• Re: Space and spacetime

    From Python@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 15:49:55 2024
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:35, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Definitely not. As a matter of fact the opposite is a fact. Your
    claims are violating Relativity Principle and are contradictory.

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 16:21:03 2024
    Le 15/06/2024 à 16:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 15.06.2024 o 15:49, Python pisze:
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:35, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Definitely not. As a matter of fact the opposite is a fact. Your
    claims are violating Relativity Principle and are contradictory.


    Still - can't be worse than the inconsistent
    mumble of your idiot guru.
    BTW, ell me, poor stinker, have you already  learnt
    what a function is? Are you still trying to
    determine its properties applying a French
    definition of a different word?

    Nurse! Wozniak is shitting in his pants again!

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 16:18:39 2024
    W dniu 15.06.2024 o 15:49, Python pisze:
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:35, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Definitely not. As a matter of fact the opposite is a fact. Your
    claims are violating Relativity Principle and are contradictory.


    Still - can't be worse than the inconsistent
    mumble of your idiot guru.
    BTW, ell me, poor stinker, have you already learnt
    what a function is? Are you still trying to
    determine its properties applying a French
    definition of a different word?

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 16:49:51 2024
    Le 15/06/2024 à 15:49, Python a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:35, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Definitely not. As a matter of fact the opposite is a fact. Your
    claims are violating Relativity Principle and are contradictory.

    Les plaisanteries les meilleures sont les plus courtes.

    Mets un bémol dans tes interventions ridicules.

    R.H.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 17:04:39 2024
    Le 15/06/2024 à 16:21, Python a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 16:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    Nurse! Wozniak is shitting in his pants again!

    Laisse Maciej tranquille.

    Il se trompe certes sur le fait que t'=t.

    Mais il est moins bouffon que toi.

    T'euh qu'un guignol!

    T'euh même pas capab' de comprendre des évidence telles que Vapp=v/(1+cosµ.v/c)

    Même Maciej il le comprend...

    Mais pas toi.

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 18:20:58 2024
    W dniu 15.06.2024 o 16:21, Python pisze:
    Le 15/06/2024 à 16:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 15.06.2024 o 15:49, Python pisze:
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:35, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Definitely not. As a matter of fact the opposite is a fact. Your
    claims are violating Relativity Principle and are contradictory.


    Still - can't be worse than the inconsistent
    mumble of your idiot guru.
    BTW, ell me, poor stinker, have you already  learnt
    what a function is? Are you still trying to
    determine its properties applying a French
    definition of a different word?

    Nurse! Wozniak is shitting in his pants again!


    Your lies and slanders, again, can't change anything.
    The moronic mumble of your idiot guru was not even
    consistent and it has been proven.
    But, of course, lies and slanders are what physics
    is training its doggies for.

    BTW, tell me, poor stinker, have you already learnt
    what a function is? Are you still trying to
    determine its properties applying a French
    definition of a different word?

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 23:05:00 2024
    Le 15/06/2024 à 18:49, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 15:49, Python a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:35, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Definitely not. As a matter of fact the opposite is a fact. Your
    claims are violating Relativity Principle and are contradictory.

    Les plaisanteries les meilleures sont les plus courtes.

    Right.

    Mets un bémol dans tes interventions ridicules.

    This is what you should do. You are posting nonsense about Relativity
    for decades.

    Isn't it time to grow up?

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 23:24:02 2024
    W dniu 15.06.2024 o 23:05, Python pisze:
    Le 15/06/2024 à 18:49, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 15:49, Python a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:35, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Definitely not. As a matter of fact the opposite is a fact. Your
    claims are violating Relativity Principle and are contradictory.

    Les plaisanteries les meilleures sont les plus courtes.

    Right.

    Mets un bémol dans tes interventions ridicules.

    This is what you should do. You are posting nonsense about Relativity
    for decades.

    So are you and your fellow cultists.
    BTW, Tell me, poor stinker, have you already
    learnt what a function is? Are you still trying to
    determine its properties applying a French
    definition of a different word?


    Isn't it time to grow up?






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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 23:35:09 2024
    Le 15/06/2024 à 23:24, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 15.06.2024 o 23:05, Python pisze:
    Le 15/06/2024 à 18:49, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 15:49, Python a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:35, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Definitely not. As a matter of fact the opposite is a fact. Your
    claims are violating Relativity Principle and are contradictory.

    Les plaisanteries les meilleures sont les plus courtes.

    Right.

    Mets un bémol dans tes interventions ridicules.

    This is what you should do. You are posting nonsense about Relativity
    for decades.

    So are you and your fellow cultists.
    BTW, Tell me, poor stinker, have you already
    learnt  what a function is? Are you still trying to
    determine its properties applying a French
    definition of a different word?

    Nurse! Wozniak shit his pants again tonight!

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 23:34:34 2024
    Le 15/06/2024 à 19:04, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 16:21, Python a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 16:18, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :

    Nurse! Wozniak is shitting in his pants again!

    Laisse Maciej tranquille.

    Why? By the way what's your opinion about his argument on
    the definition of a second back in Einstein's times and now?

    Il se trompe certes sur le fait que t'=t.

    Neither you or him could even explain what it would mean
    anyway.

    Mais il est moins bouffon que toi.

    T'euh qu'un guignol!

    T'euh même pas capab' de comprendre des évidence telles que Vapp=v/(1+cosµ.v/c)

    There is nothing obvious there.
    The very formula I have derived and you never did? :-D

    Même Maciej il le comprend...

    I doubt it. Ask him.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 21:47:19 2024
    Le 15/06/2024 à 23:05, Python a écrit :

    Les plaisanteries les meilleures sont les plus courtes.

    Right.

    Absolutely, baby.

    Isn't it time to grow up?

    Absolutely.

    R.H.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 15 21:57:11 2024
    Le 15/06/2024 à 23:34, Python a écrit :
    Laisse Maciej tranquille.

    Why? By the way what's your opinion about his argument on
    the definition of a second back in Einstein's times and now?

    Il se trompe certes sur le fait que t'=t.

    Neither you or him could even explain what it would mean
    anyway.

    Mais il est moins bouffon que toi.

    T'euh qu'un guignol!

    T'euh même pas capab' de comprendre des évidence telles que
    Vapp=v/(1+cosµ.v/c)

    There is nothing obvious there.
    The very formula I have derived and you never did? :-D

    Même Maciej il le comprend...

    I doubt it. Ask him.

    Yes, but at this price, something strange is evident.

    You keep repeating: "Hachel is a joke, you should definitely not think
    that he is not a big dick in the whole history of humanity, he is not a three-time Nobel Prize winner, he knows nothing in sociology, nothing in medicine, nothing in theology, nothing in relativistic physics, etc...."

    Then you say: “he is capable of nothing”.

    Then you take an equation and say:
    Vapp=v/(1+cosµ.v/c) it's good, I checked it, but it's not his.
    Because if it was him, it would be fake.

    This all turns grotesque.

    Okay, will you try your page on apparent speeds? There is Paul B. Andersen
    who attempted one which I skimmed from afar (because I cannot read English quickly), I do not see why by repeating what he says, what I say, and what
    you said on the subject,
    you couldn't make a two or three page pdf.

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 16 07:28:34 2024
    W dniu 15.06.2024 o 23:35, Python pisze:
    Le 15/06/2024 à 23:24, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 15.06.2024 o 23:05, Python pisze:
    Le 15/06/2024 à 18:49, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 15:49, Python a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:35, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact. >>>>>>>
    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Definitely not. As a matter of fact the opposite is a fact. Your
    claims are violating Relativity Principle and are contradictory.

    Les plaisanteries les meilleures sont les plus courtes.

    Right.

    Mets un bémol dans tes interventions ridicules.

    This is what you should do. You are posting nonsense about Relativity
    for decades.

    So are you and your fellow cultists.
    BTW, Tell me, poor stinker, have you already
    learnt  what a function is? Are you still trying to
    determine its properties applying a French
    definition of a different word?

    Nurse! Wozniak shit his pants again tonight!



    See, trash: I've proven the mumble of your
    idiot guru to be not even consistent, and
    you can do nothing about it but to lie and
    slander. But you will do what you can for
    the glory of your moronic church.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Sun Jun 16 17:35:20 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    See, trash:

    Yes, I see trash every time Wozzie posts.

    I've proven the mumble of your idiot guru
    to be not even consistent,

    Only a delusional non compos mentis would
    claim that and all Wozzie can do is lie
    about it.

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  • From Paul B. Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 16 20:45:40 2024
    Den 15.06.2024 23:57, skrev Richard Hachel:
    Le 15/06/2024 à 23:34, Python a écrit :
    Laisse Maciej tranquille.

    I doubt it.

    You keep repeating: "Hachel is a joke, you should definitely not think
    that he is not a big dick in the whole history of humanity, he is not a three-time Nobel Prize winner,

    Python is obviously wrong, of course Doctor Hachel (that's you) is
    a big dick in the history of humanity and a three-time Nobel Prize
    winner, nobody would lie about something that's so easy to check.

    Are all the three Nobel Prizes won by the famous genius Doctor Hachel
    in physics?

    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 16 21:04:12 2024
    W dniu 16.06.2024 o 19:35, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    See, trash:

    Yes, I see trash every time Wozzie posts.

    I've proven the mumble of your idiot guru
    to be not even consistent,

    Only a delusional non compos mentis would
    claim that and all Wozzie can do is lie
    about it.

    See, trash: I've proven the mumble of your
    idiot guru to be not even consistent, and
    you can do nothing about it but to bark and
    spit. But you will do what you can for
    the glory of your moronic church.

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  • From Paul B. Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 16 20:22:01 2024
    Den 15.06.2024 23:47, skrev Richard Hachel:

    Absolutely.

    R.H.


    Doctor Hachel (that's you), are all your Nobel Prices in physics?


    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Jun 17 03:30:50 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 16.06.2024 o 19:35, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    See, trash:

    Yes, I see trash every time Wozzie posts.

    I've proven the mumble of your idiot guru
    to be not even consistent,

    Only a delusional non compos mentis would
    claim that and all Wozzie can do is lie
    about it.

    See, trash: I've proven the mumble of your
    idiot guru to be not even consistent, and
    you can do nothing about it but to bark and
    spit. But you will do what you can for
    the glory of your moronic church.

    Repeating lies doesn't make them true. Only
    an insane mumbler would keep it up post after
    post, day after day, month after month, year
    after year until he drops dead one day having
    accomplished absolutely nothing.

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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Mon Jun 17 11:13:29 2024
    On 2024-06-16 21:28:01 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

    Le 16/06/2024 22:46, film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) a crit :
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 15/06/2024 14:07, Roeidi Hegeds a crit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Nonsense.
    --
    Jan

    Lorsqu'on accuse quelqu'un, il faut des preuves concordantes et
    acceptes de tous.


    Have you convinced anyone at all that your analysis is correct? Who?


    --
    athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 17 10:54:13 2024
    W dniu 17.06.2024 o 05:30, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 16.06.2024 o 19:35, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    See, trash:
    Yes, I see trash every time Wozzie posts.
    I've proven the mumble of your idiot guru
    to be not even consistent,
    Only a delusional non compos mentis would
    claim that and all Wozzie can do is lie
    about it.

    See, trash: I've proven the mumble of your
    idiot guru to be not even consistent, and
    you can do nothing about it but to bark and
    spit. But you will do what you can for
    the glory of your moronic church.

    Repeating lies doesn't make them true.

    Too bad for you, too bad for your idiot gurus,
    to bad for your moronic church.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 17 13:13:58 2024
    Le 17/06/2024 à 11:13, Athel Cornish-Bowden a écrit :
    On 2024-06-16 21:28:01 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

    Le 16/06/2024 à 22:46, film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) a écrit :
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :
    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a fact.

    Nonsense.
    --
    Jan

    Lorsqu'on accuse quelqu'un, il faut des preuves concordantes et
    acceptées de tous.


    Have you convinced anyone at all that your analysis is correct? Who?

    I don't know.
    I do not think so.
    But this is not a counterargument.
    Raël, the guru of the Canadian sect, has made thousands of followers, explaining that he had spoken to the Elohims.
    De Gaulle was not followed by anyone in explaining that occupied France
    had not yet lost the war as long as the Russians, the English, and the Americans continued the fight.
    The fact of convincing or not convincing is not proof of lie or truth.
    It is often even the opposite.
    This is also what the Christian religion, Eastern philosophers, Western fabulists, and sociological evidence tell us.
    We must therefore judge on what is said, and on what is written, and not
    on what is claimed.

    R.H.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Tue Jun 18 04:07:30 2024
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 17/06/2024 à 11:13, Athel Cornish-Bowden a écrit :

    On 2024-06-16 21:28:01 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

    Le 16/06/2024 à 22:46, film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) a écrit :

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 15/06/2024 à 14:07, Roeidi Hegedüs a écrit :

    Luigi Fortunati wrote:

    Einstein's formulas work better than Newton's and that's a
    fact.

    no shit Sherlock.

    Hachel's formulas work better than Einstein's and that's a
    fact.

    Nonsense.
    --
    Jan

    Lorsqu'on accuse quelqu'un, il faut des preuves concordantes et acceptées de tous.


    Have you convinced anyone at all that your analysis is correct? Who?

    I don't know.
    I do not think so.
    But this is not a counterargument.
    Raël, the guru of the Canadian sect, has made thousands of followers, explaining that he had spoken to the Elohims.
    De Gaulle was not followed by anyone in explaining that occupied France

    had not yet lost the war as long as the Russians, the English, and the Americans continued the fight.
    The fact of convincing or not convincing is not proof of lie or truth.
    It is often even the opposite.
    This is also what the Christian religion, Eastern philosophers, Western

    fabulists, and sociological evidence tell us.
    We must therefore judge on what is said, and on what is written, and
    not

    on what is claimed.

    R.H.

    Neither is this an argument, counter or otherwise. Science is NOT
    based
    on what is said or written. It is based on whether the analysis agrees
    with what occurs, i.e., the outcomes of experiments.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 08:01:58 2024
    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 06:07, gharnagel pisze:


    Neither is this an argument, counter or otherwise.  Science is NOT
    based
    on what is said or written.

    Only such an idiot can believe or repeat
    such absurd lie, Harrie.


    t is based on whether the analysis agrees
    with what occurs, i.e., the outcomes of experiments.

    Harrie, it's most un fortunate that your
    moronic church is a part of science, but
    only such an idiot can deny there are
    others.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 09:01:35 2024
    Le 18/06/2024 à 06:07, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
    Neither is this an argument, counter or otherwise. Science is NOT
    based
    on what is said or written. It is based on whether the analysis agrees
    with what occurs, i.e., the outcomes of experiments.

    This is science as you imagine it.
    This is not always true. We must not neglect the human aspect.
    Especially when it comes to theoretical science or medical science where
    you can either hide because it's embarrassing, or lie to make money.

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 11:33:53 2024
    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 11:01, Richard Hachel pisze:
    Le 18/06/2024 à 06:07, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
    Neither is this an argument, counter or otherwise.  Science is NOT
    based
    on what is said or written.  It is based on whether the analysis agrees
    with what occurs, i.e., the outcomes of experiments.

    This is science as you imagine it.

    What is said or written is not only
    the basement, but also the only content
    of science.
    Science is an advanced informational system.
    And Harrie-like idiots are trying to include
    some Heavenly Force into it, because
    1)they have no slighest clue how the system is
    developed and maintained
    2)it would make them Heavenly Chosen Ones.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Tue Jun 18 12:46:15 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 11:01, Richard Hachel pisze:

    Le 18/06/2024 à 06:07, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Neither is this an argument, counter or otherwise.  Science is NOT
    based on what is said or written.  It is based on whether the
    analysis agrees with what occurs, i.e., the outcomes of
    experiments.

    This is science as you imagine it.
    This is not always true. We must not neglect the human aspect.

    Do you mean [gasp!] that scientists would LIE about their experiments?
    What about Dr. Hachel who never does any experiments, but lies about
    them anyway?

    Especially when it comes to theoretical science or medical science
    where
    you can either hide because it's embarrassing, or lie to make money.

    I don't know any rich theoretical physicists, nor any that hide.
    Proposing
    new ideas based upon extending present understanding is a good thing,
    IMHO,
    but proposing opinions based on fluff is not.

    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    -- Douglas Adams

    What is said or written is not only
    the basement, but also the only content
    of science.

    Nope. The foundation is what has been written about a phenomenon AND
    what
    has been verified by repeated experiments. Theoretical physics is not
    in
    the same category - until it has been verified - by observation and/ or
    by
    experiment.

    There are phenomena that are not exactly repeatable, subject to unknown
    factors (human or otherwise), that are another category.

    Science is an advanced informational system.

    That's too narrow a definition.

    And Harrie-like idiots are trying to include
    some Heavenly Force into it, because
    1)they have no slighest clue how the system is
    developed and maintained
    2)it would make them Heavenly Chosen Ones.

    That sounds like Wozzie is describing himself :-)

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 15:09:09 2024
    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 14:46, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 11:01, Richard Hachel pisze:

    Le 18/06/2024 à 06:07, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Neither is this an argument, counter or otherwise.  Science is NOT
    based on what is said or written.  It is based on whether the
    analysis agrees with what occurs, i.e., the outcomes of
    experiments.
    This is science as you imagine it.
    This is not always true. We must not neglect the human aspect.

    Do you mean [gasp!] that scientists would LIE about their experiments?

    Of course they do. Your moronic religion
    is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary
    mortal worms - but only such an idiot as
    you are can believe that.


    What about Dr. Hachel who never does any experiments, but lies about
    them anyway?

    Especially when it comes to theoretical science or medical science
    where you can either hide because it's embarrassing, or lie to make
    money.

    I don't know any rich theoretical physicists, nor any that hide. Proposing new ideas based upon extending present understanding is a good thing,
    IMHO,
    but proposing opinions based on fluff is not.

    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    -- Douglas Adams

    What is said or written is not only
    the basement, but also the only content
    of science.

    Nope.  The foundation is what has been written about

    Harrie, poor idiot, whatever is written must be written
    about something. Even such an idiot should understand
    that.

    a phenomenon AND
    what
    has been verified by repeated experiments.  Theoretical physics is not
    in
    the same category - until it has been verified - by observation and/ or
    by
    experiment.


    There are phenomena that are not exactly repeatable, subject to unknown factors (human or otherwise), that are another category.

    Science is an advanced informational system.

    That's too narrow a definition.

    That's not a definition, that's a [true] claim.

    And Harrie-like idiots are trying to include
    some Heavenly Force into it, because
    1)they have no slighest clue how the system is
    developed and maintained
    2)it would make them Heavenly Chosen Ones.

    That sounds like Wozzie is describing himself :-)

    I'm not the one hearing what the Nature is
    speaking and announcing that to the mortal
    worms in Her name, Harrie. It's you and
    your idiot gurus trying to blame her for
    your moronic mumble.

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 15:41:04 2024
    Le 18/06/2024 à 15:09, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 14:46, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 11:01, Richard Hachel pisze:

    Le 18/06/2024 à 06:07, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Neither is this an argument, counter or otherwise.  Science is NOT
    based on what is said or written.  It is based on whether the
    analysis agrees with what occurs, i.e., the outcomes of
    experiments.
    This is science as you imagine it.
    This is not always true. We must not neglect the human aspect.

    Do you mean [gasp!] that scientists would LIE about their experiments?

    Of course they do. Your moronic religion
    is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary
    mortal worms - but only such an idiot as
    you are can believe that.


    What about Dr. Hachel who never does any experiments, but lies about
    them anyway?

    Especially when it comes to theoretical science or medical science
    where you can either hide because it's embarrassing, or lie to make
    money.

    I don't know any rich theoretical physicists, nor any that hide.
    Proposing
    new ideas based upon extending present understanding is a good thing,
    IMHO,
    but proposing opinions based on fluff is not.

    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
    sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    -- Douglas Adams

    What is said or written is not only
    the basement, but also the only content
    of science.

    Nope.  The foundation is what has been written about

    Harrie, poor idiot, whatever is written must be written
    about something. Even such an idiot should understand
    that.

    a phenomenon AND
    what
    has been verified by repeated experiments.  Theoretical physics is not
    in
    the same category - until it has been verified - by observation and/ or
    by
    experiment.


    There are phenomena that are not exactly repeatable, subject to unknown
    factors (human or otherwise), that are another category.

    Science is an advanced informational system.

    That's too narrow a definition.

    That's not a definition, that's a [true] claim.

    And Harrie-like idiots are trying to include
    some Heavenly Force into it, because
    1)they have no slighest clue how the system is
    developed and maintained
    2)it would make them Heavenly Chosen Ones.

    That sounds like Wozzie is describing himself :-)

    I'm not the one hearing what the Nature is
    speaking and announcing that to the mortal
    worms in Her name, Harrie. It's you and
    your idiot gurus trying to blame her for
    your moronic mumble.

    Come on Wozniak! Physics can be taught to people
    not involved in the field quite successfully. It
    is not about being superior to "ordinary moral
    worms" it is about not being DEMENTED as you are.

    Which is the case for 99.99% of Humanity.

    There is nothing "superior" about spending his or
    her own time time in studying and practicing a specific field.

    Given the amount of utterly stupid garbage you've posted here,
    including in your alleged field of "information theory",
    where you also are a joke, I guess that you've spend
    most of your time rubbing your own ass.

    You can check my production online, including code, courses,
    articles. I would love to check yours :-)

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Tue Jun 18 13:53:52 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 14:46, gharnagel pisze:

    Do you mean [gasp!] that scientists would LIE about their
    experiments?

    Of course they do.

    Says the congenital liar :-))

    Wozzie believes scientists are as dishonest as he is.

    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms

    Wozzie's weaknesses are evident. He judges the scientific world
    by his own foibles, but he conveniently forgets that science works
    by verification, not by his mumblings and grumblings.

    - but only such an idiot as you are can believe that.

    Only such an idiot as Wozzie-fool believes he himself has the keys
    of truth and justice.

    I don't know any rich theoretical physicists, nor any that hide.
    Proposing
    new ideas based upon extending present understanding is a good thing,
    IMHO,
    but proposing opinions based on fluff is not.

    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    -- Douglas Adams

    What is said or written is not only
    the basement, but also the only content
    of science.

    Nope.  The foundation is what has been written about

    Harrie, poor idiot, whatever is written must be written
    about something. Even such an idiot should understand
    that.

    Wozzie-liar tries to take words out of context to justify
    his prevarications. But he is wrong again: He writes
    lots of words, but they are about NOTHING.

    a phenomenon AND what has been verified by repeated
    experiments.

    And that's what Wozzie-liar tried to misrepresent.

    Science is an advanced informational system.

    That's too narrow a definition.

    That's not a definition, that's a [true] claim.

    Nope, it's a definition that Wozzie-liar is trying to
    foist unscrupulously on the debate. And it is a false
    definition and a false claim.

    And Harrie-like idiots are trying to include
    some Heavenly Force into it, because
    1)they have no slighest clue how the system is
    developed and maintained
    2)it would make them Heavenly Chosen Ones.

    That sounds like Wozzie is describing himself :-)

    I'm not the one hearing what the Nature is
    speaking

    Wozzie finally spoke the truth: he NEVER listens to
    what nature says. He just makes up baloney and pretends
    it's fact.

    and announcing that to the mortal worms in Her name,
    Harrie. It's you and your idiot gurus trying to blame
    her for your moronic mumble.

    Wozzie-idiot is the only one rumbling and mumbling and
    grumbling here. And lying his butt off, pretending
    that t' = t for the GPS somehow disagrees with relativity
    when, in fact, it was relativity that allowed t' = t
    in the first place. Wozzie-liar is a fatally dishonest
    person.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 17:03:52 2024
    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 15:41, Python pisze:
    Le 18/06/2024 à 15:09, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 14:46, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 11:01, Richard Hachel pisze:

    Le 18/06/2024 à 06:07, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Neither is this an argument, counter or otherwise.  Science is NOT >>>> > > based on what is said or written.  It is based on whether the
    analysis agrees with what occurs, i.e., the outcomes of
    experiments.
    This is science as you imagine it.
    This is not always true. We must not neglect the human aspect.

    Do you mean [gasp!] that scientists would LIE about their experiments?

    Of course they do. Your moronic religion
    is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary
    mortal worms - but only such an idiot as
    you are can believe that.


    What about Dr. Hachel who never does any experiments, but lies about
    them anyway?

    Especially when it comes to theoretical science or medical science
    where you can either hide because it's embarrassing, or lie to make
    money.

    I don't know any rich theoretical physicists, nor any that hide.
    Proposing
    new ideas based upon extending present understanding is a good thing,
    IMHO,
    but proposing opinions based on fluff is not.

    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust,
    sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    -- Douglas Adams

    What is said or written is not only
    the basement, but also the only content
    of science.

    Nope.  The foundation is what has been written about

    Harrie, poor idiot, whatever is written must be written
    about something. Even such an idiot should understand
    that.

    a phenomenon AND
    what
    has been verified by repeated experiments.  Theoretical physics is not
    in
    the same category - until it has been verified - by observation and/ or
    by
    experiment.


    There are phenomena that are not exactly repeatable, subject to unknown
    factors (human or otherwise), that are another category.

    Science is an advanced informational system.

    That's too narrow a definition.

    That's not a definition, that's a [true] claim.

    And Harrie-like idiots are trying to include
    some Heavenly Force into it, because
    1)they have no slighest clue how the system is
    developed and maintained
    2)it would make them Heavenly Chosen Ones.

    That sounds like Wozzie is describing himself :-)

    I'm not the one hearing what the Nature is
    speaking and announcing that to the mortal
    worms in Her name, Harrie. It's you and
    your idiot gurus trying to blame her for
    your moronic mumble.

    Come on Wozniak! Physics can be taught to people
    not involved in the field quite successfully.

    Come on, Python. It could be - before your
    idiot guru arose with his inconsistent mumble.


    It
    is not about being superior to "ordinary moral
    worms"

    Yes, it is. It always was, even beforee your
    idiot guru arose with his inconsistent mumble.
    Weren't the physicist the Chosen Ones - Those, Who
    Nature Itself Is Speaking To? Weren't they
    announcing Laws in Her name? Weren't they
    The Priests of a superhuman Higher Force?


    There is nothing "superior" about spending his or
    her own time time in studying and practicing a specific field.

    Of course there is nothing and only idiots
    like you and your fellow idiots can believe
    there is. Particularly in studying not-even
    consistent mumble of an insane crazie.



    Given the amount of utterly stupid garbage you've posted here,
    including in your alleged field of "information theory",
    where you also are a joke, I guess that you've spend
    most of your time rubbing your own ass.

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 15:21:13 2024
    Le 18/06/2024 à 14:46, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
    Do you mean [gasp!] that scientists would LIE about their experiments?
    What about Dr. Hachel who never does any experiments, but lies about
    them anyway?

    No, of course. It would never occur to anyone to contradict the results
    of well-conducted experiments.
    That's not what I said yet.
    I'm going to have to pre-type the sentence "That's not what I said" on my computer, because I have to write it down right now.

    R.H.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 15:34:17 2024
    Le 18/06/2024 à 14:46, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    I don't know any rich theoretical physicists, nor any that hide.
    Proposing
    new ideas based upon extending present understanding is a good thing,
    IMHO,
    but proposing opinions based on fluff is not.

    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    -- Douglas Adams

    You're mixing it up, and in doing so you're proving right those scientists
    who humbly said: "There is something wrong with the theory of relativity
    and quantum theories, but one day everything will become clearer. we just
    need a man crazy enough to give us the ideas of a madman.”
    Likewise, in antiquity, strange and unexplained things were noticed. But
    it took crazy people to say that it was because we were "stuck" on a large
    ball of cooled lava which was spinning around a large lantern, itself lost
    in billions of thousands of lanterns of the same kind.
    These crazy people, at the time, we interned them.
    Ditto if, barely 80 years ago, we would have said to someone in
    twenty-five years, you will attend in your armchair and in color, the
    World Cup final between Italy and Brazil, in Mexico , with comments from
    the stadium.
    It is difficult to judge follies without studying them at least a little.
    There are common follies, and brilliant follies.
    One of the problems of our time, and of other times for that matter, is
    that we DON'T KNOW how to differentiate them. Artificial intelligence will perhaps achieve this, but even there, it is not a cakewalk in theoretical physics (artificial intelligence confuses everything and says anything).

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 17:26:34 2024
    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 15:53, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 14:46, gharnagel pisze:

    Do you mean [gasp!] that scientists would LIE about their
    experiments?

    Of course they do.

    Says the congenital liar :-))

    Wozzie believes scientists are as dishonest as he is.

    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms.
    But only such an idiot as you are can believe that.



    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms

    Wozzie's weaknesses are evident.  He judges the scientific world
    by his own foibles, but he conveniently forgets that science works
    by verification

    Only such an idiot, again, can believe such
    an absurd lie. Science is an informational
    system, VERY advanced, VERY complicated
    and for sure too complicated for demented
    DK cranks from completely different domain.


    Only such an idiot as Wozzie-fool believes he himself has the keys
    of truth and justice.

    Unfortunately, I don't. Still I have years
    of experience with informational systems
    like science is, and you have only next to
    infinite arrogance of a DK idiot.






    I don't know any rich theoretical physicists, nor any that hide.
    Proposing
    new ideas based upon extending present understanding is a good thing,
    IMHO,
    but proposing opinions based on fluff is not.
    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, >> > sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    -- Douglas Adams
    What is said or written is not only
    the basement, but also the only content
    of science.
    Nope.  The foundation is what has been written about

    Harrie, poor idiot, whatever is written must be written
    about something. Even such an idiot should understand
    that.

    Wozzie-liar tries to take words out of context to justify

    To justify that you're a complete idiot
    mumbling, that the foundation of science
    is not about what is written - because
    it's about what is written about[something]


    Science is an advanced informational system.
    That's too narrow a definition.

    That's not a definition, that's a [true] claim.

    Nope, it's a definition


    Nope, poor idiot Harrie simply doesn't know
    what a definition is. No surprise, of course.

    Wozzie finally spoke the truth:  he NEVER listens to
    what nature says.

    And that's because for those billions of years
    it has never said a word. Your idiot gurus
    simply have fabricated that - like other religious
    maniacs have fabricated gods speaking to them.



    and announcing that to the mortal worms in Her name,
    Harrie. It's you and your idiot gurus trying to blame
    her for your moronic mumble.

    Wozzie-idiot is the only one rumbling and mumbling and
    grumbling here.  And lying his butt off, pretending


    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barkingand spitting. But you'll do what you
    can for your moronic church - that's what
    it trains its doggies for, after all.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 18:06:38 2024
    Maciej Wozniak babbled:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 15:53, gharnagel pisze:

    Wozzie believes scientists are as dishonest as he is.

    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms.
    But only such an idiot as you are can believe that.

    Repeating lies doesn't make them true.

    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms

    Wozzie seems to forget that he already posted this. Demented.

    Wozzie's weaknesses are evident.  He judges the scientific world
    by his own foibles, but he conveniently forgets that science works
    by verification

    Only such an idiot, again, can believe such
    an absurd lie.

    Why does Wozzie always talk about himself?

    Science is an informational system, VERY
    advanced, VERY complicated and for sure too
    complicated for demented DK cranks

    like Wozzie-fool.

    Only such an idiot as Wozzie-fool believes
    he himself has the keys of truth and justice.

    Unfortunately, I don't.

    Then stop acting like you do.

    Still I have years of experience with informational
    systems

    and I have years of experience with physics, engineering
    and mathematics

    like science is,

    The problem with Wozzie is that he's like a man with a
    hammer who thinks that every problem is a nail.

    and you have only next to infinite arrogance of a
    DK idiot.

    Wozzie is demeaning himself again.

    Wozzie-liar tries to take words out of context to justify

    To justify that you're a complete idiot
    mumbling, that the foundation of science
    is not about what is written - because
    it's about what is written about[something]

    Wozzie isn't making sense, as usual.

    Science is an advanced informational system.
    That's too narrow a definition.

    That's not a definition, that's a [true] claim.

    Nope, it's a definition

    Nope, poor idiot Harrie simply doesn't know
    what a definition is. No surprise, of course.

    Wozzie-fool pontificates a bull-poop definition for
    science, then claims it's not a definition. :-))

    Wozzie finally spoke the truth:  he NEVER listens to
    what nature says.

    And that's because for those billions of years
    it has never said a word.

    Au contraire. Only those who listen aren't so arrogant
    as Wozzie-pompous.

    Your idiot gurus simply have fabricated that - like
    other religious maniacs have fabricated gods speaking
    to them.

    Wozzie believes such hokum because he's deaf to nature.

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,

    Wozzie-delusional prevaricates again.

    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barkingand spitting. But you'll do what you
    can for your moronic church - that's what
    it trains its doggies for, after all.

    Wozzie is too self-absorbed to realize that
    he is the one barking and spitting from the
    pulpit of his own personal church-of-one :-))

    He ignores the music of the cosmos to dwell in
    his self-created hades.

    “We are only as blind as we want to be.” – Maya Angelou

    But I forgive him.

    "Sometimes, the first step towards forgiveness is realizing
    the other person was born an idiot." -- Anonymous

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  • From Paul B. Andersen@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 18 19:24:07 2024
    Den 18.06.2024 17:21, skrev Richard Hachel:

    I'm going to have to pre-type the sentence "That's not what I said" on
    my computer, because I have to write it down right now.

    R.H.

    Richard, what about this statement of yours:

    Den 01.06.2024 14:50, skrev Richard Hachel:
    We know the famous example of Doctor Hachel (that's me) entitled "the traveler of Tau Ceti".

    Doctor Hachel, who is not an idiot (a doctorate, three Nobel prizes).
    Is this something you never said, or did you say it, but lied?

    Please answer my question:

    Did you lie when you claimed to have a doctorate and three Nobel prizes?

    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 19 00:35:36 2024
    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 20:06, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak babbled:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 15:53, gharnagel pisze:

    Wozzie believes scientists are as dishonest as he is.

    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms.
    But only such an idiot as you are can believe that.

    Repeating lies doesn't make them true.

    Too bad for you, your Shit, your idiot gurus
    and your lies of nature itself speaking to you.


    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms

    Wozzie seems to forget that he already posted this.  Demented.

    No I didn't. Lying and slandering.


    Wozzie's weaknesses are evident.  He judges the scientific world
    by his own foibles, but he conveniently forgets that science works
    by verification

    Only such an idiot, again, can believe such
    an absurd lie.

    Why does Wozzie always talk about himself?

    I'm not. I don't believe these absurd lies
    of youre moronic religion at all.


    Science is an informational system, VERY
    advanced, VERY complicated and for sure too
    complicated for demented DK cranks

    like Wozzie-fool.

    Only such an idiot as Wozzie-fool believes
    he himself has the keys of truth and justice.

    Unfortunately, I don't.

    Then stop acting like you do.

    Still I have years of experience with informational
    systems

    and I have years of experience with physics, engineering
    and mathematics

    Science is neither physical nor mathematical
    nor engineering construct, however. You're only
    speaking about it with your absurd arrogance -
    because you are a DK idiot.


    like science is,

    The problem with Wozzie is that he's like a man with a
    hammer who thinks that every problem is a nail.


    No, the problem is that apart of barking,
    lies, slanders Harrie has nothing to say
    in the defence of his absurd beliefs.



    To justify that you're a complete idiot
    mumbling, that the foundation of science
    is not about what is written - because
    it's about what is written about[something]

    Wozzie isn't making sense, as usual.

    And you're, as usual, a complete idiot
    mumbling, that the foundation of science
    is not about what is written - because
    it's about what is written about[something]


    Science is an advanced informational system.
    That's too narrow a definition.

    That's not a definition, that's a [true] claim.
    Nope, it's a definition

    Nope, poor idiot Harrie simply doesn't know
    what a definition is. No surprise, of course.

    Wozzie-fool pontificates a bull-poop definition for
    science, then claims it's not a definition. :-))

    And it's not. Poor idiot Harrie simply doesn't know
    what a definition is. No surprise, of course.


    Wozzie finally spoke the truth:  he NEVER listens to
    what nature says.

    And that's because for those billions of years
    it has never said a word.

    Au contraire.  Only those who listen aren't so arrogant
    as Wozzie-pompous.

    Repeating those absurd lies won't make them true.
    Sorry, trash.
    Your idiot gurus simply have fabricated that - like
    other religious maniacs have fabricated gods speaking
    to them.

    He ignores the music of the cosmos to dwell in
    his self-created hades.

    It's not any music of cosmos, it's just a song
    of a bunch of idiots.

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  • From Moody Slootmaekers Hong@21:1/5 to Paul B. Andersen on Wed Jun 19 14:36:50 2024
    Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 18.06.2024 17:21, skrev Richard Hachel:
    I'm going to have to pre-type the sentence "That's not what I said" on
    my computer, because I have to write it down right now.
    Den 01.06.2024 14:50, skrev Richard Hachel:
    We know the famous example of Doctor Hachel (that's me) entitled "the
    traveler of Tau Ceti".
    Doctor Hachel, who is not an idiot (a doctorate, three Nobel prizes).
    Is this something you never said, or did you say it, but lied?
    Please answer my question:
    Did you lie when you claimed to have a doctorate and three Nobel prizes?

    i digest some food

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Wed Jun 19 16:00:16 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 20:06, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak babbled:

    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms.
    But only such an idiot as you are can believe that.

    Repeating lies doesn't make them true.

    Too bad for you, your Shit, your idiot gurus
    and your lies of nature itself speaking to you.

    Says the inveterate liar :-))

    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are
    superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms

    Wozzie seems to forget that he already posted this.  Demented.

    No I didn't.

    "Didn't" what? Forget? posted? Wozzie is getting velutinous.

    Lying and slandering.

    Says the congentital liar and slanderer :-))

    Wozzie's weaknesses are evident.  He judges the scientific world
    by his own foibles, but he conveniently forgets that science
    works
    by verification

    Only such an idiot, again, can believe such
    an absurd lie.

    Why does Wozzie always talk about himself?

    I'm not.

    Yeah, you are. You're so fuzzy-brained you don't even realize it.

    I don't believe these absurd lies
    of youre moronic religion at all.

    Wozzie is just SO certain about his beliefs :-))

    "Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. --
    Voltaire

    “In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd.”
    – Miguel de Cervantes

    “The most absurd and reckless aspirations have sometimes led to extraordinary success.” -- Luc de Clapiers

    “Only those who attempt the absurd will achieve the impossible. I think
    it's
    in my basement... let me go upstairs and check.” – M. C. Escher

    Science is an informational system, VERY
    advanced, VERY complicated and for sure too
    complicated for demented DK cranks

    like Wozzie-fool.

    Ah, Wozzie agrees that he is a demented DK crank. That's progress.

    Only such an idiot as Wozzie-fool believes
    he himself has the keys of truth and justice.

    Unfortunately, I don't.

    Then stop acting like you do.

    Wozzie is just SO certain that his demented beliefs are true.

    Still I have years of experience with informational
    systems

    and I have years of experience with physics, engineering
    and mathematics

    Science is neither physical nor mathematical
    nor engineering construct,

    An idiot something like Wozzie posted on the old Yahoo board
    claiming that he reduced "relativists" to silence with his
    arguments against relativity. He also claimed that mathematics
    was the "king of science" :-))

    Now we have Wozzie-stupe claiming that physics isn't physical :-))
    And even more stupid that it's not mathematical.
    Wozzie is such a silly fool!

    however. You're only speaking about it with your absurd arrogance -
    because you are a DK idiot.

    Says the perfect example an arrogant ass.


    The problem with Wozzie is that he's like a man with a
    hammer who thinks that every problem is a nail.

    No, the problem is that apart of barking, lies, slanders

    Says the perfect example of barking, lying and slandering.

    Harrie has nothing to say in the defence of his absurd beliefs.

    Says Wozzie who holds indefensible absurd beliefs.

    To justify that you're a complete idiot
    mumbling, that the foundation of science
    is not about what is written - because
    it's about what is written about[something]

    Wozzie isn't making sense, as usual.

    And you're, as usual, a complete idiot
    mumbling, that the foundation of science
    is not about what is written - because
    it's about what is written about[something]

    Oh, my! More lying and slandering from Wozzie-fool who
    believes his indefensible absurd beliefs to be absolute
    truth ?-))

    Nope, poor idiot Harrie simply doesn't know
    what a definition is. No surprise, of course.

    Wozzie-fool pontificates a bull-poop definition for
    science, then claims it's not a definition. :-))

    And it's not. Poor idiot Harrie simply doesn't know
    what a definition is. No surprise, of course.

    "the action or the power of describing, explaining, or
    making definite and clear"

    So Wozzie admits he wasn't describing science or making
    a clear statement about science. Exactly what I've been
    saying: Wozzie is a fuzzy-brained incompoop.

    Wozzie finally spoke the truth:  he NEVER listens to
    what nature says.

    And that's because for those billions of years
    it has never said a word.

    Au contraire.  Only those who listen aren't so arrogant
    as Wozzie-pompous.

    Sorry, trash.
    Your idiot gurus simply have fabricated that - like
    other religious maniacs have fabricated gods speaking
    to them.

    “And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by
    those who could not hear the music.” --- Friedrich Nietzsche

    The problem is that Wozzie is deaf to reality.

    He ignores the music of the cosmos to dwell in
    his self-created hades.

    It's not any music of cosmos, it's just a song
    of a bunch of idiots.

    "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.
    -- Socrates

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 19 18:50:08 2024
    W dniu 19.06.2024 o 18:00, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 18.06.2024 o 20:06, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak babbled:

    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms.
    But only such an idiot as you are can believe that.
    Repeating lies doesn't make them true.

    Too bad for you, your Shit, your idiot gurus
    and your lies of nature itself speaking to you.

    Says the inveterate liar :-))

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.

    Your moronic religion is persuading you that they are
    superhuman
    demigods free of the weaknesses of ordinary mortal worms
    Wozzie seems to forget that he already posted this.  Demented.

    No I didn't.

    "Didn't" what?  Forget? posted?  Wozzie is getting velutinous.

    Didn't forget.

    Only such an idiot, again, can believe such
    an absurd lie.
    Why does Wozzie always talk about himself?

    I'm not.

    Yeah, you are.  You're so fuzzy-brained you don't even realize it.

    I don't believe these absurd lies
    of youre moronic religion at all.

    Wozzie is just SO certain about his beliefs :-))

    That's why they are beliefs.


    "Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. --
    Voltaire

    Said well known for his lack of certainty
    fanatic idiot,



    Science is an informational system, VERY
    advanced, VERY complicated and for sure too
    complicated for demented DK cranks
    like Wozzie-fool.

    Ah, Wozzie agrees that he is a demented DK crank.

    No, I don't. You've manipulated with this quoting.
    As expected from a piece of relativistic shit,
    of course.


      That's progress.

    Only such an idiot as Wozzie-fool believes
    he himself has the keys of truth and justice.

    Unfortunately, I don't.
    Then stop acting like you do.

    Wozzie is just SO certain that his demented beliefs are true.

    Still I have years of experience with informational
    systems
    and I have years of experience with physics, engineering
    and mathematics

    Science is neither physical nor mathematical
    nor engineering construct,

    An idiot something like Wozzie posted on the old Yahoo board
    claiming that he reduced "relativists" to silence with his
    arguments against relativity.  He also claimed that mathematics
    was the "king of science" :-))

    Now we have Wozzie-stupe claiming that physics isn't physical :-))

    Do you claim it is? What is its mass then,
    poor halfbrain?


    And even more stupid that it's not mathematical.
    Wozzie is such a silly fool!

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.


    however. You're only speaking about it with your absurd arrogance -
    because you are a DK idiot.

    Says the perfect example an arrogant ass.

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.



    The problem with Wozzie is that he's like a man with a
    hammer who thinks that every problem is a nail.

    No, the problem is that apart of barking, lies, slanders

    Says the perfect example of barking, lying and slandering.

    Harrie has nothing to say in the defence of his absurd beliefs.

    Says Wozzie who holds indefensible absurd beliefs.

    To justify that you're a complete idiot
    mumbling, that the foundation of science
    is not about what is written - because
    it's about what is written about[something]
    Wozzie isn't making sense, as usual.

    And you're, as usual, a complete idiot
    mumbling, that the foundation of science
    is not about what is written - because
    it's about what is written about[something]

    Oh, my!  More lying and slandering from Wozzie-fool who

    Anyone can check, your own words, poor trash.
    Aty least you're ashamed.

    And it's not.  Poor idiot Harrie simply doesn't know
    what a definition is. No surprise, of course.

    "the action or the power of describing, explaining, or
    making definite and clear"

    So Wozzie admits

    No I don't. A lie, again, as expected from a piece
    of relativistic shit.

    Sorry, trash.
    Your idiot gurus simply have fabricated that - like
    other religious maniacs have fabricated gods speaking
    to them.

    “And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by
    those who could not hear the music.” --- Friedrich Nietzsche

    Bullshit, anyone can (almost always) recognize dancing
    hearing music or not. I guess - even an idiot like
    you can.




    The problem is that Wozzie is deaf to reality.

    It's not me announcing GPS clocks not real
    because they don't want to fit some mad
    delusions of some idiot guru.




    He ignores the music of the cosmos to dwell in
    his self-created hades.

    It's not any music of cosmos, it's just a song
    of a bunch of idiots.

    "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.
    -- Socrates

    And that's why you and your fellow idiots
    use it so often.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Wed Jun 19 18:01:05 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 19.06.2024 o 18:00, gharnagel pisze:

    Wozzie is just SO certain about his beliefs :-))

    That's why they are beliefs.

    ???

    So Wozzie believes that if he believes something it
    becomes true? Demented.

    "Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. --
    Voltaire

    Said well known for his lack of certainty
    fanatic idiot,

    ???

    So what is demented Wozzie trying to say now?

    Ah, Wozzie agrees that he is a demented DK crank.

    No, I don't. You've manipulated with this quoting.
    As expected from a piece of relativistic shit,
    of course.

    Not at all. Using the age-old adage that silence
    implies consent, one may reasonably conclude that
    since Wozzie didn't respond to my statement, he agreed
    with what I said.

    Wozzie is just SO certain that his demented beliefs are true.

    So Wozzie agrees that his beliefs are demented.

    Science is neither physical nor mathematical
    nor engineering construct,

    An idiot something like Wozzie posted on the old Yahoo board
    claiming that he reduced "relativists" to silence with his
    arguments against relativity.  He also claimed that mathematics
    was the "king of science" :-))

    Now we have Wozzie-stupe claiming that physics isn't physical :-))

    Do you claim it is? What is its mass then,
    poor halfbrain?

    Does information have energy? Can you store it without storing
    energy? Does thought have energy?

    I guess Wozzie will now try to prevaricate again and assert that
    energy doesn't have mass.

    Wozzie is lying again. He is asserting that something physical MUST
    have mass. Light doesn't have mass, so I guess he spends all his
    time in the dark.

    And even more stupid that it's not mathematical.
    Wozzie is such a silly fool!

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,

    And Wozzie's lies have mass, too (actually, without the m).
    Delusional Wozzie proved that 1 = 2 and concluded that relativity
    is inconsistent :-)

    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering.

    Wozzie believes he can get away with lying and
    slandering with no consequences. His parents
    must have failed at raising him to be an honest
    person. Well, he now needs to learn that what
    goes around comes around. Of course, he's been
    getting this copiously, but he never learns.

    But you'll do what you can for your moronic
    church - that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.

    I'm just trying to save a lost soul from the flames
    of perdition.

    however. You're only speaking about it with
    your absurd arrogance -
    because you are a DK idiot.

    Says the perfect example an arrogant ass.

    See, trash

    Oh, my, more slander from the arrogant ass :-))

    - I've proven the idiocies of your insane guru
    to be not even consistent,

    Repeating lies doesn't make them true. Didn't his
    parents wash his mouth out with soap when he told
    lies?

    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.

    Repeating lies doesn't make them true.

    And you're, as usual, a complete idiot
    mumbling, that the foundation of science
    is not about what is written - because
    it's about what is written about[something]

    Oh, my!  More lying and slandering from Wozzie-fool who

    Anyone can check, your own words, poor trash.
    Aty least you're ashamed.

    But Wozzie keeps lying without shame.

    And it's not.  Poor idiot Harrie simply doesn't know
    what a definition is. No surprise, of course.

    "the action or the power of describing, explaining, or
    making definite and clear"

    So Wozzie admits

    No I don't. A lie, again, as expected from a piece
    of relativistic shit.

    :-)) Wozzie-liar lies again.

    And he had to delete what he admitted to, which proves his
    basic dishonesty.

    Sorry, trash.
    Your idiot gurus simply have fabricated that - like
    other religious maniacs have fabricated gods speaking
    to them.

    “And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by
    those who could not hear the music.” --- Friedrich Nietzsche

    Bullshit, anyone can (almost always) recognize dancing
    hearing music or not. I guess - even an idiot like
    you can.

    But Wozzie-fool can't. What's below idiot? vegetable?

    The problem is that Wozzie is deaf to reality.

    It's not me announcing GPS clocks not real
    because they don't want to fit some mad
    delusions of some idiot guru.

    Yes, it's delusional Wozzie, tilting at windmills again.
    Keep it up, Wozzie, they might be giants.

    He ignores the music of the cosmos to dwell in
    his self-created hades.

    It's not any music of cosmos, it's just a song
    of a bunch of idiots.

    "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.
    -- Socrates

    And that's why you and your fellow idiots
    use it so often.

    Wozzie only gets "slander" when he lies and slanders. His parents
    never taught him how to be a decent human being. Most people
    teach themselves many things that they lack, but Wozzie-moron is
    unteachable.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 19 21:09:33 2024
    W dniu 19.06.2024 o 20:01, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 19.06.2024 o 18:00, gharnagel pisze:

    Wozzie is just SO certain about his beliefs :-))

    That's why they are beliefs.

    ???

    So Wozzie believes that if he believes something it
    becomes true?  Demented.

    Said nothing like that, still - that's how
    thinking works . What were you talking about
    absurds in the last post, poor halfbrain?

    As said - you have completely no clue about that.
    You only have the arrogance of a DK idiot.

    "Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. --
    Voltaire

    Said well known for his lack of certainty
    fanatic idiot,

    ???

    So what is demented Wozzie trying to say now?

    That your lack of certainty is well known here.


    Ah, Wozzie agrees that he is a demented DK crank.

    No, I don't. You've manipulated with this quoting.
    As expected from a piece of relativistic shit,
    of course.

    Not at all.

    Yes. At least you're ashamed.



    Wozzie is just SO certain that his demented beliefs are true.

    So Wozzie agrees that his beliefs are demented.

    No I don't. Poor Harrie is lying and slandering again, as
    expected from a piece of relativistic shit.

    ence is neither physical nor mathematical
    nor engineering construct,
    An idiot something like Wozzie posted on the old Yahoo board
    claiming that he reduced "relativists" to silence with his
    arguments against relativity.  He also claimed that mathematics
    was the "king of science" :-))
    Now we have Wozzie-stupe claiming that physics isn't physical :-))

    Do you claim it is? What is its mass then,
    poor halfbrain?

    Does information have energy?

    No answer, just desperate try to change the
    subject. And usual lies and slanders. Of course.



    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,

    And Wozzie's lies have mass , too (actually, without the m).
    Delusional Wozzie proved that 1 = 2 and concluded that relativity
    is inconsistent :-)

    Not quite, but I proved that in the physics of your
    idiot guru 1 = 2 and concluded that the physics
    of your idiot guru is inconsistent :-)


    Wozzie believes he can get away with lying and
    slandering with no consequences.  His parents


    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.



    - I've proven the idiocies of your insane guru
    to be not even consistent,

    Repeating lies doesn't make them true.


    To bad for you, your beloved Shit, your idiot
    gurus and your absurd lies of nature itself speaking
    to you.


    And it's not.  Poor idiot Harrie simply doesn't know
    what a definition is. No surprise, of course.
    "the action or the power of describing, explaining, or
    making definite and clear"
    So Wozzie admits

    No I don't. A lie, again, as expected from a piece
    of relativistic shit.

    :-))  Wozzie-liar lies again.

    And he had to delete what he admitted to, which proves his
    basic dishonesty.

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.



    Sorry, trash.
    Your idiot gurus simply have fabricated that - like
    other religious maniacs have fabricated gods speaking
    to them.
    “And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by
    those who could not hear the music.” --- Friedrich Nietzsche

    Bullshit, anyone can (almost always) recognize dancing
    hearing music or not. I guess - even an idiot like
    you can.

    But Wozzie-fool can't.

    Yes, I (usually) can. A lie, again, as
    expected from a piece of relativistic shit.


    It's not me announcing GPS clocks not real
    because they don't want to fit some mad
    delusions of some idiot guru.

    Yes, it's delusional Wozzie, tilting at windmills again.
    Keep it up, Wozzie, they might be giants.


    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.



    He ignores the music of the cosmos to dwell in
    his self-created hades.

    It's not any music of cosmos, it's just a song
    of a bunch of idiots.
    "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers.
    -- Socrates

    And that's why you and your fellow idiots
    use it so often.

    Wozzie only gets "slander" when he lies and slanders.  His parents
    never taught him how to be a decent human being.  Most people
    teach themselves many things that they lack, but Wozzie-moron is
    unteachable.


    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 19 22:09:11 2024
    Wozzie posts nothing but repetitions and lies.
    He claims to be an information whatsit, claims science is
    information, then denies a major part of science. He is
    a major hypocrite. Demented!

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 20 06:15:11 2024
    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 00:09, gharnagel pisze:
    Wozzie posts nothing but repetitions and lies.
    He claims to be an information whatsit, claims science is
    information, then denies a major part of science.

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering. But you'll
    do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for,
    after all.


    And - neither your absurd Shit nor even
    whole of your moronic physics is a "major
    part of science".
    Sorry, trash.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 20 15:14:54 2024
    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 14:26, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 00:09, gharnagel pisze:

    Wozzie posts nothing but repetitions and lies.
    He claims to be an information whatsit, claims science is
    information, then denies a major part of science.
    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,

    Just more repetitions and lies.  That's all Wozzie has.  Why
    doesn't he post his "proof" of give a link to it?

    Just more repetitions and lies. That's all Harrie has.
    Posted the proof dosens of times here and will post
    it many times more, be sure, trash.



    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering.

    Says the repetitious barker, liar and slanderer :-)

    But you'll do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for, after all.

    I can actually "prove" that the LT is correct in its domain
    of applicability based on actual [gasp!] information.

    I'm sure you can prove LT are correct where they
    are correct; evan such an idiot should be able to
    manage such a task.
    Have nothing against Lorentz and his transformations,
    anyway.




    And - neither your absurd Shit nor even
    whole of your moronic physics is a "major
    part of science".
    Sorry, trash.

    And all Wozzie has is profanity, lying and slander.  And
    inconsistency:  He says physics is information

    I do. Even such a piece of lying shit as you
    are can't lie always, of course.
    I do and it is. Samely as whole science is.
    And thus, none of your noble specializations could
    mark you as an invincible expert about it.
    You've just self-appointed yourself for that,
    as expected from a DK idiot.



    and then
    denies the information of physics.

    Of course. What is inconsistent in denying
    some information concocted by some religious
    maniacs?

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Thu Jun 20 12:26:52 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 00:09, gharnagel pisze:

    Wozzie posts nothing but repetitions and lies.
    He claims to be an information whatsit, claims science is
    information, then denies a major part of science.

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,

    Just more repetitions and lies. That's all Wozzie has. Why
    doesn't he post his "proof" of give a link to it?

    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering.

    Says the repetitious barker, liar and slanderer :-)

    But you'll do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for, after all.

    I can actually "prove" that the LT is correct in its domain
    of applicability based on actual [gasp!] information.

    And - neither your absurd Shit nor even
    whole of your moronic physics is a "major
    part of science".
    Sorry, trash.

    And all Wozzie has is profanity, lying and slander. And
    inconsistency: He says physics is information and then
    denies the information of physics. He only accepts
    information that agrees with his prejudices.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Thu Jun 20 13:45:18 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 14:26, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 00:09, gharnagel pisze:

    Wozzie posts nothing but repetitions and lies.
    He claims to be an information whatsit, claims science is
    information, then denies a major part of science.

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,

    Just more repetitions and lies.  That's all Wozzie has.  Why
    doesn't he post his "proof" of give a link to it?

    Just more repetitions and lies. That's all Harrie has.
    Posted the proof dosens of times here and will post
    it many times more, be sure, trash.

    Wozzie is delusional, pretending he has posted "proofs" when
    he has done nothing of the sort. His t' = t nonsense is not
    proof of anything except that he is dishonest.

    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering.

    Says the repetitious barker, liar and slanderer :-)

    Wozzie agrees that he is a barker, liar and slanderer since he
    hasn't denied it.

    But you'll do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for, after all.

    I can actually "prove" that the LT is correct in its domain
    of applicability based on actual [gasp!] information.

    I'm sure you can prove LT are correct where they
    are correct; evan such an idiot should be able to
    manage such a task.
    Have nothing against Lorentz and his transformations,
    anyway.

    They demonstrate that t' <> t, which explodes Wozzie's "proof."
    So he has just admitted that he lied.

    And - neither your absurd Shit nor even
    whole of your moronic physics is a "major
    part of science".
    Sorry, trash.

    And all Wozzie has is profanity, lying and slander.  And
    inconsistency:  He says physics is information

    I do. Even such a piece of lying shit as you
    are can't lie always, of course.

    All Wozzie has is excrement. lying and denigration.

    I do and it is.

    Only partly. A whole body of information.

    Samely as whole science is.

    That's where Wozzie goes off the rails. He ignores the
    most important part.

    And thus, none of your noble specializations could
    mark you as an invincible expert about it.
    You've just self-appointed yourself for that,
    as expected from a DK idiot.


    Pot, kettle black :-)

    and then denies the information of physics.

    Of course. What is inconsistent in denying
    some information concocted by some religious
    maniacs?


    Wozzie makes a biased judgment on the source of the
    information rather than the information itself.

    He says he has no problem with the LT, so does he
    accept that c + v = c?
    limit u' (as u > c) = (u + v)/(1 + uv/c^2) = c

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 20 14:43:22 2024
    Le 20/06/2024 à 15:45, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Of course. What is inconsistent in denying
    some information concocted by some religious
    maniacs?


    Wozzie makes a biased judgment on the source of the
    information rather than the information itself.

    He says he has no problem with the LT, so does he
    accept that c + v = c?
    limit u' (as u > c) = (u + v)/(1 + uv/c^2) = c

    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?W_QQ56yB5nmh9TR2vbwR9IUqJbA@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    In all cases, Dr. Hachel's equation relating to the general addition of relativistic speeds, the resulting speed cannot exceed c.

    Replace U with c.
    We have: U'=c

    Replace V with c.
    We have: U'=c

    The observable speed of light cannot therefore exceed c in any frame of reference.

    In no frame of reference can particles or laws of physics exceed c.

    That doesn't stop a few moronic physicists from setting rabbit traps to
    try to catch tachions.

    They look for round squares and scarlet white shades.

    This makes the good doctor Hachel laugh: “They can scratch for a long time.”


    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 20 16:27:20 2024
    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 15:45, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 14:26, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 00:09, gharnagel pisze:

    Wozzie posts nothing but repetitions and lies.
    He claims to be an information whatsit, claims science is
    information, then denies a major part of science.

    See, trash - I've proven the idiocies
    of your insane guru to be not even consistent,
    Just more repetitions and lies.  That's all Wozzie has.  Why
    doesn't he post his "proof" of give a link to it?

    Just more repetitions and lies.  That's all Harrie has.
    Posted the proof dosens of times here and will post
    it many times more, be sure, trash.

    Wozzie is delusional, pretending he has posted "proofs" when

    OK, trash - an observer going with c/2 through
    Solar system is going to measure the length of
    a day. What is the prediction of the physics
    of your idiot guru for the result? No precision
    better than 1% needed.



    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering.
    Says the repetitious barker, liar and slanderer :-)

    Wozzie agrees that he is a barker, liar and slanderer since he


    No, I don't. You'rea barker, liar and slanderer,
    but that was obvious before.



    But you'll do what you can for your moronic church -
    that's what it trains its doggies for, after all.
    I can actually "prove" that the LT is correct in its domain
    of applicability based on actual [gasp!] information.

    I'm sure you can prove LT are correct where they
    are correct; evan such an idiot should be able to
    manage such a task.
    Have nothing against Lorentz and his transformations,
    anyway.

    They demonstrate that t' <> t

    Nope, they need the interpretation of a relativistic
    idiot for that.



    , which explodes Wozzie's "proof."
    So he has just admitted that he lied.

    No,I didn't. Even such a piece of lying
    shit as Harrie is can't lie 100% of time,
    but it still can lie most of the time.

    I do and it is.

    Only partly.  A whole body of information.

    Samely as whole science is.

    That's where Wozzie goes off the rails.  He ignores the
    most important part.

    And thus, none of your noble specializations could
    mark you as an  invincible expert about it.
    You've just self-appointed yourself for that,
    as expected from a DK idiot.


    Pot, kettle black :-)

    I'm actually an information engineer, poor
    trash. That's the specialization of dealing
    with information and its various constructs.
    No way I'm an invincible expert, of course...
    we could discuss, if you weren't such an
    arrogant not-even-layman idiot.




    and then denies the information of physics.

    Of course. What is inconsistent in denying
    some information concocted by some religious
    maniacs?


    Wozzie makes a biased judgment on the source of the
    information rather than the information itself.

    Nope. Another slander from a lying piece of
    shit.

    He says he has no problem with the LT, so does he
    accept that c + v = c?

    Tell me better, poor trash, whether you accept
    that Lorentz has prepared his transformations for
    his own ether theory, not for The Shit of your
    idiot guru?

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Thu Jun 20 16:01:28 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 15:45, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    Just more repetitions and lies.  That's all Harrie has.
    Posted the proof dosens of times here and will post
    it many times more, be sure, trash.

    Wozzie is delusional, pretending he has posted "proofs" when

    OK, trash - an observer going with c/2 through
    Solar system is going to measure the length of
    a day. What is the prediction of the physics
    of your idiot guru for the result? No precision
    better than 1% needed.

    A "day"? What is a "day"? The observer is in the solar system
    and his speed is c/2. With respect to what? Are we talking
    about a Mars day and relative to Mars, or a Jupiter day, etc.
    You leave out a ton of information, Mr. Engineer.

    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering.

    Says the repetitious barker, liar and slanderer :-)

    Wozzie agrees that he is a barker, liar and slanderer since he


    No, I don't.

    You didn't reply, so that implies you agree with what I wrote.

    You'rea barker, liar and slanderer,
    but that was obvious before.

    What's obvious is that you began the slandering and lying.
    What goes around comes around.

    I'm sure you can prove LT are correct where they
    are correct; evan such an idiot should be able to
    manage such a task.

    I doubt if you could :-)

    Have nothing against Lorentz and his transformations,
    anyway.

    They demonstrate that t' <> t

    Nope, they need the interpretation of a relativistic
    idiot for that.

    Nope. They need someone who is adept at algebra. Does that
    leave you out?

    which explodes Wozzie's "proof."
    So he has just admitted that he lied.

    No,I didn't.

    Yeah, you did. You are either demented or you're a liar.

    Even such a piece of lying
    shit as Harrie is can't lie 100% of time,
    but it still can lie most of the time.

    Wozzie lies ALL of the time. And he just did it again.
    Just like he does here by omission:

    I do and it is.

    Only partly.  A whole body of information.

    Samely as whole science is.

    That's where Wozzie goes off the rails.  He ignores the
    most important part.

    So once again Wozzie admits by default that he is off the rails.

    And thus, none of your noble specializations could
    mark you as an  invincible expert about it.
    You've just self-appointed yourself for that,
    as expected from a DK idiot.

    Pot, kettle black :-)

    I'm actually an information engineer, poor
    trash.

    One who rejects valid information that he is prejudiced against.

    That's the specialization of dealing
    with information and its various constructs.
    No way I'm an invincible expert, of course...
    we could discuss, if you weren't such an
    arrogant not-even-layman idiot.

    Nice example of his prejudice again :-))

    and then denies the information of physics.

    Of course. What is inconsistent in denying
    some information concocted by some religious
    maniacs?

    Wozzie makes a biased judgment on the source of the
    information rather than the information itself.

    Nope. Another slander from a lying piece of
    shit.


    Wozzie is in denial of his obvious character flaws.

    He says he has no problem with the LT, so does he
    accept that c + v = c?

    Tell me better, poor trash, whether you accept
    that Lorentz has prepared his transformations for
    his own ether theory, not for The Shit of your
    idiot guru?

    Ah, Wozzie won't answer the question, deflecting with an
    irrelevant question. But I'll answer anyway.

    Lorentz designed his equations, based on an ether concept,
    to describe what was actually observed in MM experiment.
    The same results were also explained by a particle theory
    of light. The same results are also explained by SR.

    So which one is correct must rely on MORE experiments
    (information) beyond the MMX. The particle theory is refuted
    by experiments showing that the speed of light is not affected
    by the motion of its source. The ether theory requires a
    medium stiffer than the stiffest material in order to propagate
    light at such a high speed, which is absurd. This leaves SR,
    which explains much more than LET without an ether.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 20 18:53:22 2024
    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 18:01, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 15:45, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    Just more repetitions and lies.  That's all Harrie has.
    Posted the proof dosens of times here and will post
    it many times more, be sure, trash.
    Wozzie is delusional, pretending he has posted "proofs" when

    OK, trash - an observer going with c/2 through
    Solar system is going to measure the length of
    a day. What is the prediction of the physics
    of your idiot guru for the result? No precision
    better than 1% needed.

    A "day"?  What is a "day"?

    A day is a day, Harrie. You're an incredible
    idiot, sure, but you've heard of days, haven't
    you?

    The observer is in the solar system
    and his speed is c/2.  With respect to what?

    To solar system, Harrie.

    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering.

    Says the repetitious barker, liar and slanderer :-)
    Wozzie agrees that he is a barker, liar and slanderer since he


    No, I don't.

    You didn't reply, so that implies you agree with what I wrote.

    No, Harrie, it doesn't. And I don't agree.


    I'm sure you can prove LT are correct where they
    are correct; evan such an idiot should be able to
    manage such a task.

    I doubt if you could :-)


    Prove that something is valid when it is valid?



    Have nothing against Lorentz and his transformations,
    anyway.
    They demonstrate that t' <> t

    Nope, they need the interpretation of a relativistic
    idiot for that.

    Nope.  They need someone who is adept at algebra.



    Does that
    leave you out?

    which explodes Wozzie's "proof."
    So he has just admitted that he lied.

    No,I didn't.

    Yeah, you did.  You are either demented or you're a liar.

    No, I didn't. You are both dementad and a liar.


    Even such a piece of lying
    shit as Harrie is can't lie 100% of time,
    but it still can lie most of the time.

    Wozzie lies ALL of the time.  And he just did it again.

    Oh, did I? You DO lie 100% of time, Harrie?


    Just like he does here by omission:

    I do and it is.
    Only partly.  A whole body of information.
    Samely as whole science is.
    That's where Wozzie goes off the rails.  He ignores the
    most important part.

    So once again Wozzie admits by default that he is off the rails.

    Once again Harrie lies.


    And thus, none of your noble specializations could
    mark you as an  invincible expert about it.
    You've just self-appointed yourself for that,
    as expected from a DK idiot.

    Pot, kettle black :-)

    I'm actually an information engineer, poor
    trash.

    One who rejects valid information that he is prejudiced against.

    One that rejects an obvious lie of a religious
    maniac insisting that The Nature itself is
    speaking to him and his idiot gurus.


    That's the specialization of dealing
    with information and its various constructs.
    No way I'm an invincible expert, of course...
    we could discuss, if you weren't such an
    arrogant not-even-layman idiot.

    Nice example of his prejudice again :-))

    Just some sad truth, Harrie.


    He says he has no problem with the LT, so does he
    accept that c + v = c?

    Tell me better, poor trash, whether you accept
    that Lorentz has prepared his transformations for
    his own  ether theory, not  for The Shit of your
    idiot guru?

    Ah, Wozzie won't answer the question, deflecting with an

    If LT were designed for an ether theory
    the "obvious" c+v=c interpretation of The
    Shit's worshippers can't be that obvios,
    don't you think, Harrie, poor halfbrain?

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Fri Jun 21 14:14:58 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 18:01, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    OK, trash - an observer going with c/2 through
    Solar system is going to measure the length of
    a day. What is the prediction of the physics
    of your idiot guru for the result? No precision
    better than 1% needed.

    A "day"?  What is a "day"?

    A day is a day, Harrie.

    No, it's not. Wozzie deleted where I explained that
    a day is different on Mars, Jupiter, etc. Since his
    observer is "going through the solar system," he
    might be a Martian or a Jovian or from Titan, etc.

    You're an incredible idiot, sure, but you've heard
    of days, haven't you?

    Wozzie is the one being an "incredible idiot." Even
    on earth there are different kinds of days: there's
    the sidereal day, for example:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_time

    and there's the solar day:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_time

    And then is Wozzie talking about day versus night?
    Wozzie's imprecise language is what is at issue here,
    but he goes directly to personal attack and crank'behavior.

    The observer is in the solar system
    and his speed is c/2.  With respect to what?

    To solar system, Harrie.

    and you can do nothing about it apart of
    barking, lying and slandering.

    Says the repetitious barker, liar and slanderer :-)
    Wozzie agrees that he is a barker, liar and slanderer since he

    No, I don't.

    You didn't reply, so that implies you agree with what I wrote.

    No, Harrie, it doesn't. And I don't agree.

    Then you should have replied. Why do you need to be prodded into
    defending yourself? Are you just a lazy bum?

    I'm sure you can prove LT are correct where they
    are correct; evan such an idiot should be able to
    manage such a task.

    I doubt if you could :-)

    Prove that something is valid when it is valid?

    Of course. How does one KNOW that it's valid unless he has some
    means of testing it?

    “What I cannot create, I do not understand." -- Richard P. Feynman

    This means, of course, that some mathematical ability is necessary
    to truly understand physics.

    "Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best
    he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and
    not make messes in the house." – Robert A. Heinlein

    Have nothing against Lorentz and his transformations,
    anyway. They demonstrate that t' <> t

    Nope, they need the interpretation of a relativistic
    idiot for that.

    Nope.  They need someone who is adept at algebra.
    Does that leave you out?

    No response. Does that mean that Wozzie is mathematically
    incompetent?

    which explodes Wozzie's "proof."
    So he has just admitted that he lied.

    No,I didn't.

    Yeah, you did.  You are either demented or you're a liar.

    No, I didn't. You are both dementad and a liar.

    I'm just an unbiased observer watching Wozzie squirm when he
    is caught asserting asserting something one moment and denying
    it the next.

    Even such a piece of lying
    shit as Harrie is can't lie 100% of time,
    but it still can lie most of the time.

    Wozzie lies ALL of the time.  And he just did it again.

    Oh, did I? You DO lie 100% of time, Harrie?

    See? Wozzie did it again! He said I lied MOST of the time
    and now he says I lie 100% of the time :-))

    I'm actually an information engineer, poor
    trash.

    One who rejects valid information that he is prejudiced against.

    One that rejects an obvious lie of a religious
    maniac insisting that The Nature itself is
    speaking to him and his idiot gurus.

    Wozzie appears to be oblivious to finer sensibilities. I speak
    metaphorically and he crassly takes it literally :-))

    And what Wozzie opines to be "an obvious lie" is not based upon
    any mathematical proof, just like all of his opinions.

    “All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
    -- Douglas Adams

    That's the specialization of dealing
    with information and its various constructs.
    No way I'm an invincible expert, of course...
    we could discuss, if you weren't such an
    arrogant not-even-layman idiot.

    Nice example of his prejudice again :-))

    Just some sad truth, Harrie.

    I'm afraid Wozzie is resistant to truth. Part of his problem
    when dealing with physics questions is that he appears to be
    mathematically incompetent.

    He says he has no problem with the LT, so does he
    accept that c + v = c?

    Tell me better, poor trash, whether you accept
    that Lorentz has prepared his transformations for
    his own  ether theory, not  for The Shit of your
    idiot guru?

    Ah, Wozzie won't answer the question, deflecting with an

    If LT were designed for an ether theory
    the "obvious" c+v=c interpretation of The
    Shit's worshippers can't be that obvios,
    don't you think, Harrie, poor halfbrain?

    Wozzie can't help himself from scatology and denigration.
    His parents never brought him up right, never washed his mouth
    out with soap when he behaved rudely.

    Anyway, his little diatribe makes no sense. He seems to believe
    that "c+v=c" is an "interpretation" rather than a mathematical
    derivation. Refer back to the quote by Heinlein.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 21 18:20:06 2024
    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 16:14, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 18:01, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    OK, trash - an observer going with c/2 through
    Solar system is going to measure the length of
    a day. What is the prediction of the physics
    of your idiot guru for the result? No precision
    better than 1% needed.
    A "day"?  What is a "day"?

    A day is a day, Harrie.

    No, it's not.  Wozzie deleted where I explained that

    Put your explaination straight into your
    dumb, fanatic ass, where it belongs.
    If I said "3 days ago" you wouldn't
    ask what I meant, would you? You're
    not THAT stupid, are you?
    You're just pretending stupider than
    you are to dodge the question. Well,
    a hint for you: how was "second"
    defined in the physics of your
    idiot guru? I mean THAT day.



    No, I don't.
    You didn't reply, so that implies you agree with what I wrote.

    No, Harrie, it doesn't. And I don't agree.

    Then you should have replied.

    Fuck you, Harrie, and fuck your opinion
    of what I should do.

    I'm sure you can prove LT are correct where they
    are correct; evan such an idiot should be able to
    manage such a task.
    I doubt if you could :-)

    Prove that something is valid when it is valid?

    Of course.  How does one KNOW that it's valid

    I don't have to know if it's valid to know
    that it is valid if/when it is valid.
    "It is valid in its apply range" is
    a simple truism, Harrie. You're an idiot
    so you don't realize that.



    which explodes Wozzie's "proof."
    So he has just admitted that he lied.

    No,I didn't.
    Yeah, you did.  You are either demented or you're a liar.

    No, I didn't. You are both dementad and a liar.

    I'm just an unbiased observer watching Wozzie squirm when he

    And then lying and slandering, as imudently
    as stupidly.

    Even such a piece of lying
    shit as Harrie is can't lie 100% of time,
    but it still can lie most of the time.
    Wozzie lies ALL of the time.  And he just did it again.

    Oh, did I? You DO lie 100% of time, Harrie?

    See?  Wozzie did it again!  He said I lied MOST of the time

    I said you don't lie 100% of time and you called me a liar...


    One that rejects an obvious lie of a religious
    maniac insisting that The Nature itself is
    speaking to him and his idiot gurus.

    Wozzie appears to be oblivious to finer sensibilities.  I speak metaphorically

    And I speak directly - you lie like a fanatic
    idiot you are.

    That's the specialization of dealing
    with information and its various constructs.
    No way I'm an invincible expert, of course...
    we could discuss, if you weren't such an
    arrogant not-even-layman idiot.
    Nice example of his prejudice again :-))

    Just some sad truth, Harrie.

    I'm afraid Wozzie is resistant to truth.  Part of his problem
    when dealing with physics questions is that he appears to be
    mathematically incompetent.

    Speaking of mathematics - it's always good to remind
    that your bunch of idiots had to announce its oldest
    part false, as it didn't want to fit the madness
    of your insane guru.

    If LT were designed for an ether theory
    the "obvious" c+v=c interpretation of The
    Shit's worshippers can't be that obvios,
    don't you think, Harrie, poor halfbrain?

    Wozzie can't help himself from scatology and denigration.
    His parents never brought him up right, never washed his mouth
    out with soap when he behaved rudely.

    Anyway, his little diatribe makes no sense.  He seems to believe
    that "c+v=c" is an "interpretation" rather than a mathematical
    derivation.

    Tell me, poor halfbrain, was the RELATIVISTIC
    formula of velocity adding a part of Lorentz's
    ETHER theory?
    Yes or no?


    Refer back to the quote by Heinlein.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Fri Jun 21 18:21:35 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 16:14, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    A day is a day, Harrie.

    No, it's not.  Wozzie deleted where I explained that

    Put your explaination straight into your
    dumb, fanatic ass, where it belongs.

    An autistic "information engineer" who can't understand
    metaphor gets really asinine when his fuzzy-thinking is
    questioned. It figures.

    If I said "3 days ago" you wouldn't
    ask what I meant, would you?

    Now the autistic ass dissembles, equating himself with
    "an observer moving across the solar system at c/2."

    Why does he think that HE is the one flying at c/2?

    You're not THAT stupid, are you?

    Apparently, Wozzie IS that stupid :-))

    You're just pretending stupider than
    you are to dodge the question. Well,
    a hint for you: how was "second"
    defined in the physics of your
    idiot guru? I mean THAT day.

    The real idiot here is Wozzie-fool who thinks his
    poorly thought-out riddles have any real meaning.
    He just tries to muddy the waters of rational
    thinking. His ego is much bigger than his whole brain.

    Autistic Wozzie-fool now descends into soapy mouthwash
    territory. Deleted.

    Prove that something is valid when it is valid?

    Of course.  How does one KNOW that it's valid

    I don't have to know if it's valid to know
    that it is valid if/when it is valid.
    "It is valid in its apply range" is
    a simple truism, Harrie.

    Wozzie is dead wrong. "How do we know what we know"
    is a very serious field of study.

    https://iep.utm.edu/epistemo/

    "we must determine the nature of knowledge; that is, what
    does it mean to say that someone knows, or fails to know,
    something? This is a matter of understanding what knowledge
    is, and how to distinguish between cases in which someone
    knows something and cases in which someone does not know
    something. While there is some general agreement about some
    aspects of this issue, we shall see that this question is
    much more difficult than one might imagine."

    You're an idiot so you don't realize that.

    Only an autistic "information engineer" wouldn't question
    what he thinks he knows.

    Wozzie lies ALL of the time.  And he just did it again.

    Oh, did I? You DO lie 100% of time, Harrie?

    See?  Wozzie did it again!  He said I lied MOST of the time

    I said you don't lie 100% of time and you called me a liar...

    Of course. Wozzie is a congenital liar.

    One that rejects an obvious lie of a religious
    maniac insisting that The Nature itself is
    speaking to him and his idiot gurus.

    Wozzie appears to be oblivious to finer sensibilities.  I speak metaphorically

    And I speak directly - you lie like a fanatic
    idiot you are.

    Wozzie is projecting again, i.e., lying :-))

    That's the specialization of dealing
    with information and its various constructs.
    No way I'm an invincible expert, of course...
    we could discuss, if you weren't such an
    arrogant not-even-layman idiot.

    Nice example of his prejudice again :-))

    Just some sad truth, Harrie.

    I'm afraid Wozzie is resistant to truth.  Part of his problem
    when dealing with physics questions is that he appears to be
    mathematically incompetent.

    Speaking of mathematics - it's always good to remind
    that your bunch of idiots had to announce its oldest
    part false, as it didn't want to fit the madness
    of your insane guru.

    Wozzie proves once again that he is mathematically incompetent.
    After all, he claimed that the Lorentz transform was correct then
    denied what it derived mathematically.

    If LT were designed for an ether theory
    the "obvious" c+v=c interpretation of The
    Shit's worshippers can't be that obvios,
    don't you think, Harrie, poor halfbrain?

    Wozzie can't help himself from scatology and denigration.
    His parents never brought him up right, never washed his mouth
    out with soap when he behaved rudely.

    Anyway, his little diatribe makes no sense.  He seems to believe
    that "c+v=c" is an "interpretation" rather than a mathematical
    derivation.

    Tell me, poor halfbrain, was the RELATIVISTIC
    formula of velocity adding a part of Lorentz's
    ETHER theory?
    Yes or no?

    Autistic Wozzie-fool seems to think that something that's derived
    from a set of equations is "adding to it."

    But let's get to the point here: the equations of LET are the
    Lorentz transformation equations, which are valid in SR, also.
    Wozzie seems conflicted about that. He decries them when used
    by Einstein but embraces them when enfolded by an ether.

    Refer back to the quote by Heinlein.

    Yup. He also said that deriving something was just finding out
    what you already knew. Meaning, of course, that it was all there
    in the original equations, implied, which is the case with relativistic velocity addition. As anyone would know if he weren't mathematically incompetent.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 21 21:07:44 2024
    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 20:21, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 16:14, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    A day is a day, Harrie.
    No, it's not.  Wozzie deleted where I explained that

    Put your explaination straight into your
    dumb, fanatic ass, where it belongs.

    An autistic "information engineer" who can't understand
    metaphor gets really asinine when his fuzzy-thinking is


    A fanatic piece of lying ship, caught on an
    impudent, obvious lie is screaming about a
    "metaphor".
    Why won't you stop dodging and answer - what
    is the predicttion of the observer in my
    example according to the physics of your
    idiot guru?

    Tell me, poor halfbrain, was the RELATIVISTIC
    formula of velocity adding a part of Lorentz's
    ETHER theory?
    Yes or no?

    Autistic Wozzie-fool seems to think that something that's derived
    from a set of equations is "adding to it."

    But let's get to the point here:

    Let's get to the point, sure. Is the RELATIVISTIC formula
    of velocity adding a part of Lorentz's ETHER theory?
    Yes or no, trash.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Fri Jun 21 21:46:52 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 20:21, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    Put your explaination straight into your
    dumb, fanatic ass, where it belongs.

    An autistic "information engineer" who can't understand
    metaphor gets really asinine when his fuzzy-thinking is


    A fanatic piece of lying ship, caught on an
    impudent, obvious lie is screaming about a
    "metaphor".

    So Mad Maciej doesn't understand metaphor. Whoda thought :-))

    Why won't you stop dodging and answer - what is the predicttion
    of the observer in my example according to the physics of your
    idiot guru?

    First the autistic information engineer must define his terms.
    I asked him to do this and he still refuses: What is his
    definition of a day? What is the speed c/2 of the observer with
    respect to?

    He tried to turn the argument around referring to the quote from
    Heinlein, at which he failed miserably. He has dodged the pointed
    question about speed:

    "'Speed' in space is a curiously slippery term, as it is relative
    to whatever point you select as 'fixed' -- but the points in space
    are never fixed." -- Robert A. Heinlein

    Tell me, poor halfbrain, was the RELATIVISTIC
    formula of velocity adding a part of Lorentz's
    ETHER theory?
    Yes or no?

    Autistic Wozzie-fool seems to think that something that's derived
    from a set of equations is "adding to it."

    But let's get to the point here:

    Wozzie deleted the answer, apparently he's incapable of understanding
    a cogent argument.

    Let's get to the point, sure. Is the RELATIVISTIC formula of velocity
    adding a part of Lorentz's ETHER theory?
    Yes or no, trash.

    First of all, no human being is trash, so Weird Wozzy doesn't really
    want an honest answer, which I already gave to him anyway:

    "[Heinlein] also said that deriving something was just finding out
    what you already knew. Meaning, of course, that it was all there
    in the original equations, implied, which is the case with relativistic velocity addition. As anyone would know if he weren't mathematically incompetent."

    Because of Wozzie's mathematical incompetence, he can't figure out that
    (1) relativistic velocity addition is DERIVED from the Lorentz
    transform
    equations.
    (2) "Lorentz's ETHER theory" has NOTHING to do with it because there is
    no ether*. So LET is a dead end. Dishonest Wozzie's attempt to insert
    that into his question was a red herring, a misleading fallacy.
    (3) The RVA equation is derived from the LT equations by dividing the
    equation for dx' by the equation for dt', so there is no "adding" to
    either LET or SR.

    *Ether theory is a dead end because SR took away the last vestige of
    any
    physicality: that of motion. IOW, it becomes fundamentally
    undetectable,
    which makes it nonexistent for all practical purposes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 22 00:28:44 2024
    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 23:46, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 20:21, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    Put your explaination straight into your
    dumb, fanatic ass, where it belongs.
    An autistic "information engineer" who can't understand
    metaphor gets really asinine when his fuzzy-thinking is


    A fanatic piece of lying ship, caught on an
    impudent, obvious  lie is screaming about a
    "metaphor".

    So Mad Maciej doesn't understand metaphor.

    Why won't you explain, you lying shit.
    And why won't you stop dodging and
    demonstrate the power of predictions
    of your moronic Shit on my example.


    Whoda thought :-))

    Why won't you stop dodging and answer - what is the predicttion
    of the observer in my example according to the physics of your
    idiot guru?

    First the autistic information engineer must define his terms.


    Must he?
    But what does the relativistic piece of
    shit mean by "define"? By "must"? By
    "terms"?




    Let's get to the point, sure. Is the RELATIVISTIC formula of velocity
    adding  a part of Lorentz's ETHER theory?
    Yes or no, trash.

    First of all, no human being is trash, so Weird Wozzy doesn't really
    want an honest answer, which I already gave to him anyway:

    "[Heinlein] also said that deriving something was just finding out
    what you already knew.  Meaning, of course, that it was all there
    in the original equations, implied, which is the case with relativistic velocity addition.

    So, according to you and your idiot gurus -
    in LET every observer, stationary in ether or not -
    would observe light moving at speed c. Right?


      As anyone would know if he weren't mathematically
    incompetent."

    Because of Wozzie's mathematical incompetence, he can't figure out that
    (1) relativistic velocity addition is DERIVED from the Lorentz
    transform
    equations.

    It is, sure, after assuming the obviously correct
    Holiest Postulate.
    And speaking of mathematics - it's always
    good to remind that your bunch of idiots
    had to announce its oldest part false, as
    it didn't want to fit the madness of your
    insane guru.



    (2) "Lorentz's ETHER theory" has NOTHING to do with it because there is
    no ether*.  So LET is a dead end.  Dishonest Wozzie's attempt to insert that into his question was a red herring, a misleading fallacy.
    (3) The RVA equation is derived from the LT equations by dividing the equation for dx' by the equation for dt', so there is no "adding" to
    either LET or SR.

    *Ether theory is a dead end because SR took away the last vestige of
    any
    physicality: that of motion.  IOW, it becomes fundamentally
    undetectable,
    which makes it nonexistent for all practical purposes.

    And how about 0 meridian? Is it fundamentally
    detectable?
    If it is not - it must be nonexistent for all
    practical purposes. Am I correct, Harrie, poor
    halfbrain?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Sat Jun 22 01:50:38 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 23:46, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 20:21, gharnagel pisze:

    An autistic "information engineer" who can't understand
    metaphor gets really asinine when his fuzzy-thinking is

    A fanatic piece of lying ship, caught on an
    impudent, obvious  lie is screaming about a
    "metaphor".

    So Mad Maciej doesn't understand metaphor.

    Why won't you explain, you lying shit.
    And why won't you stop dodging and
    demonstrate the power of predictions
    of your moronic Shit on my example.

    I'm not dodging. I'm merely asking consequential question which
    Woozie-liar refuses to answer.

    Why won't you stop dodging and answer - what is the predicttion
    of the observer in my example according to the physics of your
    idiot guru?

    First the autistic information engineer must define his terms.

    Must he?

    It is incumbant on him since he is the one demanding an answer to his
    devious and misleading problem.

    But what does the relativistic piece of
    shit mean by "define"? By "must"? By
    "terms"?

    I just want everything clearly and honestly laid out. Of course,
    that's too much to ask from a dishonest hypocrite.

    Let's get to the point, sure. Is the RELATIVISTIC formula of
    velocity
    adding  a part of Lorentz's ETHER theory?
    Yes or no, trash.

    First of all, no human being is trash, so Weird Wozzy doesn't really
    want an honest answer, which I already gave to him anyway:

    "[Heinlein] also said that deriving something was just finding out
    what you already knew.  Meaning, of course, that it was all there
    in the original equations, implied, which is the case with
    relativistic
    velocity addition.

    So, according to you and your idiot gurus -
    in LET every observer, stationary in ether or not -
    would observe light moving at speed c. Right?

    What's the matter, mathematically-incompetent Wozzie, can't actually
    USE
    the theory and calculate the answer for yourself?

    As anyone would know if he weren't mathematically
    incompetent."

    Because of Wozzie's mathematical incompetence, he can't figure out
    that
    (1) relativistic velocity addition is DERIVED from the Lorentz
    transform equations.

    It is, sure, after assuming the obviously correct
    Holiest Postulate.

    The postulates were determined FIRST, dishonest Wozzie-fool, and THEN
    the
    LT equations were derived.

    And speaking of mathematics - it's always
    good to remind that your bunch of idiots
    had to announce its oldest part false, as
    it didn't want to fit the madness of your
    insane guru.

    Irrelevant and false baloney seeking to deflect from the drubbing
    Wozzie's
    but is getting in these "discussions."

    (2) "Lorentz's ETHER theory" has NOTHING to do with it because there
    is
    no ether*.  So LET is a dead end.  Dishonest Wozzie's attempt to
    insert
    that into his question was a red herring, a misleading fallacy.
    (3) The RVA equation is derived from the LT equations by dividing the equation for dx' by the equation for dt', so there is no "adding" to
    either LET or SR.

    *Ether theory is a dead end because SR took away the last vestige of
    any physicality: that of motion.  IOW, it becomes fundamentally undetectable, which makes it nonexistent for all practical purposes.

    And how about 0 meridian? Is it fundamentally
    detectable?

    More attempted deflection. The eath has nothing to do with either LET
    or SR.

    If it is not - it must be nonexistent for all practical purposes.
    Am I correct, Harrie, poor halfbrain?

    It is part of a coordinate system. Coordinate systems aren't part of
    nature.
    They are human mental constructs.

    But this is another stupid attempt to deflect from Wozzie-filth having
    to face
    the drubbing he's getting. His parents didn't do their job of raising
    an
    honest and responsible human, so he has to take his whuppin' now.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 22 05:58:40 2024
    W dniu 22.06.2024 o 03:50, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 23:46, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 21.06.2024 o 20:21, gharnagel pisze:

    An autistic "information engineer" who can't understand
    metaphor gets really asinine when his fuzzy-thinking is
    A fanatic piece of lying ship, caught on an
    impudent, obvious  lie is screaming about a
    "metaphor".
    So Mad Maciej doesn't understand metaphor.
    Why won't you explain, you lying shit.
    And why won't you stop dodging and
    demonstrate the power of predictions
    of your moronic Shit on my example.

    I'm not dodging.  I'm merely asking consequential question which
    Woozie-liar refuses to answer.

    Yes, you are. You're pretending even stupider
    than you are to dodge.
    But what does the relativistic piece of
    shit mean by "define"? By "must"? By
    "terms"?

    I just want everything clearly and honestly laid out.
    You must define "clearly and honestly". And "define".
    And "must".

    So, according to you and your idiot gurus -
    in LET every observer, stationary in ether or not -
    would observe light moving at speed c. Right?

    What's the matter, mathematically-incompetent Wozzie, can't actually
    USE
    the theory and calculate the answer for yourself?

    The matter is that mathematically-incompetent Harrie
    can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
    for me.



    As anyone would know if he weren't mathematically
    incompetent."
    Because of Wozzie's mathematical incompetence, he can't figure out
    that
    (1) relativistic velocity addition is DERIVED from the Lorentz
    transform equations.

    It is, sure, after assuming the obviously correct
    Holiest Postulate.

    The postulates were determined FIRST

    And without them - in LET - your idiocies can't be
    derived, neither from LT nor from experiments.


    , dishonest Wozzie-fool, and THEN
    the
    LT equations were derived.

    A lie, of course. First - Lorentz invented his
    equations for his ether theory, then - your
    idiot guru came with his absurd postulates.



    And how about 0 meridian? Is it fundamentally
    detectable?

    More attempted deflection.  The eath has nothing to do with either LET
    or SR.

    More dodging.


    If it is not - it must be nonexistent for all practical purposes.
    Am I correct,  Harrie, poor halfbrain?

    It is part of a coordinate system.  Coordinate systems aren't part of nature.
    They are human mental constructs.

    Unlike the Holy Postulates, told your
    idiot gurus by Nature itself when She
    spoke to them. Right, Harrie?



    But this is another stupid attempt to deflect from Wozzie-filth having
    to face
    the drubbing he's getting.  His parents didn't do their job of raising
    an
    honest and responsible human, so he has to take his whuppin' now.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Sat Jun 22 13:54:40 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 22.06.2024 o 03:50, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    Why won't you explain, you lying shit.
    And why won't you stop dodging and
    demonstrate the power of predictions
    of your moronic Shit on my example.

    I'm not dodging.  I'm merely asking consequential
    question which Woozie-liar refuses to answer.

    Yes, you are. You're pretending even stupider
    than you are to dodge.

    No matter how many times Wozzie tells lies, i doesn't
    make them true. His parents must be chagrinned at
    his abysmal behavior.

    But what does the relativistic piece of
    shit mean by "define"? By "must"? By
    "terms"?

    I just want everything clearly and honestly laid out.

    You must define "clearly and honestly". And "define".
    And "must".

    Such terms are human terms, and those that are fully human
    understand them implicitly. Terms like "speed" and "time"
    are understood implicitly only when used in an earthly
    (equivalent to human) environment. Wozzie's problem was
    not cast in an earthly environment so their meanings are not
    implicit. Wozzie is being taught a lesson about things
    greater than earth, but he refuses to learn. His mind isn't
    supple, it recalcitrant and small.

    So, according to you and your idiot gurus -
    in LET every observer, stationary in ether or not -
    would observe light moving at speed c. Right?

    What's the matter, mathematically-incompetent Wozzie,
    can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
    for yourself?

    The matter is that mathematically-incompetent Harrie
    can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
    for me.

    I offered to derive the LTE for Wozzie, but he said it
    wasn't necessary. He implied, therefore, that he knew how
    to do it. Now he refuses to take the next step, implying
    that perhaps he didn't know how to do it, after all.

    Okay, just to prove Wozzie-liar is a liar, I'll do it.

    (1) relativistic velocity addition is DERIVED from
    the Lorentz transform equations.

    It is, sure, after assuming the obviously correct
    Holiest Postulate.

    The postulates were determined FIRST

    And without them - in LET - your idiocies can't be
    derived, neither from LT nor from experiments.

    There is no LET without the postulates. It's obvious that mathematically-incompetent Wozzie can't derive the LTE,
    otherwise, he wouldn't be making such a fool of himself.

    , dishonest Wozzie-fool, and THEN the LT equations were
    derived.

    A lie, of course. First - Lorentz invented his
    equations for his ether theory, then - your
    idiot guru came with his absurd postulates.

    So the "absurd" postulates result in the LTE, exactly as
    Lorentz invented them out of whole cloth, so how could they
    possibly be absurd? Wozzie just argued himself into a dog
    chasing its tail.

    And how about 0 meridian? Is it fundamentally
    detectable?

    More attempted deflection.  The earth has nothing to do
    with either LET or SR.

    More dodging.

    Says the dodger that deflected by bringing up irrelevant meridians.

    If it is not - it must be nonexistent for all practical purposes.
    Am I correct,  Harrie, poor halfbrain?

    It is part of a coordinate system.  Coordinate systems aren't part
    of nature. They are human mental constructs.

    Unlike the Holy Postulates, told your
    idiot gurus by Nature itself when She
    spoke to them. Right, Harrie?

    Postulates are human constructs also, but they can be tested against
    nature. Like the constancy of the speed of light, which all measure-
    ments confirm. Another one is that the laws of physics are the same
    in all inertial frames, which all measurements also confirm.

    Lorentz assumed that the c' = c postulate was due to objects actually contracting along their line of motion through the ether, which is
    a really difficult concept to swallow. In fact, the concept of an
    ether in which light travels at 299796458 meters/second is really
    difficult to swallow from the fact that, mechanically, the ether would
    have to be an incredibly stiff material. It was a relief that someone
    came along and derived the LTE by enshrining simple observations of
    nature into postulates.

    Certain autistic "information engineers" are left in the dust of
    history.

    But this is another stupid attempt to deflect from Wozzie-filth
    having to face the drubbing he's getting.  His parents didn't do
    their job of raising an honest and responsible human, so he has
    to take his whuppin' now.

    Since Wozzie didn't respond to this, he must agree with it since
    silence implies consent: his parents failed to raise him properly and
    he's taking a drubbing now. And his brain is full of worthless filth.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 22 17:34:52 2024
    W dniu 22.06.2024 o 15:54, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 22.06.2024 o 03:50, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    Why won't you explain, you lying shit.
    And why won't you stop dodging and
    demonstrate the power of predictions
    of your moronic Shit on my example.
    I'm not dodging.  I'm merely asking consequential
    question which Woozie-liar refuses to answer.

    Yes, you are. You're pretending even stupider
    than you are to dodge.

    No matter how many times Wozzie tells lies, i doesn't
    make them true.  His parents must be chagrinned at
    his abysmal behavior.


    And why won't you stop your iditic dodging
    and answer what are the prediction of the moronic
    physics of your moronic guru for my example?


    But what does the relativistic piece of
    shit mean by "define"? By "must"? By
    "terms"?
    I just want everything clearly and honestly laid out.

    You must define "clearly and honestly". And "define".
    And "must".

    Such terms are human terms, and those that are fully human
    understand them implicitly.  Terms like "speed" and "time"

    are the terms of physicists, i.e. Gods.
    I'm getting it.

    > > So, according to you and your idiot gurus -
    in LET every observer, stationary in ether or not -
    would observe light moving at speed c. Right?
    What's the matter, mathematically-incompetent Wozzie,
    can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
    for yourself?

    The matter is that mathematically-incompetent Harrie
    can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
    for me.

    I offered to derive the LTE for Wozzie,

    But can't deal with a set of assumptions
    different than The Shit of your idiot guru.
    It's not very complicated, but - well -
    you're an idiot.


    (1) relativistic velocity addition is DERIVED from
    the Lorentz transform equations.

    It is, sure, after assuming the obviously correct
    Holiest Postulate.
    The postulates were determined FIRST

    And without them - in LET - your idiocies can't be
    derived, neither from LT nor from experiments.

    There is no LET without the postulates

    If you mean the postulates of your idiot guru -
    well, the impudence of THIS lie is beating your
    usual level.


    A lie, of course. First - Lorentz invented his
    equations for his ether theory,  then - your
    idiot guru came with his absurd postulates.

    So the "absurd" postulates result in the LTE exactly as
    Lorentz invented them out of whole cloth, so how could they
    possibly be absurd

    Simply.

    Unlike the Holy Postulates,  told your
    idiot gurus by Nature itself when She
    spoke to them. Right, Harrie?

    Postulates are human constructs also, but they can be tested against
    Only such an idiot can believe and repeat such
    an absurd lie. But - see: 0 meridian has something
    in common with both The Shit of your idiot guru and
    Lorontz ether theory, after all...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 22 10:37:00 2024
    wat came first, space or time?

    (besides The Code)

    Space of course!

    Since in order for Time to move forward..

    (from the beginning)

    you have to take

    the arrow of time

    and pull back the arrow

    in it's bow and

    release the arrow

    where it shoots

    forward.


    spring forward
    and
    vegatation appears.


    Come on, git dis stuff right!







    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Sat Jun 22 18:47:51 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 22.06.2024 o 15:54, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    You're pretending even stupider
    than you are to dodge.

    No matter how many times Wozzie tells lies, i doesn't
    make them true.  His parents must be chagrinned at
    his abysmal behavior.

    And why won't you stop your iditic dodging
    and answer what are the prediction of the moronic
    physics of your moronic guru for my example?

    Wozzie "question" was "What does an observer going at
    c/2 through the solar system measure as the length of
    a day?"

    Since the observer is not on earth, a "day" is not well
    defined. I asked him if it was a day on earth, Mars,
    Jupiter, what? Also, since velocity is relative, what is
    the c/s with respect to? Autistic Wozzie-fool has refused
    to answer these pertinent questions, proving his dishonesty
    by asking stupid and irrelevant questions in return:

    You must define "clearly and honestly". And "define".
    And "must".

    Such terms are human terms, and those that are fully human
    understand them implicitly.  Terms like "speed" and "time"

    are the terms of physicists, i.e. Gods.
    I'm getting it.

    ?? Wozzie makes no sense, as usual.

    Then he pivots to a different question:

    So, according to you and your idiot gurus -
    in LET every observer, stationary in ether or not -
    would observe light moving at speed c. Right?

    What's the matter, mathematically-incompetent Wozzie,
    can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
    for yourself?

    And dishonest Wozzie projects his incompetence on others:

    And then he pivots to a third question:

    "Is the RELATIVISTIC formula of velocity adding a part of
    Lorentz's ETHER theory? Yes or no"

    So it's become quite confusing just which question Wozzie
    wants answered.

    The matter is that mathematically-incompetent Harrie
    can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
    for me.

    I offered to derive the LTE for Wozzie,

    But can't deal with a set of assumptions
    different than The Shit of your idiot guru.
    It's not very complicated, but - well -
    you're an idiot.

    Wozzie-liar is projecting again.

    A lie, of course. First - Lorentz invented his
    equations for his ether theory,  then - your
    idiot guru came with his absurd postulates.

    So the "absurd" postulates result in the LTE exactly as
    Lorentz invented them out of whole cloth, so how could they
    possibly be absurd

    Simply.

    Yes, Wozzie is a simpleton.

    Unlike the Holy Postulates,  told your
    idiot gurus by Nature itself when She
    spoke to them. Right, Harrie?

    Postulates are human constructs also, but they can be tested
    against [nature].

    Only such an idiot can believe and repeat such
    an absurd lie.

    So Wozzie denies that human constructs (like the constancy of the
    speed of light) can't be tested against nature? What is the matter
    with this demented fool?

    But - see: 0 meridian has something in common with both The Shit
    of your idiot guru and Lorontz ether theory, after all...

    So Wozzie believes that 0 meridian is a fundamental property of
    nature, like the speed of light? This moron has gone totally off
    the rails. Python, call that nurse NOW!

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 22 22:01:27 2024
    W dniu 22.06.2024 o 20:47, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 22.06.2024 o 15:54, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    You're pretending even stupider
    than you are to dodge.

    No matter how many times Wozzie tells lies, i doesn't
    make them true.  His parents must be chagrinned at
    his abysmal behavior.

    And why won't you stop your iditic dodging
    and answer what are the prediction of the moronic
    physics of your moronic guru for my example?

    Wozzie "question" was "What does an observer going at
    c/2 through the solar system measure as the length of
    a day?"

    Since the observer is not on earth, a "day" is not well
    defined.

    Too bad for your idiot guru who was using
    it as the time unit. Don't you think, poor
    halfbrain?




    What's the matter, mathematically-incompetent Wozzie,
    can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
    for yourself?

    And dishonest Wozzie projects his incompetence on others:

    And then he pivots to a third question:

    "Is the RELATIVISTIC formula of velocity adding a part of
    Lorentz's ETHER theory?  Yes or no"

    So it's become quite confusing just which question Wozzie
    wants answered.

    May be confusing for such an idiot
    as you are, Harrie. Sure.

    Only such an idiot can believe and repeat such
    an absurd lie.

    So Wozzie denies that human constructs (like the constancy of the
    speed of light) can't be tested against nature?  What is the matter
    with this demented fool?

    He knows the subject, in opposition to you
    or your idiot gurus.



    But - see: 0 meridian has something in common with both The Shit
    of  your idiot guru and Lorontz ether theory, after all...

    So Wozzie believes that 0 meridian is a fundamental property of
    nature, like the speed of light?

    Nope, you're just projecting your moronic mania
    of fundamental properties of the nature on me.



    This moron has gone totally off
    the rails.  Python, call that nurse NOW!

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent
    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering. But you
    will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Sat Jun 22 23:27:27 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 22.06.2024 o 20:47, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    And why won't you stop your iditic dodging
    and answer what are the prediction of the moronic
    physics of your moronic guru for my example?

    Wozzie "question" was "What does an observer going at
    c/2 through the solar system measure as the length of
    a day?"

    Since the observer is not on earth, a "day" is not well
    defined.

    Too bad for your idiot guru who was using
    it as the time unit. Don't you think, poor
    halfbrain?

    Too bad for dishonest, stupid Wozzie-fool that he can't
    articulate an unambiguous question. His dishonesty is
    underlined by his pivot to blaming Saint Albert for it.
    He has this compulsion that just won't let him rest in
    peace. Science has moved on, bur autistic Wozzie is
    obsessed with him.

    Then he pivots to a different question:

    "So, according to you and your idiot gurus - in LET
    every observer, stationary in ether or not - would
    observe light moving at speed c. Right?"

    And I responded:
    "What's the matter, mathematically-incompetent Wozzie,
    can't actually USE the theory and calculate the answer
    for yourself?"

    And dishonest Wozzie projects his incompetence on others:

    And then he pivots to a third question:

    "Is the RELATIVISTIC formula of velocity adding a part of
    Lorentz's ETHER theory?  Yes or no"

    So it's become quite confusing just which question Wozzie
    wants answered.

    May be confusing for such an idiot
    as you are, Harrie. Sure.

    But not confusing to an severely autistic "information engineer"
    who rejects any information he finds distasteful :-)

    So he admits his inability to stick to one topic.

    Only such an idiot can believe and repeat such
    an absurd lie.

    So Wozzie denies that human constructs (like the constancy of the
    speed of light) can't be tested against nature?  What is the matter
    with this demented fool?

    He knows the subject, in opposition to you
    or your idiot gurus.

    Wozzie doesn't "know" anything. All he has is a limited form of
    "information." Maybe he hates Saint Albert so much because of what
    he said:

    “Information is not knowledge.” -- Albert Einstein

    But - see: 0 meridian has something in common with both The Shit
    of  your idiot guru and Lorontz ether theory, after all...

    So Wozzie believes that 0 meridian is a fundamental property of
    nature, like the speed of light?

    Nope, you're just projecting your moronic mania
    of fundamental properties of the nature on me.

    So Wozzie admits that his 0 meridian argument was a red herring, a
    distraction intended to confuse. This once again underlines his basic dishonesty. Whenever he calls others liars, he is projecting.

    This moron has gone totally off the rails.  Python, call that nurse
    NOW!

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Repeating this lie ad infinitum proves the basic dishonesty of this
    escapee
    from an information (not knowledge) institution.

    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering.

    Wozzie is projecting again, because that is exactly what he does.

    But you will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.

    Wozzie needs a good dose of The One he just can't let go of:

    “A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be.”
    -- Albert Einstein

    "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted
    with
    important matters." -- Albert Einstein


    “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its
    limits”
    -- Albert Einstein

    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -
    Albert Einstein

    Speaking of the LTE:

    "it is clear that the equations must be linear on account of the
    properties of
    homogeneity which we attribute to space and time." -- A. Einstein,
    OtEoMB

    That means the LTE must be of the form:

    x' = Gx + Ht
    t' = At + Bx

    A stationary object is moving at v in another frame:

    0 = Gx + Ht, Gx = - Ht = Gvt

    For the case where x is stationary (at x = 0):

    t' = At + Bx = At, x' = Ht = -Gvt

    x'/t' = -v, therefore A = G, so

    x' = G(x - t)
    t' = G(t - Bx/G)

    If we assume t' = t, then G = 1:

    x' = x - t
    t' = t

    and we have the Galilean transform, but if we assume that
    there is a speed that is the same in all inertial frames:

    x'/t' = c = (x/t - v)/(1 + Bx/t) = (c - v)/(1 + Bc),

    then B = -v/c^2 and

    x' = G(x - v)
    t' = G(t - vx/c^2)

    All that's left is to evaluate G, which turns out to be gamma.

    And, oh look! The relativistic velocity equation was part of
    the derivation of the LTE! Whoda thought? Certainly not mathematically-incompetent Wozzie-fool :-))

    And the only difference between the GTE and the LTE is that
    there is a speed which is the same in all inertial frames which
    replaces the assumption that t' = t. So Wozzie-fool's assertion
    that t' = t in the GPS disproves relativity but the LTE are just
    fine is complete bool poop.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 23 06:34:49 2024
    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 01:27, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 22.06.2024 o 20:47, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    And why won't you stop your iditic dodging
    and answer what are the prediction of the moronic
    physics of your moronic guru for my example?
    Wozzie "question" was "What does an observer going at
    c/2 through the solar system measure as the length of
    a day?"
    Since the observer is not on earth, a "day" is not well
    defined.

    Too bad for your idiot guru who was using
    it as the time unit. Don't you think, poor
    halfbrain?

    Too bad for dishonest, stupid Wozzie-fool that he can't
    articulate an unambiguous question.  His dishonesty is


    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent
    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering. But you
    will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.

    And dishonest Wozzie projects his incompetence on others:
    And then he pivots to a third question:
    "Is the RELATIVISTIC formula of velocity adding a part of
    Lorentz's ETHER theory?  Yes or no"
    So it's become quite confusing just which question Wozzie
    wants answered.

    May be confusing for such an idiot
    as you are, Harrie. Sure.

    But not confusing to an severely autistic "information engineer"
    who rejects any information he finds distasteful :-)

    So he admits his inability to stick to one topic.
    Only such an idiot can believe and repeat such
    an absurd lie.
    So Wozzie denies that human constructs (like the constancy of the
    speed of light) can't be tested against nature?  What is the matter
    with this demented fool?

    He knows the subject, in opposition to you
    or your idiot gurus.

    Wozzie doesn't "know" anything.

    Sorry, trash, it's you and your idiot gurus who
    have no slighest clue of how human concepts work.
    If you had some honesty you would admit it - but,
    of course, you're not going to.


    But - see: 0 meridian has something in common with both The Shit
    of  your idiot guru and Lorontz ether theory, after all...
    So Wozzie believes that 0 meridian is a fundamental property of
    nature, like the speed of light?

    Nope, you're just projecting your moronic mania
    of fundamental properties of the nature on me.

    So Wozzie admits that his 0 meridian argument was a red herring, a

    No, I don't. You're fabricating and lying,
    as expected from a piece of relativistic shit
    in general and from you especially.

    Still, 0 meridian has as much in common
    with "fundamental properties" as the idiocies
    of your insane guru (it is much more reasonable,
    though).

    distraction intended to confuse.  This once again underlines his basic dishonesty.  Whenever he calls others liars, he is projecting.

      This moron has gone totally off the rails.  Python, call that nurse
    NOW!

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Repeating this lie ad infinitum proves the basic dishonesty of this
    escapee
    from an information (not knowledge) institution.

    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering.

    Wozzie is projecting again, because that is exactly what he does.

    But you will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.

    Wozzie needs a good dose of The One he just can't let go of:

    “A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be.”
    -- Albert Einstein

    "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted
    with
    important matters." -- Albert Einstein


    “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits”
    -- Albert Einstein

    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -
    Albert Einstein

    Speaking of the LTE:

    "it is clear that the equations must be linear on account of the
    properties of homogeneity which we attribute to space and time." -- A. Einstein,

    What is ot isn't clear for an inconsistently
    mumbling idiot doesn't have to concern me or
    other sane people. Don't you think, poor
    halfbrain?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Sun Jun 23 14:06:59 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 01:27, gharnagel pisze:

    Too bad for dishonest, stupid Wozzie-fool that he can't
    articulate an unambiguous question.  His dishonesty is

    See, trash

    I see trash every time Wozzie posts.

    - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Regurgitating bool poop doesn't make it smell any better.

    [cut and pasted drivel deleted]

    But not confusing to an severely autistic "information engineer"
    who rejects any information he finds distasteful :-)

    So he admits his inability to stick to one topic.
    Wozzie doesn't "know" anything.

    Sorry, trash,

    Yes, Wozzie is sorry trash.

    [Lies and trash-talk deleted]

    So Wozzie admits that his 0 meridian argument was a red herring, a

    No, I don't.

    Yes he did.

    [Lies and trash-talk deleted].

    Still, 0 meridian has as much in common
    with "fundamental properties" as the idiocies
    of your insane guru (it is much more reasonable,
    though).

    So a fact (that's information to an autistic engineer), determined
    by experiment, is equivalent to a defined thing like meridians.

    that the distraction intended to confuse.  This once again
    underlines his basic dishonesty.  Whenever he calls others
    liars, he is projecting.

    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering.

    Wozzie is projecting again, because that is exactly what he does.

    Wozzie needs a good dose of The One he just can't let go of:

    “A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should
    be.”
    -- Albert Einstein

    And Wozzie's arrogance is that he rejects what is and embraces what he
    believes should be.

    "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be
    trusted
    with important matters." -- Albert Einstein

    Which is why Wozzie can't be trusted.

    “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits” -- Albert Einstein

    And Wozzie has no limits.

    "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -
    Albert Einstein

    Wozzie condemns SR without understanding it.

    Speaking of the LTE:

    "it is clear that the equations must be linear on account of the
    properties of homogeneity which we attribute to space and time."
    -- A. Einstein,

    What is ot isn't clear for an inconsistently
    mumbling idiot doesn't have to concern me or
    other sane people. Don't you think, poor
    halfbrain?

    Wozzie lies and slanders his way to perdition. He deleted the proof
    of the LTE because he is mathematically incompetent.

    "Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best
    he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and
    not make messes in the house." – Robert A. Heinlein

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 23 16:41:22 2024
    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 16:06, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 01:27, gharnagel pisze:

    Too bad for dishonest, stupid Wozzie-fool that he can't
    articulate an unambiguous question.  His dishonesty is

    See, trash

    I see trash every time Wozzie posts.

    - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Regurgitating bool poop doesn't make it smell any better.

    [cut and pasted drivel deleted]

    But not confusing to an severely autistic "information engineer"
    who rejects any information he finds distasteful :-)
    So he admits his inability to stick to one topic.
    Wozzie doesn't "know" anything.

    Sorry, trash,

    Yes, Wozzie is sorry trash.

    [Lies and trash-talk deleted]

    So Wozzie admits that his 0 meridian argument was a red herring, a

    No, I don't.

    Yes he did.

    No, I didn't. Sorry, trash. You're just
    fabricating and lying, as expected from a
    piece of relativistic shit in general and
    from you especially.



    [Lies and trash-talk deleted].

    Still, 0 meridian has as much in common
    with "fundamental properties" as the idiocies
    of your insane guru (it is much more reasonable,
    though).

    So a fact (that's information to an autistic engineer), determined
    by experiment, is equivalent to a defined thing like meridians.

    that the distraction intended to confuse.  This once again
    underlines his basic dishonesty.  Whenever he calls others
    liars, he is projecting.

    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering.
    Wozzie is projecting again, because that is exactly what he does.
    Wozzie needs a good dose of The One he just can't let go of:
    “A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should
    be.”
    -- Albert Einstein

    And Wozzie's arrogance is that he rejects what is and embraces what he believes should be.
    "Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be
    trusted
    with important matters." -- Albert Einstein

    Which is why Wozzie can't be trusted.

    “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its
    limits” -- Albert Einstein

    And Wozzie has no limits.


    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent
    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering. But you
    will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.



    Wozzie lies and slanders his way to perdition.  He deleted the proof
    of the LTE because he is mathematically incompetent.

    "Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human.

    And speaking of mathematics - it's always good
    to remind that your bunch of idiots had to announce
    its oldest part false, as it didn't want to fit
    the madness of your idiot guru.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Sun Jun 23 18:48:40 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 16:06, gharnagel pisze:

    “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits” -- Albert Einstein

    And Wozzie has no limits.

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Wozzie is lying again. Well, maybe he's not lying, he is just
    delusional.

    [repetitious nonsense deleted]

    Wozzie lies and slanders his way to perdition.  He deleted the proof
    of the LTE because he is mathematically incompetent.

    "Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human.

    And speaking of mathematics - it's always good
    to remind that your bunch of idiots had to announce
    its oldest part false, as it didn't want to fit
    the madness of your idiot guru.

    Wozzie is accessing his delusions again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 23 21:25:41 2024
    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 20:48, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 16:06, gharnagel pisze:

    “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its
    limits” -- Albert Einstein
    And Wozzie has no limits.

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Wozzie is lying again.  Well, maybe he's not lying, he is just
    delusional.

    [repetitious nonsense deleted]

    Wozzie lies and slanders his way to perdition.  He deleted the proof
    of the LTE because he is mathematically incompetent.
    "Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human.

    And speaking of mathematics - it's always good
    to remind that your bunch of idiots had to announce
    its oldest part false, as it didn't want to fit
    the madness of your idiot guru.

    Wozzie is accessing his delusions again.


    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent
    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering. But you
    will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 23 20:52:29 2024
    Maciej Wozniak recrudesced again:

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Wozzie has never, ever done that. He is exceedingly
    dishonest and dangerously delusional. All he has to
    do is show his "proof" and it will be ripped to
    shreds, and he knows it. That's why he doesn't show
    it. He's so scared he's pooping his pants.

    Python, call the nurse now!

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 06:59:11 2024
    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 22:52, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak recrudesced again:

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Wozzie has never, ever done that.  He is exceedingly

    Yes, I did. Pointed directly 2 denying itself
    predictions of the physics of your idiot guru,
    and some fanatic idiots insulting, lying and
    slandering are changing nothing. Sorry,
    trash.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Jun 24 11:45:24 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 22:52, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak recrudesced again:

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Wozzie has never, ever done that.  He is exceedingly
    dishonest and dangerously delusional. All he has to
    do is show his "proof" and it will be ripped to
    shreds, and he knows it. That's why he doesn't show
    it. He's so scared he's pooping his pants.

    Python, call the nurse now!

    Yes, I did.

    Blustering isn't a valid proof. All Wozzie has to do is
    show his "proof" again or give a link, but he won't do
    that because he is lying again.

    Pointed directly 2 denying itself predictions of the
    physics of your idiot guru,

    All he has to do is SHOW it, but he can't because he
    isn't competent.

    and some fanatic idiots insulting, lying and
    slandering are changing nothing. Sorry,
    trash.

    Wozzie is projecting again. He is the liar-in-chief,
    the insulter-in-chief and the slanderer-in-chief.

    How likely is it that no reputable physicist or
    mathematician has refuted or disproven relativity,
    but a mathematically-challenged "information engineer"
    who denies information has done so? Wozzie is a
    delusional guy with a broken leg.

    “We defined thinking as integrating data and arriving
    at correct answers…. Most people do that stunt just
    well enough to get to the corner store and back without
    breaking a leg.” -- Robert A. Heinlein

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 15:40:20 2024
    W dniu 24.06.2024 o 13:45, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 22:52, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak recrudesced again:

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent
    Wozzie has never, ever done that.  He is exceedingly
    dishonest and dangerously delusional.  All he has to
    do is show his "proof" and it will be ripped to
    shreds, and he knows it.  That's why he doesn't show
    it.  He's so scared he's pooping his pants.

    Python, call the nurse now!

    Yes, I did.

    Blustering isn't a valid proof.  All Wozzie has to do is
    show his "proof" again or give a link, but he won't do
    that because he is lying again.

    Pointed directly 2 denying itself predictions of the
    physics of your idiot guru,

    All he has to do is SHOW it, but he can't because he
    isn't competent.

    Harrie, poor trash, I've shown it dosens of time
    here, last time just some minutes before the
    post you were answerring.


    How likely is it that no reputable physicist or
    mathematician has refuted or disproven relativity,
    but a mathematically-challenged "information engineer"
    who denies information has done so?

    It's 100% likely, because it has happened.
    "Reputable" physicists, BTW? A good joke,
    Harrie.
    And what's wrong in "information denying"
    when the information is some absurd lie of a
    bunch of religious maniacs?

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Jun 24 14:50:19 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 24.06.2024 o 13:45, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 22:52, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak recrudesced again:

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Wozzie has never, ever done that.  He is exceedingly
    dishonest and dangerously delusional.  All he has to
    do is show his "proof" and it will be ripped to
    shreds, and he knows it.  That's why he doesn't show
    it.  He's so scared he's pooping his pants.

    Python, call the nurse now!

    Yes, I did.

    Blustering isn't a valid proof.  All Wozzie has to do is
    show his "proof" again or give a link, but he won't do
    that because he is lying again.

    Pointed directly 2 denying itself predictions of the
    physics of your idiot guru,

    All he has to do is SHOW it, but he can't because he
    isn't competent.

    Harrie, poor trash, I've shown it dosens of time
    here, last time just some minutes before the
    post you were answerring.

    There's the record above which goes back to yesterday,
    showing that Wozzie is lying again. The record goes
    back days and weeks amd months showing that Wozzie has
    been lying for at least that long.

    How likely is it that no reputable physicist or
    mathematician has refuted or disproven relativity,
    but a mathematically-challenged "information engineer"
    who denies information has done so?

    It's 100% likely, because it has happened.

    No, it hasn't. Wozzie is a congenital liar. He can prove
    he's not by posting a link to his "proof" but he won't
    because it's nonexistent.

    "Reputable" physicists, BTW? A good joke, Harrie.

    "Reputable" "information engineer"? A good joke, Wozzie.

    And what's wrong in "information denying" when the
    information is some absurd lie of a bunch of religious
    maniacs?

    What's wrong is that Wozzie is incompetent at deciding
    what information is true and what is false. Being a
    mathematically-challenged non compos mentis means his
    opinions are most untrustworthy.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 17:05:41 2024
    W dniu 24.06.2024 o 16:50, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 24.06.2024 o 13:45, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 23.06.2024 o 22:52, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak recrudesced again:

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent

    Wozzie has never, ever done that.  He is exceedingly
    dishonest and dangerously delusional.  All he has to
    do is show his "proof" and it will be ripped to
    shreds, and he knows it.  That's why he doesn't show
    it.  He's so scared he's pooping his pants.

    Python, call the nurse now!

    Yes, I did.
    Blustering isn't a valid proof.  All Wozzie has to do is
    show his "proof" again or give a link, but he won't do
    that because he is lying again.
    Pointed directly 2 denying itself predictions of the
    physics of your idiot guru,
    All he has to do is SHOW it, but he can't because he
    isn't competent.

    Harrie, poor trash, I've shown it dosens of time
    here, last time just some minutes before the
    post you were answerring.

    There's the record above which goes back to yesterday,
    showing that Wozzie is lying again.  The record goes
    back days and weeks amd months showing that Wozzie has
    been lying for at least that long.


    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent
    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering. But you
    will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.

    What's wrong is that Wozzie is incompetent at deciding
    what information is true and what is false.

    Of course, information from a religious maniac
    insisting that Nature Herself was speaking to
    him and his idiot gurus and is responsible
    for their absurd, inconsistent mumble - is
    false.


      Being a
    mathematically-challenged non compos mentis means his
    opinions are most untrustworthy.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 16:58:59 2024
    Maciej Wozniak lied, blustered, insulted and slandered:

    W dniu 24.06.2024 o 16:50, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    Harrie, poor trash, I've shown it dosens of time
    here, last time just some minutes before the
    post you were answerring.

    There's the record above which goes back to yesterday,
    showing that Wozzie is lying again.  The record goes
    back days and weeks amd months showing that Wozzie has
    been lying for at least that long.

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent
    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering. But you
    will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.

    All Wozzie can do is lie, bluster, insult and
    slander ad nauseam.

    What's wrong is that Wozzie is incompetent
    at deciding what information is true and
    what is false.

    Of course, information from a religious maniac
    insisting that Nature Herself was speaking to
    him and his idiot gurus and is responsible
    for their absurd, inconsistent mumble - is
    false.

    More lies and blustering, insulting and slander.

    Being a mathematically-challenged non compos
    mentis means his opinions are most untrustworthy.

    Since he didn't answer this charge, his silence
    implies consent. He is incapable of thinking
    cogently.

    “We defined thinking as integrating data and arriving
    at correct answers…. Most people do that stunt just
    well enough to get to the corner store and back
    without breaking a leg.” -- Robert A. Heinlein

    There is no need to answer his empty posts until he
    becomes honest and comes clean. His actions have
    proven him a dishonest fool. It's best to avoid him
    like the plague.

    “Ninety-nine percent of the people in the world are
    fools and the rest of us are in great danger of
    contagion.” – Thornton Wilder

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 19:47:27 2024
    W dniu 24.06.2024 o 18:58, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak lied, blustered, insulted and slandered:

    W dniu 24.06.2024 o 16:50, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    Harrie, poor trash, I've shown it dosens of time
    here, last time just some minutes before the
    post you were answerring.
    There's the record above which goes back to yesterday,
    showing that Wozzie is lying again.  The record goes
    back days and weeks amd months showing that Wozzie has
    been lying for at least that long.

    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent
    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering. But you
    will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.

    All Wozzie can do is lie, bluster, insult and
    slander ad nauseam.

    What's wrong is that Wozzie is incompetent
    at deciding what information is true and
    what is false.

    Of course, information from a religious maniac
    insisting that Nature Herself was speaking to
    him and his idiot gurus and is responsible
    for their absurd, inconsistent mumble - is
    false.

    More lies and blustering, insulting and slander.


    See, trash - I've proven the moronic mumble
    of your idiot guru to be not even consistent
    and you can do nothing about it spsrt of
    barking, insulting and slandering. But you
    will do what you can for the glory of your
    moronic church - that's what it's training
    its doggies for, after all.


    Being a mathematically-challenged non compos
    mentis means his opinions are most untrustworthy.

    Since he didn't answer this charge, his silence
    implies consent.

    No, it doesn't. Just some more logic of a
    complete idiot.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 24 22:43:08 2024
    Maciej Wozniak lied, blustered, insulted and slandered:

    [lies, bluster, insults and slanders deleted]

    Being a mathematically-challenged non compos mentis who
    is a congenital liar in complete denial of reality, his
    opinions are totally worthless.

    So let's deal with the topic of this thread: space and
    spacetime. I find the basic concept of string theory
    very compelling: that is, elementary particles are not
    points as the standard model posits. In the real world
    there is no such thing as a dimensionless point. It's
    a very good assumption because the string theory particles
    are way smaller than we can detect, but presuming
    elementary particles have extension in space is surely
    correct, even though strings may not be.

    Some of the things that string theory leads to, however,
    are very interesting, such as M-theory and branes. The
    ekpyrotic theory is one that sets forth a reason why the
    big bang happened:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekpyrotic_universe

    although I disagree with a cyclic universe as presented.
    Anyway, that's not necessarily a given in the theory.
    The universe may still be cyclic without a contraction
    (in agreement with the present information that the
    expansion is accelerating. The energy for a bang comes
    from the bashing of an adjacent brain into ours, as
    proposed in the original theory and, if it happened once,
    why couldn't it happen again? And again, and again, and
    again?

    This would shoot down the idea that spacetime (and space)
    only extends as far as the last bang (the one nearest and
    dearest to our hearts) has had time to expand.

    And then the question arises: what would be the effects
    of a previous band on us?

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 25 05:53:16 2024
    W dniu 25.06.2024 o 00:43, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak lied, blustered, insulted and slandered:

    [lies, bluster, insults and slanders deleted]

    Being a mathematically-challenged non compos mentis who
    is a congenital liar in complete denial of reality, his
    opinions are totally worthless.

    So let's deal with the topic of this thread: space and
    spacetime.  I find the basic concept of string theory
    very compelling: that is, elementary particles are not
    points as the standard model posits.  In the real world
    there is no such thing as a dimensionless point.  It's
    a very good assumption because the string theory particles
    are way smaller than we can detect, but presuming
    elementary particles have extension in space is surely
    correct, even though strings may not be.

    Some of the things that string theory leads to, however,
    are very interesting, such as M-theory and branes.  The
    ekpyrotic theory is one that sets forth a reason why the
    big bang happened:


    And in the meantime in the real world -
    forbidden by your moronic church "improper"
    clocks keep measuring improper t'=t in
    improper seconds.

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Fri Jun 21 22:24:25 2024
    On 6/20/2024 12:53 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 18:01, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 20.06.2024 o 15:45, gharnagel pisze:

    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    Just more repetitions and lies.  That's all Harrie has.
    Posted the proof dosens of times here and will post
    it many times more, be sure, trash.
    Wozzie is delusional, pretending he has posted "proofs" when

    OK, trash - an observer going with c/2 through
    Solar system is going to measure the length of
    a day. What is the prediction of the physics
    of your idiot guru for the result? No precision
    better than 1% needed.

    A "day"?  What is a "day"?

    A day is a day, Harrie. You're an incredible
    idiot, sure, but you've  heard of days, haven't
    you?

    Which day, janitor? There are 8 planets in the solar system with Jupiter
    having a day something like 10 hours long, while Venus has a day about
    2/3s of an Earth year. (and if you whine "butwhataboutPluto" fine, 9
    planets if you want). Plus any number of minor planets, moons, all with different days.

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  • From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 26 23:00:31 2024
    XPost: sci.physics, sci.math

    Einstein was the greatest bungler of all time.
    Sooner Arindam's physics gets followed the better.

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to bertietaylor on Thu Jun 27 09:40:49 2024
    XPost: sci.physics, sci.math

    On 6/26/2024 7:00 PM, bertietaylor wrote:
    Einstein was the greatest bungler of all time.
    Sooner Arindam's physics gets followed the better.

    But Arindam (that's you) doesn't even have any physics.

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  • From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 28 03:40:42 2024
    XPost: sci.physics, sci.math

    The moron Moroney is more dishonest than stupid.

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  • From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 28 14:09:19 2024
    XPost: sci.physics, sci.math

    Basically a moral and intellectual coward.

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  • From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 28 23:03:46 2024
    XPost: sci.physics, sci.math

    What is truthful about you?

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