice that his clocks run at TCB, (barycentric coordinate time)
    which differs from TAI by about half a second per year,

    Jan

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 14:51:11 2024
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:37, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:29, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    [stupid babbling]

    Similarly (thanks for correction)

    You're welcome.

    [profanity]


    And the physics of [SR] remains
    not even consistent; a [snip profanity]
    [snip profanity] gedanken copies  of Solar
    System  (sic) is not changing  anything.

    It is. Every layman could understand it, even if some
    "laymen" won't.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 14:59:52 2024
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:51, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:37, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:29, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    [stupid babbling]

    Similarly (thanks for correction)

    You're welcome.

    [profanity]


    And the physics of [SR] remains
    not even consistent; a [snip profanity]
    [snip profanity] gedanken copies  of Solar
    System  (sic) is not changing  anything.

    It is.

    No, it is not. Physicists of 1905 were
    VERY stupid, sure, but not stupid enough
    to invoke gedanken copies of Earth in their
    definition of a physical measurement unit.
    Their definitions of second and meter were
    what they were was and The Shit of your
    idiot guru was not even consistent.


    And whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
    to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
    would be, and he has written it clearly
    enough for anyone able to read (even if not
    clearly enough for you, poor stinker).

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 15:04:14 2024
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:59, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:51, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:37, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:29, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    [stupid babbling]

    Similarly (thanks for correction)

    You're welcome.

    [profanity]


    And the physics of [SR] remains
    not even consistent; a [snip profanity]
    [snip profanity] gedanken copies  of Solar
    System  (sic) is not changing  anything.

    It is.

    No, it is not. Physicists of 1905 were
    VERY stupid, sure, but not stupid enough
    to invoke gedanken copies of Earth in their
    definition of a physical measurement unit.
    Their definitions of second and meter were
    what they were was and The Shit of your
    idiot guru was not even consistent.


    And whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
    to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
    would be, and he has written it clearly
    enough for anyone able to read (even if not
    clearly enough for you, poor stinker).


    Yawn.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 15:04:54 2024
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:47, J. J. Lodder pisze:
    Python <python@invalid.org> wrote:

    Le 07/08/2024 à 12:57, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second
    As seen, the definition of second loved so
    much to be invoked by relativistic [physicists] -
    wasn't valid in the time when [Albert Einstein]
    lived and [published]. Up to 1960 it was ordinary
    1/86400 of a solar day, also in physics.


    Now: an observer moving with c/2 wrt
    solar system is measuring the length
    of solar day. What is the result predicted
    by the Einsteinian physics?
    One prediction is - 99766. From the
    postulates. The second prediction is -
    86400. From definition.

    If the observer brings his own co-moving copy of the Solar System he
    will notice that the rotation time of his own copy of Earth won't match
    the rotation time of the original Earth.

    And [similarly] with the prediction of
    a measurement of a meridian.

    Same. He will notice that the length of a meridian won't change on his
    own copy of Earth while it will be shorter on the original Earth.

    Case closed: SR is consistent.

    And GR too. If he is just sitting still wrt to the solar system,
    but far out beyond Pluto, he will notice that his clocks run at TCB, (barycentric coordinate time)
    which differs from TAI by about half a second per year,

    Anyone can check GPS, sorry, poor halfbrain,
    the REAl clock rate doesn't match the sick
    delusions of your bunch of idiots. Common
    sense was warning you.
    And with the subject of the thread it has nothing
    in common.

    Jan


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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 15:06:58 2024
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 15:04, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:59, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:51, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:37, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:29, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    [stupid babbling]

    Similarly (thanks for correction)

    You're welcome.

    [profanity]


    And the physics of [SR] remains
    not even consistent; a [snip profanity]
    [snip profanity] gedanken copies  of Solar
    System  (sic) is not changing  anything.

    It is.

    No, it is not. Physicists of 1905 were
    VERY stupid, sure, but not stupid enough
    to invoke gedanken copies of Earth in their
    definition of a physical measurement unit.
    Their definitions of second and meter were
    what they were was and The Shit of your
    idiot guru was not even consistent.


    And whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
    to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
    would be, and he has written it clearly
    enough for anyone able to read (even if not
    clearly enough for you, poor stinker).

    Yawn.

    Your yawning changes nothing, samely as
    your moronic gedanken copies of Earth.
    The Shit of your idiot guru remains
    not even consistent.





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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 15:09:02 2024
    Le 07/08/2024 à 15:06, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 15:04, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:59, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:51, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:37, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:29, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    [stupid babbling]

    Similarly (thanks for correction)

    You're welcome.

    [profanity]


    And the physics of [SR] remains
    not even consistent; a [snip profanity]
    [snip profanity] gedanken copies  of Solar
    System  (sic) is not changing  anything.

    It is.

    No, it is not. Physicists of 1905 were
    VERY stupid, sure, but not stupid enough
    to invoke gedanken copies of Earth in their
    definition of a physical measurement unit.
    Their definitions of second and meter were
    what they were was and The Shit of your
    idiot guru was not even consistent.


    And whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
    to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
    would be, and he has written it clearly
    enough for anyone able to read (even if not
    clearly enough for you, poor stinker).

    Yawn.

    Your yawning changes nothing, samely as
    your moronic gedanken copies of Earth.
    The Shit of your idiot guru remains
    not even consistent.

    Yawn. Yawn.

    The case is closed. Posting demented rant on demented rant
    won't change anything :-) You've still not convince a single
    person on Earth that your are right. Not even other cranks :-)

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 14:29:58 2024
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    [stupid babbling]
    Similarly (thanks for correction)

    You're welcome.

    [profanity]

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 15:52:18 2024
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 15:09, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 15:06, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 15:04, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:59, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:51, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:37, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:29, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    [stupid babbling]

    Similarly (thanks for correction)

    You're welcome.

    [profanity]


    And the physics of [SR] remains
    not even consistent; a [snip profanity]
    [snip profanity] gedanken copies  of Solar
    System  (sic) is not changing  anything.

    It is.

    No, it is not. Physicists of 1905 were
    VERY stupid, sure, but not stupid enough
    to invoke gedanken copies of Earth in their
    definition of a physical measurement unit.
    Their definitions of second and meter were
    what they were was and The Shit of your
    idiot guru was not even consistent.


    And whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
    to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
    would be, and he has written it clearly
    enough for anyone able to read (even if not
    clearly enough for you, poor stinker).

    Yawn.

    Your yawning changes nothing, samely as
    your moronic gedanken copies of Earth.
    The Shit of your idiot guru remains
    not even consistent.

    Yawn. Yawn.

    The case is closed.

    Yes it is, I've proven the mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even
    consistent. A fanatic piece of shit
    screaming "NOOOOO!!" and trying to
    fake the definitions it was using
    is changing nothing.

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 7 15:53:09 2024
    Le 07/08/2024 à 15:52, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 15:09, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 15:06, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 15:04, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:59, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:51, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:37, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 07.08.2024 o 14:29, Python pisze:
    Le 07/08/2024 à 14:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    [stupid babbling]

    Similarly (thanks for correction)

    You're welcome.

    [profanity]


    And the physics of [SR] remains
    not even consistent; a [snip profanity]
    [snip profanity] gedanken copies  of Solar
    System  (sic) is not changing  anything.

    It is.

    No, it is not. Physicists of 1905 were
    VERY stupid, sure, but not stupid enough
    to invoke gedanken copies of Earth in their
    definition of a physical measurement unit.
    Their definitions of second and meter were
    what they were was and The Shit of your
    idiot guru was not even consistent.


    And whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
    to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
    would be, and he has written it clearly
    enough for anyone able to read (even if not
    clearly enough for you, poor stinker).

    Yawn.

    Your yawning changes nothing, samely as
    your moronic gedanken copies of Earth.
    The Shit of your idiot guru remains
    not even consistent.

    Yawn. Yawn.

    The case is closed.

    Yes it is, I've proven the mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even
    consistent. A fanatic piece of shit
    screaming "NOOOOO!!" and trying to
    fake the definitions it was using
    is changing nothing.


    *Yawn*

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