• Re: SpaceTime

    From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 30 07:48:14 2024
    Am Dienstag000005, 05.04.2022 um 19:28 schrieb The Starmaker:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    If you believe in spacetime
    then you have to believe that
    time and space
    goes slow
    or fast
    as
    spacetime particles.

    spacetime particles
    goes slow or fast.

    One particle of spacetime
    can move slow or fast.

    Or a wave of
    spacetime particles
    can move in spacetime.

    When time goes slow
    the particle goes slow.

    It's dat simple.

    I'm aware that for all of yous spacetime is beyond your understanding and not found in textbooks...(as i describe it)

    maybe I need to come down to your levels..

    (yous have differculties with the machinery running the whole universe) >>>
    Let me break it down simply to your levels...

    'spacetime particles'

    A particle of spacetime is simply
    a negative particle of space and
    a positive particle of time
    and you put both together..
    you have a complete
    positive and negative particle.

    Like a battery.

    Look at a battery
    and you'll see a positive
    on one side and a negative
    on the other side.

    + and a -

    A spacetime particle consists
    of a + and a -.

    Space is negative energy
    Time, is positive.

    Spacetime consist of particles.

    I don't know any other way to help you understand it.

    That also means Time is...positive energy.

    In other words, a spacetime particle contains...mass.

    Spacetime is simply what exists, if you split absolutely nothing in a:

    positive space with positive time and positive mass

    and a

    negative space space with negative time and negative mass.

    The inhabitants of the anti-world of negative time actually believe, the
    other world (which we regard as positive) is the negative one (and they themselves positive).

    This is a feature of bi-quaterniones and our world therefore a
    sub-chapter of a quaternion field, which we call 'spacetime'.

    TH

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 30 13:30:37 2024
    W dniu 30.05.2024 o 07:48, Thomas Heger pisze:

    Spacetime is simply what exists, if you split absolutely nothing in a:

    positive space with positive time and positive mass

    and a

    negative space space with negative time and negative mass.

    The inhabitants of the anti-world of negative time actually believe, the


    The inhabitants of fiction actually always believe what
    the author of the fiction wants them to.

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  • From Tom Roberts@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Thu May 30 23:25:50 2024
    On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
    Spacetime is simply what exists, [...]

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you
    write.

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in the
    real world.

    Tom Roberts

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 31 09:17:06 2024
    Am Donnerstag000030, 30.05.2024 um 13:30 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
    W dniu 30.05.2024 o 07:48, Thomas Heger pisze:

    Spacetime is simply what exists, if you split absolutely nothing in a:

    positive space with positive time and positive mass

    and a

    negative space space with negative time and negative mass.

    The inhabitants of the anti-world of negative time actually believe, the


    The inhabitants of fiction actually always believe what
    the author of the fiction wants them to.

    In this case I'm author and believer, too.

    TH

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 31 09:16:04 2024
    Am Freitag000031, 31.05.2024 um 06:25 schrieb Tom Roberts:
    On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
    Spacetime is simply what exists, [...]

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you
    write.

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in the
    real world.

    you think so, but not me.

    I think, that what we call 'real world' is a sub-chapter of spacetime.

    What we call 'real world' is mainly an image, which we receive from the
    past (hence not really real).


    TH

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Tom Roberts on Sat Jun 1 13:35:08 2024
    Tom Roberts wrote:

    On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Spacetime is simply what exists, [...]

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you
    write.

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in the
    real world.

    Tom Roberts

    I tend to think of physics that way, too, but I was watching this
    episode
    of How the Universe Works called "The Mystery of Space Time" and had a
    few
    issues with it:

    "Space-time is the fabric of our reality"

    "The universe is made of space-time"

    "Whatever the substance is, time and space bound together, that's
    expanding
    and creating the universe we see around us. It's everything.
    Space-time
    is what the universe really is."

    And they were discussing the beginning of the universe and inflation
    and
    expansion speeding up. Well, I have different explanations.

    Gary

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 1 19:48:06 2024
    W dniu 31.05.2024 o 06:25, Tom Roberts pisze:
    On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
    Spacetime is simply what exists, [...]

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you
    write.

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in the
    real world.

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you
    write.
    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships
    gedanken/fabricated by some religious maniacs, like yourself.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 1 22:37:13 2024
    W dniu 01.06.2024 o 21:53, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 06/01/2024 10:48 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 31.05.2024 o 06:25, Tom Roberts pisze:
    On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
    Spacetime is simply what exists, [...]

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a
    fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you
    write.

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in the
    real world.

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a
    fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you
    write.
    Spacetime is a MODEL  of spatial-temporal relationships
    gedanken/fabricated by some religious maniacs, like yourself.



    Space-Time is a perfectly good idea of a


    Measured its goodness? Or just sure it
    must be perfectly good because you're
    sooooooo best?



    continuous manifold of
    Euclidean space


    A lie, of course, your idiot guru has rejected
    Euclidean math as it didn't want to fit his
    madness.

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 2 08:01:43 2024
    Am Samstag000001, 01.06.2024 um 15:35 schrieb gharnagel:
    Tom Roberts wrote:

    On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Spacetime is simply what exists, [...]

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a
    fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you
    write.

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in the
    real world.

    Tom Roberts

    I tend to think of physics that way, too, but I was watching this
    episode
    of How the Universe Works called "The Mystery of Space Time" and had a
    few
    issues with it:

    "Space-time is the fabric of our reality"

    "The universe is made of space-time"

    "Whatever the substance is, time and space bound together, that's
    expanding
    and creating the universe we see around us.  It's everything. Space-time
    is what the universe really is."

    Well, sounds good!

    I had written kind of 'book' about this idea and called it 'structured spacetime'.

    This can be found here:

    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

    The idea behind it is quite simpel:

    if GR and QM are somehow valid, there must be a way to bring both
    systems into a consistent relation.

    My own approach was: start at the GR side and with some sort of real
    existing spacetime.

    The observed world is then the local 'subchapter', which is seen from
    where we (or any other observer) are placed.

    This world has to have fewer dimensions than spacetime.

    Spacetime must also be coordinates free and having no beginning and no end.

    Seen from our local perspective this looks different (hence big bang
    theory), but we and our perspective are not particularily important.

    ...


    TH

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 2 08:20:56 2024
    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 08:01, Thomas Heger pisze:
    Am Samstag000001, 01.06.2024 um 15:35 schrieb gharnagel:
    Tom Roberts wrote:

    On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:

    Spacetime is simply what exists, [...]

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a
    fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you
    write.

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in the
    real world.

    Tom Roberts

    I tend to think of physics that way, too, but I was watching this
    episode
    of How the Universe Works called "The Mystery of Space Time" and had a
    few
    issues with it:

    "Space-time is the fabric of our reality"

    "The universe is made of space-time"

    "Whatever the substance is, time and space bound together, that's
    expanding
    and creating the universe we see around us.  It's everything. Space-time
    is what the universe really is."

    Well, sounds good!

    Mystical mumble can indeed sound good
    for mysticians.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 2 08:18:18 2024
    W dniu 01.06.2024 o 22:46, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 06/01/2024 01:37 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 01.06.2024 o 21:53, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 06/01/2024 10:48 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 31.05.2024 o 06:25, Tom Roberts pisze:
    On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
    Spacetime is simply what exists, [...]

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a >>>>> fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you >>>>> write.

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in the >>>>> real world.

    No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a
    fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you >>>> write.
    Spacetime is a MODEL  of spatial-temporal relationships
    gedanken/fabricated by some religious maniacs, like yourself.



    Space-Time is a perfectly good idea of a


    Measured its goodness? Or just sure it
    must be perfectly good because you're
    sooooooo best?



    continuous manifold of
    Euclidean space


    A lie, of course, your idiot guru has rejected
    Euclidean math as it didn't want to fit his
    madness.


    Einstein didn't, he entertained different coordinate settings
    and that tensors connect them, then though he at some point
    in his expressed opinion said silly things about simultaneity,
    later his expressed opinion included a clock hypothesis and
    a "the time", where he introduces the "spacial" for the "special"
    contra the "spatial" with respect to "t".

    The mumble of the idiot was not even consistent.
    And, yes, later on, in his GR shit, his madness
    reached the point when he rejected basic [Euclidean]
    math - because it didn't want to fit his postulates.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Sun Jun 2 12:48:40 2024
    Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000001, 01.06.2024 um 15:35 schrieb gharnagel:

    Tom Roberts wrote:

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in
    the real world.

    Tom Roberts

    I tend to think of physics that way, too, but I was watching this
    episode of How the Universe Works called "The Mystery of Space Time"
    and had a few issues with it:

    "Space-time is the fabric of our reality"

    "The universe is made of space-time"

    "Whatever the substance is, time and space bound together, that's
    expanding
    and creating the universe we see around us.  It's everything.
    Space-time
    is what the universe really is."

    Well, sounds good!

    Since we don't really understand what "space-time" is, we're not nailed
    down to a particular mindset. I believe that the equations of GR are
    more
    correct than the notion of space-time.

    “spacetime is likely to be an approximate description of something
    quite
    different.” – Steven Carlip

    That's not saying GR is absolutely correct, either.

    I had written kind of 'book' about this idea and called it 'structured spacetime'.

    This can be found here:

    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

    The idea behind it is quite simpel:

    if GR and QM are somehow valid, there must be a way to bring both
    systems into a consistent relation.

    My own approach was: start at the GR side and with some sort of real
    existing spacetime.

    Or one could start from the QM side. Might the virtual particle sea be
    the basis of space-time?

    The observed world is then the local 'subchapter', which is seen from
    where we (or any other observer) are placed.

    This world has to have fewer dimensions than spacetime.

    Aren't dimensions just a human way of looking at reality? Anyway, I
    have a hard time dispensing with them :-) I would say that our
    description
    of reality probably needs more than four dimensions.

    Spacetime must also be coordinates free and having no beginning and no
    end.

    If you look at the Schwarzschild metric:

    ds^2 = (1 - 2GM/rc^2)c^2 dt^2 - dr^2/(1 - 2GM/r) - r^2 dOmega^2

    and apply it to the whole universe, rs = 2GM/c^2 is MANY orders of
    magnitude
    larger than the purported size of the universe. So the notion that
    space-time
    is limited to how far the expansion has proceeded is ludicrous.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 2 16:47:51 2024
    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 14:48, gharnagel pisze:
    Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am Samstag000001, 01.06.2024 um 15:35 schrieb gharnagel:

    Tom Roberts wrote:

    Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in
    the real world.

    Tom Roberts
    I tend to think of physics that way, too, but I was watching this
    episode of How the Universe Works called "The Mystery of Space Time"
    and had a few issues with it:
    "Space-time is the fabric of our reality"
    "The universe is made of space-time"
    "Whatever the substance is, time and space bound together, that's
    expanding
    and creating the universe we see around us.  It's everything.
    Space-time
    is what the universe really is."

    Well, sounds good!

    Since we don't really understand what "space-time" is,

    Since you don't, you really should shut up,
    Harrie.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Sun Jun 2 16:57:28 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 14:48, gharnagel pisze:

    Since we don't really understand what "space-time" is,

    Since you don't, you really should shut up,
    Harrie.


    Pot, kettle, black, Wozzie-fool. You don't seem to understand
    anything, so your fickle finger points right back at you :-))

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 2 19:07:21 2024
    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 18:57, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 14:48, gharnagel pisze:

    Since we don't really understand what "space-time" is,

    Since you don't, you really should shut up,
    Harrie.


    Pot, kettle, black, Wozzie-fool.  You don't seem to understand

    I seem - only bercause you don't really understand,
    what you're even admitting (even such a piece
    of fanatic shit can't lie 100% of time).

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Ross Finlayson on Sun Jun 2 17:48:12 2024
    Ross Finlayson wrote:

    Most people know that dead-reckoning isn't really a thing,
    then there's wide reliance on the constancy of light-speed,
    and its effectively large value.


    Actually, the speed of light is really, really slow compared
    to the size of the universe. This, of course, is a proof
    that tachyons MUST exist.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 2 20:17:35 2024
    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 19:13, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 06/02/2024 09:57 AM, gharnagel wrote:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 14:48, gharnagel pisze:

    Since we don't really understand what "space-time" is,

    Since you don't, you really should shut up,
    Harrie.


    Pot, kettle, black, Wozzie-fool.  You don't seem to understand
    anything, so your fickle finger points right back at you :-))

    I'd only heard of that after there was re-syndicated "Laugh-In"
    on the free OTA television I used to watch.

    I was like "this is amusing, yet what a bunch of flakes".
    Horn-dogs and flakes, ....

    I quit watching television about a year ago yet have
    already watched most what's considered "syndicated" television,
    or the '70's and '80's and some of the '60's as it were.


    There is an idea that Maciej basically _is_ a tea-kettle,
    and all he has to look at all day is the Parameterized-Post-Newtonian,
    then also a translation chart to Naive-Einstein-SR's-Wrong-GR,
    and he always has to re-compute to reflect what he thinks people
    either way need the numbers both ways, and erupts "mumble".



    Of course the "Parameterized Post-Newtonian" _is_ the ephemeris
    in effect, with regards to Earthly things the things near Earth.

    Most people know that dead-reckoning isn't really a thing,
    then there's wide reliance on the constancy of light-speed,
    and its effectively large value.


    And in the meantime in the real world - forbidden
    by your bunch of mumbling religious maniacs "improper"
    clocks of TAI and GPS keep measuring t'=t, just like
    all serious clocks always did.


    So, in a sense it's like "two wrongs".



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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 2 21:01:22 2024
    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 20:54, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 06/02/2024 11:17 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 19:13, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 06/02/2024 09:57 AM, gharnagel wrote:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 02.06.2024 o 14:48, gharnagel pisze:

    Since we don't really understand what "space-time" is,

    Since you don't, you really should shut up,
    Harrie.


    Pot, kettle, black, Wozzie-fool.  You don't seem to understand
    anything, so your fickle finger points right back at you :-))

    I'd only heard of that after there was re-syndicated "Laugh-In"
    on the free OTA television I used to watch.

    I was like "this is amusing, yet what a bunch of flakes".
    Horn-dogs and flakes, ....

    I quit watching television about a year ago yet have
    already watched most what's considered "syndicated" television,
    or the '70's and '80's and some of the '60's as it were.


    There is an idea that Maciej basically _is_ a tea-kettle,
    and all he has to look at all day is the Parameterized-Post-Newtonian,
    then also a translation chart to Naive-Einstein-SR's-Wrong-GR,
    and he always has to re-compute to reflect what he thinks people
    either way need the numbers both ways, and erupts "mumble".



    Of course the "Parameterized Post-Newtonian" _is_ the ephemeris
    in effect, with regards to Earthly things the things near Earth.

    Most people know that dead-reckoning isn't really a thing,
    then there's wide reliance on the constancy of light-speed,
    and its effectively large value.


    And in the meantime in the real world - forbidden
    by your bunch of mumbling religious maniacs "improper"
    clocks of TAI and GPS keep measuring t'=t, just like
    all serious clocks always did.


    So, in a sense it's like "two wrongs".




    A common reduction expressing "incredulity, lack thereof":  "Duh".

    Stop making wise faces, poor fanatic idiot,
    the mumble of your insane guru was not even
    consistent and that has been provven.



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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 2 21:34:56 2024
    Le 02/06/2024 à 19:48, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Actually, the speed of light is really, really slow compared
    to the size of the universe. This, of course, is a proof
    that tachyons MUST exist.

    Tu dis n'importe quoi.

    Les tachyons ne peuvent pas exister, car il s'agirait d'une absurdité physique.

    Vous confondez possibilité technologique et possibilité théorique.

    Comme si, un jour, on pouvait dessiner un carré rond, ou synthétiser de l'eau déshydratée.

    Vous ne vous rendez pas compte que ce n'est pas une propriété
    technologique qui meut les photons à cette vitesse, mais une propriété
    de l'espace et du temps : l'anisochronie.

    Je reste stupéfait par la réflexion stupide des hommes qui mettent la charrue avant les boeufs.

    Les hommes ont découvert la notions de dyschronotropie (Poincaré 1905)
    avant la découverte de l'anisochronie. C'est très étrange.

    Un peu comme si nous débarquions sur une autre planète, et que nous remarquons qu'ils ont découvert
    la pénicilline avant l'électricité, ou le frigidaire avant la roue.

    C'est très amusant.

    Si ça se trouve, nous sommes la seule planète intelligente dans un
    rayon de quinze à trente milliards d'années lumière a avoir réussi cet étonnant "exploit" pendant plus de 120 ans, maintenant.

    R.H.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 3 00:04:20 2024
    Le 03/06/2024 à 01:22, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    One theoretical problem for tachyons is the purported possibility that they cause
    violations of causality.

    Physicists pose two problems, that of ignorance and that of arrogance.

    They pose the problem of ignorance, because they do not understand at all
    the notion of anisochrony, which alone explains the practical
    impossibility of exceeding the speed of light.

    It's as absurd as looking for round squares and dehydrated waters.

    I repeat, it's not that it's technologically impossible, it's that it's
    absurd.

    This would amount to assuming a speed faster than an infinitely fast speed
    (if we correctly understand this notion which I already explained in
    1986).

    They pose the problem of arrogance becouse they insult instead of
    thinking.

    R.H.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Sun Jun 2 23:22:38 2024
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 02/06/2024 à 19:48, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    Actually, the speed of light is really, really slow compared
    to the size of the universe. This, of course, is a proof
    that tachyons MUST exist.

    Tu dis n'importe quoi.

    Les tachyons ne peuvent pas exister, car il s'agirait d'une absurdité physique.

    Not at all. It's not up to us to say what can and cannot be. It
    is absurd to pretend that we are God.

    Vous confondez possibilité technologique et possibilité théorique.

    I'm not confusing them, but confirming the existence of tachyons will
    be difficult. The most likely candidate to be tachyons are neutrinos,
    but neutrinos are produced by nuclear interactions and, therefore, most
    have energies much higher than their "proper" mass and are traveling at
    speeds very close to that of light. So close that we can't determine
    whether they are moving slightly slower or faster than c.

    So, yes, it becomes a technology problem, as you imply. One
    theoretical
    problem for tachyons is the purported possibility that they cause
    violations of causality. This is not possible, however, as asserted in
    DOI: 10.13189/ujpa.2023.170101.

    Comme si, un jour, on pouvait dessiner un carré rond, ou synthétiser
    de
    l'eau déshydratée.

    Now your claiming impossibility on theoretical grounds, and doing by
    analogy, not science. That is not a valid science.

    Vous ne vous rendez pas compte que ce n'est pas une propriété technologique qui meut les photons à cette vitesse, mais une propriété
    de l'espace et du temps : l'anisochronie.

    Bradyons, which make up us, cannot reach the speed of light, but you
    forget that photons are born going the speed of light. Tachyons are
    born
    going faster than light. And they don't violate causality.

    Je reste stupéfait par la réflexion stupide des hommes qui mettent la charrue avant les boeufs.

    More invalid analogies.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 3 00:17:19 2024
    Le 03/06/2024 à 01:22, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    That is not a valid science.

    :))

    And tachyons? Yes?

    And they don't violate causality.

    :))

    It's impossible.

    They will prefer to sink into the absurd and the ridiculous loss of
    causality.

    Note that the speed of neutrinos is c, because their transaction is instantaneous (zero natural time).

    It is true that if a supernovae explodes, the neutrinos, whose speed is
    not modified by the interactions of intergalactic gases, can arrive
    slightly before the light (supernovae of 1987).

    But this does not come from the fact that they are faster than light (this
    is impossible) but from the fact that light is slightly slowed down by the presence of tiny quantities of gas present in interstellar environments
    (this which is no longer the speed of light in a perfect vacuum).

    R.H.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Mon Jun 3 01:36:45 2024
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 03/06/2024 à 01:22, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    One theoretical problem for tachyons is the purported possibility
    that
    they cause violations of causality.

    Physicists pose two problems, that of ignorance and that of arrogance.

    Dr. Hachel represents those problems, too.

    They pose the problem of ignorance, because they do not understand at
    all the notion of anisochrony, which alone explains the practical impossibility of exceeding the speed of light.

    Dr. Hachel is exemplifying his arrogance, pretending that he is God.

    It's as absurd as looking for round squares and dehydrated waters.

    And blatherating about irrelevant analogies.

    I repeat, it's not that it's technologically impossible, it's that it's

    absurd.

    “In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd.”
    – Miguel de Cervantes

    “The most absurd and reckless aspirations have sometimes led to extraordinary success.” -- Luc de Clapiers

    “If at first the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it.”
    -- Albert Einstein

    So certain is Dr. Hachel of his pronouncement from Olympus :-)

    "Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. --
    Voltaire

    This would amount to assuming a speed faster than an infinitely fast
    speed
    (if we correctly understand this notion which I already explained in
    1986).


    Nope. Consider synchronized clocks at x = 0 (t1) and x = L (t2). A
    pulse of particles passes x = 0 at t1 = 0 and passes t2 at time t2.

    If t2 - t1 = L/c, then the particles are traveling at the speed of
    light. If t2 - t1 = 0, then the particles are traveling infinitely
    fast. Since t2 - t1 =0 is less than t2 - t1 = L/c, Dr. Hachel's
    assertion is refuted.

    They pose the problem of arrogance becouse they insult instead of
    thinking.

    R.H.

    I'm afraid Dr. Hachel is guilty of not thinking correctly.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Mon Jun 3 01:52:50 2024
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 03/06/2024 à 01:22, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    That is not a valid science.

    :))

    And tachyons? Yes?

    They are hypothetical until confirmed by experiment, but they
    cannot be refuted without experimental evidence. Bloviating
    doesn't count as evidence.

    And they don't violate causality.

    :))

    It's impossible.

    “When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible,
    he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is
    impossible, he
    is very probably wrong.” -- Arthur C. Clarke

    And Dr. Hachel is not even a scientist. His three Nobels in basket
    weaving aren't science, either.

    They will prefer to sink into the absurd and the ridiculous loss of causality.

    Nope. DOI: 10.13189/ujpa.2023.170101 demonstrates that there is no
    proof
    that they would violate causality. Try reading something for a change
    instead of making pompous and vacuous assertions.

    Note that the speed of neutrinos is c, because their transaction is instantaneous (zero natural time).

    Repetition of vacuous thinking is still invalid.

    It is true that if a supernovae explodes, the neutrinos, whose speed is

    not modified by the interactions of intergalactic gases, can arrive
    slightly before the light (supernovae of 1987).

    Three hours, actually, from 168000 light-years away. Attributing all
    of that 3 hours to intergalactic gas is pure speculation.

    But this does not come from the fact that they are faster than light
    (this is impossible)

    If scientists stopped when confronted with the impossible, we would not
    have flight, medicine, heart surgery, brain surgery, electric lights, electricity, or dynamite (Nobel prizes).

    Dr. Hachel only proves that his only claim to fame is 3 Nobels in
    basket
    weaving.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Ross Finlayson on Mon Jun 3 02:12:18 2024
    Ross Finlayson wrote:

    On 06/02/2024 04:22 PM, gharnagel wrote:

    More invalid analogies.

    Yeah, if you assume causality, then tachyons can't be fantastical,
    they're only the result of something that is or did.

    The neutrino physics are mostly about supersymmetry.

    Nope. Neutrinos are firmly ensconced in the Standard model of
    particle physics, while supersymmetric particles are not.

    If you assume lack of causality it's pretty easy to arrive at
    itself.

    That's the problem with the conventional view of FTL phenomena.
    It comes from the Lorentz transform:

    (1) dx' = gamma(dx - v dt)
    (2) dt' = gamma(dt - v dx/c^2)

    From that comes

    dx'/dt' = u' = (dx - v dt)/(dt - v dx/c^2)

    u' = (u - v)/(1 - uv/c^2)

    u' becomes infinite when u = c^2/v, and infinity is a red flag
    in physics. It means that the math becomes useless at and beyond
    that point. Physicists, who should know better, have persisted
    into that real and come up with all kinds of frivolous assertions
    like time going backwards, negative energy, causality violation
    and a "reinterpretation principle."

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 3 05:23:46 2024
    W dniu 03.06.2024 o 04:35, Ross Finlayson pisze:
    On 06/02/2024 07:12 PM, gharnagel wrote:
    Ross Finlayson wrote:

    On 06/02/2024 04:22 PM, gharnagel wrote:

    More invalid analogies.

    Yeah, if you assume causality, then tachyons can't be fantastical,
    they're only the result of something that is or did.

    The neutrino physics are mostly about supersymmetry.

    Nope.  Neutrinos are firmly ensconced in the Standard model of
    particle physics, while supersymmetric particles are not.

    If you assume lack of causality it's pretty easy to arrive at
    itself.

    That's the problem with the conventional view of FTL phenomena.
    It comes from the Lorentz transform:

    (1) dx' = gamma(dx - v dt)
    (2) dt' = gamma(dt - v dx/c^2)

     From that comes

    dx'/dt' = u' = (dx - v dt)/(dt - v dx/c^2)

    u' = (u - v)/(1 - uv/c^2)

    u' becomes infinite when u = c^2/v, and infinity is a red flag
    in physics.  It means that the math becomes useless at and beyond
    that point.  Physicists, who should know better, have persisted
    into that real and come up with all kinds of frivolous assertions
    like time going backwards, negative energy, causality violation
    and a "reinterpretation principle."




    Mathematics really owes physics more and better
    mathematics

    And the most important contribution is
    announcing the oldest, very important
    and successful part false, as it didn't
    want to fit some symmetrical delusions
    of an insane crazie.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 3 05:20:11 2024
    W dniu 03.06.2024 o 03:52, gharnagel pisze:
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 03/06/2024 à 01:22, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

      That is not a valid science.

     :))

     And tachyons? Yes?

    They are hypothetical until confirmed by experiment, but they
    cannot be refuted without experimental evidence.

    Just like purple unicorns breathing
    with fire.

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 3 09:00:15 2024
    Am Sonntag000002, 02.06.2024 um 20:07 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
    On 06/02/2024 10:48 AM, gharnagel wrote:
    Ross Finlayson wrote:

    Most people know that dead-reckoning isn't really a thing,
    then there's wide reliance on the constancy of light-speed,
    and its effectively large value.


    Actually, the speed of light is really, really slow compared
    to the size of the universe.  This, of course, is a proof
    that tachyons MUST exist.

    That's a great idea, you'll find that most all the "-ino"
    partner particles for the "-on" particles are such super-luminal
    flux for the otherwise usual flow of things and flux of light.

    I don't get why optical light or nuclear radiation is called "electromagnetic" when it doesn't interact with the fields
    of electricity and magnetism at all. They're two different things.

    Lots of people rely on energy being everything or, you know,
    the quantity of exchange and interchange, yet, it's only of
    a particular form or exchange at any given time.

    This is that after the great "electron physics" and "ultraviolet
    catastrophe" is for a "neutrino physics" and "infrared perestroika",
    where both catastrophe and perestroika are the same term about
    openings in singularity theories, which are multiplicity theories.

    The Aspect-type experiments and photinos represent an own sort
    of re-flux about the photon sector.

    Anyways "electromagnetic radiation" isn't the same as "optical
    or radionuclear radiation".

    Why light follows the geoedesy though it's massless has it
    that the geodesy is still the shortest distance everywhere,
    while also there's Fresnel effects in the large, one avers.



    I still take the newpaper every day, yet I've found that
    the mindless feuilletons, constant pandering, and yellow
    journalism of the usual boob-tube media, are not very
    level-headed. There's also that many estimates of click-fraud
    in Internet media advertising are on the order of 20-50 percent
    or the profits, where you figure advertising successful works
    out about zero-sum. If Internet media advertising were regulated
    just like regular advertising, it would sort of be a thing,
    and taking uncommon profits and all, looks like wind-fall.



    The "Standard Model of Particle Physics" is sort of closed,
    yet there's a great and tremendous milieu of, "The Zoo",
    about things like muon physics and beta decay, and why
    it's a continuum mechanics again, and superluminal flux
    and larger or more global and total symmetries, again is
    about how it's a continuum mechanics.

    It's a continuum mechanics, ....


    Think about this:


    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

    I take spacetime of GR as 'background with features'.

    This could be electric fields, magnetism or even matter, if we regard
    timelike stable structures as material objects.

    Spacetime is essentially continous, but not in common space it is not.
    Why that?


    That is a question, which is easy to solve:

    if matter is a timelike stable structure and we humans are material
    objects, too, we regard our local subset of spacetime as real and
    devided into objects and background (space).

    But this is only the case for us in our current environment, equipped
    with our local axis of time.

    Other worlds exist besides our own, too, where material objects there
    are radiation for us, (because the other world has a local axis of time,
    which has an angle towards ours).

    TH





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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 3 09:57:21 2024
    W dniu 03.06.2024 o 09:00, Thomas Heger pisze:
    Am Sonntag000002, 02.06.2024 um 20:07 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
    On 06/02/2024 10:48 AM, gharnagel wrote:
    Ross Finlayson wrote:

    Most people know that dead-reckoning isn't really a thing,
    then there's wide reliance on the constancy of light-speed,
    and its effectively large value.


    Actually, the speed of light is really, really slow compared
    to the size of the universe.  This, of course, is a proof
    that tachyons MUST exist.

    That's a great idea, you'll find that most all the "-ino"
    partner particles for the "-on" particles are such super-luminal
    flux for the otherwise usual flow of things and flux of light.

    I don't get why optical light or nuclear radiation is called
    "electromagnetic" when it doesn't interact with the fields
    of electricity and magnetism at all. They're two different things.

    Lots of people rely on energy being everything or, you know,
    the quantity of exchange and interchange, yet, it's only of
    a particular form or exchange at any given time.

    This is that after the great "electron physics" and "ultraviolet
    catastrophe" is for a "neutrino physics" and "infrared perestroika",
    where both catastrophe and perestroika are the same term about
    openings in singularity theories, which are multiplicity theories.

    The Aspect-type experiments and photinos represent an own sort
    of re-flux about the photon sector.

    Anyways "electromagnetic radiation" isn't the same as "optical
    or radionuclear radiation".

    Why light follows the geoedesy though it's massless has it
    that the geodesy is still the shortest distance everywhere,
    while also there's Fresnel effects in the large, one avers.



    I still take the newpaper every day, yet I've found that
    the mindless feuilletons, constant pandering, and yellow
    journalism of the usual boob-tube media, are not very
    level-headed. There's also that many estimates of click-fraud
    in Internet media advertising are on the order of 20-50 percent
    or the profits, where you figure advertising successful works
    out about zero-sum. If Internet media advertising were regulated
    just like regular advertising, it would sort of be a thing,
    and taking uncommon profits and all, looks like wind-fall.



    The "Standard Model of Particle Physics" is sort of closed,
    yet there's a great and tremendous milieu of, "The Zoo",
    about things like muon physics and beta decay, and why
    it's a continuum mechanics again, and superluminal flux
    and larger or more global and total symmetries, again is
    about how it's a continuum mechanics.

    It's a continuum mechanics, ....


    Think about this:


    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ur3_giuk2l439fxUa8QHX4wTDxBEaM6lOlgVUa0cFU4/edit?usp=sharing

    I take spacetime of GR as 'background with features'.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space

    "a set together with a notion of distance between its elements"
    Can be set of what we're calling "real events" with a purely
    conceptual "interval".
    Of course, poor idiot Einstein was unable to do what he intended
    to right - and "singularities" came.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 4 14:51:52 2024
    Le 03/06/2024 à 04:12, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
    That's the problem with the conventional view of FTL phenomena.
    It comes from the Lorentz transform:

    (1) dx' = gamma(dx - v dt)
    (2) dt' = gamma(dt - v dx/c^2)

    From that comes

    dx'/dt' = u' = (dx - v dt)/(dt - v dx/c^2)

    u' = (u - v)/(1 - uv/c^2)

    u' becomes infinite when u = c^2/v, and infinity is a red flag
    in physics. It means that the math becomes useless at and beyond
    that point. Physicists, who should know better, have persisted
    into that real and come up with all kinds of frivolous assertions

    Absolutely.

    like time going backwards, negative energy, causality violation
    and a "reinterpretation principle."


    Yes, all this is not very normal.

    Pour ce qui est des transformations de Poincaré-Lorentz, données par le fameux mathématicien français,
    qui était plus fort que Newton, Einstein et Leibniz réunis, elles
    conduisent directement à:

    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?HqK7tE25UvDlFWACDo6XkDlMmc8@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    If we want longitudinal transformations, we set cosµ=1, sinµ=0.

    If we want transverse transformations, we set cosµ=0, sinµ=1.

    If we want other transformations, we use the cosines and sines
    corresponding to the chosen angle.

    It is very simple and at school level (14-16 years old).

    Mais ne le répétez pas, gardez cela secret, ça pourrait vous valoir des menaces de mort.

    Surtout en ces temps dramatiques de menaces nucléaires.

    R.H.

    --
    Posted by doctor Hachel, with french software Nemo : <http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=HqK7tE25UvDlFWACDo6XkDlMmc8@jntp>

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 4 19:26:20 2024
    Le 04/06/2024 à 16:51, Richard Hachel a écrit :
    Le 03/06/2024 à 04:12, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
    That's the problem with the conventional view of FTL phenomena.
    It comes from the Lorentz transform:

    (1) dx' = gamma(dx - v dt)
    (2) dt' = gamma(dt - v dx/c^2)

    From that comes

    dx'/dt' = u' = (dx - v dt)/(dt - v dx/c^2)

    u' = (u - v)/(1 - uv/c^2)

    u' becomes infinite when u = c^2/v, and infinity is a red flag
    in physics. It means that the math becomes useless at and beyond
    that point. Physicists, who should know better, have persisted
    into that real and come up with all kinds of frivolous assertions

    Absolutely.

    like time going backwards, negative energy, causality violation
    and a "reinterpretation principle."


    Yes, all this is not very normal.

    Pour ce qui est des transformations de Poincaré-Lorentz, données par le fameux
    mathématicien français,
    qui était plus fort que Newton, Einstein et Leibniz réunis, elles conduisent
    directement à:

    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?HqK7tE25UvDlFWACDo6XkDlMmc8@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    This is a formula that is part of standard SR (i.e. Einstein), unrelated
    to your idiotic rant.

    You've done that before, numerous time. You want a medal for that?

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 4 23:19:30 2024
    Le 04/06/2024 à 21:26, Python a écrit :
    This is a formula that is part of standard SR (i.e. Einstein), unrelated to your
    idiotic rant.

    You've done that before, numerous time. You want a medal for that?

    Mais non, je ne veux pas de médaille pour ça.

    Je te l'ai déjà expliqué mille fois, j'ai un doctorat et trois Nobel,
    et j'ai vraiment pas besoin de publicité.

    Je ne m'intéresse aux choses que dans la mesure où je les crois exactes,
    ou plus intéressantes, ou plus belles.

    Mais ce qui est sympa, c'est que tu reconnais que ma formule est bonne,
    c'est déjà ça.

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 5 07:02:14 2024
    W dniu 04.06.2024 o 21:26, Python pisze:
    Le 04/06/2024 à 16:51, Richard Hachel a écrit :
    Le 03/06/2024 à 04:12, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
    That's the problem with the conventional view of FTL phenomena.
    It comes from the Lorentz transform:

    (1) dx' = gamma(dx - v dt)
    (2) dt' = gamma(dt - v dx/c^2)

    From that comes

    dx'/dt' = u' = (dx - v dt)/(dt - v dx/c^2)

    u' = (u - v)/(1 - uv/c^2)

    u' becomes infinite when u = c^2/v, and infinity is a red flag
    in physics.  It means that the math becomes useless at and beyond
    that point.  Physicists, who should know better, have persisted
    into that real and come up with all kinds of frivolous assertions

     Absolutely.

    like time going backwards, negative energy, causality violation
    and a "reinterpretation principle."


    Yes, all this is not very normal.

    Pour ce qui est des transformations de Poincaré-Lorentz, données par
    le fameux mathématicien français,
    qui était plus fort que Newton, Einstein et Leibniz réunis, elles
    conduisent directement à:

    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?HqK7tE25UvDlFWACDo6XkDlMmc8@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    This is a formula that is part of standard SR (i.e. Einstein), unrelated


    Oh, stinker Python is opening its muzzle again,
    and trying again to pretend he knows something.
    Tell me, poor stinker, have you already learnt
    what a function is? Are you still trying to
    determine its properties applying a French
    definition of a different word?

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Python on Wed Jun 5 04:11:39 2024
    Python wrote:

    Le 04/06/2024 à 16:51, Richard Hachel a écrit :

    Pour ce qui est des transformations de Poincaré-Lorentz, données par
    le
    fameux mathématicien français, qui était plus fort que Newton,
    Einstein
    et Leibniz réunis, elles conduisent directement à:


    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?HqK7tE25UvDlFWACDo6XkDlMmc8@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    This is a formula that is part of standard SR (i.e. Einstein),
    unrelated
    to your idiotic rant.

    You've done that before, numerous time. You want a medal for that?

    Yes, it's correct. It is confirmed here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity-addition_formula

    I wouldn't have used an equation from L'homme avec trois Nobels without confirmation. Call me skeptical ...

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 5 07:04:16 2024
    W dniu 05.06.2024 o 06:11, gharnagel pisze:
    Python wrote:

    Le 04/06/2024 à 16:51, Richard Hachel a écrit :

    Pour ce qui est des transformations de Poincaré-Lorentz, données par
    le
    fameux mathématicien français, qui était plus fort que Newton,
    Einstein
    et Leibniz réunis, elles conduisent directement à:

    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?HqK7tE25UvDlFWACDo6XkDlMmc8@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    This is a formula that is part of standard SR (i.e. Einstein),
    unrelated
    to your idiotic rant.

    You've done that before, numerous time. You want a medal for that?

    Yes, it's correct.  It is confirmed here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity-addition_formula

    So what? The idiotic mumble of your idiotic
    guru was not even consistent, and it has
    been proven, poor halfbrain.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 5 10:46:37 2024
    Le 05/06/2024 à 06:11, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
    Python wrote:

    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?HqK7tE25UvDlFWACDo6XkDlMmc8@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    You've done that before, numerous time. You want a medal for that?

    Yes, it's correct.

    Good. And when will they give me my medal?

    R.H.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 5 11:00:53 2024
    Le 05/06/2024 à 06:11, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
    Python wrote:

    Le 04/06/2024 à 16:51, Richard Hachel a écrit :

    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?HqK7tE25UvDlFWACDo6XkDlMmc8@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    I wouldn't have used an equation from L'homme avec trois Nobels without confirmation.

    Ce qui frappe les enseignements de Richard Hachel, c'est la simplicité
    de l'homme et de ses équations.

    Pas de forfanterie, pas de grandiloquence, tout est don gratuit.

    Dans la simplicité.

    On peut aussi donner cette équation sous la forme des vitesses réelles,
    elle sera toute aussi juste.

    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?aRfZr-wbqozZwG5Evb_96adSzWM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    Pas la peine d'aller voir si c'est vrai.

    1. Je confirme
    2. Pas sûr que vous trouverez cette équation quelque part.

    N.B. Si quelqu'un veut la démonstration des équations, notamment de la première, qu'il le dise.

    C'est très simple à faire.

    R.H.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Wed Jun 5 12:05:59 2024
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 05/06/2024 à 06:11, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    I wouldn't have used an equation from L'homme avec trois Nobels
    without
    confirmation.

    On peut aussi donner cette équation sous la forme des vitesses
    réelles,

    elle sera toute aussi juste.

    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?aRfZr-wbqozZwG5Evb_96adSzWM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

    Pas la peine d'aller voir si c'est vrai.

    1. Je confirme
    2. Pas sûr que vous trouverez cette équation quelque part.

    But what does it mean? I could write down all kinds of equations with
    no
    reference to reality.

    N.B. Si quelqu'un veut la démonstration des équations, notamment de la première, qu'il le dise.

    C'est très simple à faire.

    R.H.

    But why would one want to?

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Wed Jun 5 11:55:56 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    So what? The idiotic mumble of your idiotic
    guru was not even consistent, and it has
    been proven, poor halfbrain.

    So what? The idiotic mumble of Wozzie-eighth-
    brain has been proven wrong many times over.
    Wozzie's post are not even readable, let alone
    consistent.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 5 14:39:31 2024
    W dniu 05.06.2024 o 13:55, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    So what? The idiotic mumble of your idiotic
    guru was not even consistent, and it has
    been proven, poor halfbrain.

    So what?

    So your bunch of religious maniacs is
    following a mumbling idiot. Often happens
    to religious maniacs, you know.

    And your barking, insults and slanders
    mean nothing.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 5 14:40:26 2024
    W dniu 05.06.2024 o 14:05, gharnagel pisze:
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Le 05/06/2024 à 06:11, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :

    I wouldn't have used an equation from L'homme avec trois Nobels
    without
    confirmation.
     On peut aussi donner cette équation sous la forme des vitesses
    réelles,

    elle sera toute aussi juste.
    <http://news2.nemoweb.net/jntp?aRfZr-wbqozZwG5Evb_96adSzWM@jntp/Data.Media:1>

     Pas la peine d'aller voir si c'est vrai.

     1. Je confirme
     2. Pas sûr que vous trouverez cette équation quelque part.

    But what does it mean?  I could write down all kinds of equations with
    no
    reference to reality.

    You could and you do, poor halfbrain.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Wed Jun 5 20:20:53 2024
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 05.06.2024 o 14:05, gharnagel pisze:

    But what does it mean?  I could write down all kinds of equations
    with
    no reference to reality.

    You could and you do, poor halfbrain.

    You can't understand equations that Do refer to reality, which proves
    you've only an eighth of a brain. That's why you disparage everything

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 6 07:28:02 2024
    W dniu 05.06.2024 o 22:20, gharnagel pisze:
    Maciej Wozniak wrote:

    W dniu 05.06.2024 o 14:05, gharnagel pisze:

    But what does it mean?  I could write down all kinds of equations
    with
    no reference to reality.

    You could and you do, poor halfbrain.

    You can't understand equations that Do refer to reality



    We know your "reality", poor halfbrain, you had
    to delete GPS clocks from it, as they didn't want
    to fit your precious equations.

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