• Is the theory of relativity a correct =?UTF-8?Q?theory=3F?=

    From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 17 22:54:50 2024
    Is the theory of relativity a correct theory?
    If you ask a moron, he'll say no.
    If you ask another idiot, he'll say yes.
    Both are wrong.
    An intelligent man, capable of correctly mastering the whole theory from A
    to Z, will say that it is partly true and partly false, and he will put
    the two camps back to back.

    R.H.

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 18 01:24:30 2024
    Le 18/05/2024 à 00:54, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Is the theory of relativity a correct theory?
    If you ask a moron, he'll say no.
    If you ask another idiot, he'll say yes.
    Both are wrong.
    An intelligent man, capable of correctly mastering the whole theory from
    A to Z, will say that it is partly true and partly false, and he will
    put the two camps back to back.

    M.D. Lengrand whining and whining again.

    Evading issues again and again.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 18 07:48:01 2024
    W dniu 18.05.2024 o 01:24, Python pisze:
    Le 18/05/2024 à 00:54, Richard "Hachel" Lengrand a écrit :
    Is the theory of relativity a correct theory?
    If you ask a moron, he'll say no.
    If you ask another idiot, he'll say yes.
    Both are wrong.
    An intelligent man, capable of correctly mastering the whole theory
    from A to Z, will say that it is partly true and partly false, and he
    will put the two camps back to back.

    M.D. Lengrand whining and whining again.

    Evading issues again and again.


    And poor idiot Python making wise faces
    and pretending to know some Incredible
    Mystery - again and again.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 18 07:46:18 2024
    W dniu 18.05.2024 o 00:54, Richard Hachel pisze:
    Is the theory of relativity a correct theory?
    If you ask a moron, he'll say no.
    If you ask another idiot, he'll say yes.
    Both are wrong.
    An intelligent man, capable of correctly mastering the whole theory from
    A to Z, will say that it is partly true and partly false, and he will
    put the two camps back to back.

    And in the meantime in the real world - forbidden
    "improper" clocks keep measuring improper t'=t in
    improper seconds.

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  • From bertietaylor@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 18 07:18:37 2024
    No.

    bt

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 19 21:36:04 2024
    W dniu 19.05.2024 o 21:22, JanPB pisze:
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Is the theory of relativity a correct theory?
    If you ask a moron, he'll say no.
    If you ask another idiot, he'll say yes.
    Both are wrong.
    An intelligent man, capable of correctly mastering the whole theory from
    A to Z, will say that it is partly true and partly false, and he will put

    the two camps back to back.

    You are overthinking this. The truth is simply that relativity is just
    like
    any other accepted theory in physics. No "partly" this or "partly"
    that.

    The only reason this particular theory is constantly being dissected,
    almost always incorrectly, by amateurs is that it's a theory with a
    low barrier of mathematical entry.

    Galilean/Newton's had lower and almost
    nobody tried. You just know nothing about
    the subject, you're just arrogant D-K
    layman being sure.
    And the real reason is -the mumble of your
    idiot guru was not even consistent, not
    even talking about violating ordunary
    meaning of important words.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 19 22:11:20 2024
    Le 19/05/2024 à 21:22, film.art@gmail.com (JanPB) a écrit :
    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Is the theory of relativity a correct theory?
    If you ask a moron, he'll say no.
    If you ask another idiot, he'll say yes.
    Both are wrong.
    An intelligent man, capable of correctly mastering the whole theory from
    A
    to Z, will say that it is partly true and partly false, and he will put

    the two camps back to back.

    You are overthinking this. The truth is simply that relativity is just
    like
    any other accepted theory in physics. No "partly" this or "partly"
    that.

    The only reason this particular theory is constantly being dissected,
    almost always incorrectly, by amateurs is that it's a theory with a
    low barrier of mathematical entry. This makes it vulnerable to probing
    by armchair critics who have no idea about anything else in physics, and
    thus
    don't understand where relativity came from and why would anyone (like Einstein) ever come up with such a "weird" thing.

    Theories which are far, FAR more bizarre, like quantum electrodynamics,
    are spared that fate because they are not accessible without a
    formidable
    mathematical foundation.

    --
    Jan

    C'est tout simplement qu'on ne peut pas voir les aberrations des dogmes si
    les calculs sont trop compliqués.

    Mais si les calculs sont simples, on peut les voir.

    Ainsi il est facile de remettre en cause la RR par l'étude des choses en vitesses apparentes, on peut voir très facilement que c'est absurde (voir
    mes discussions ici avec Python) mais JAMAIS les physiciens n'admettrons
    qu'il y a des choses absurdes : ils préfèreront insulter ou dire que "Le docteur Hachel n'est pas à la hauteur, c'est un crétin".

    Pourtant dire que pendant neuf ans de temps propre, un observateur peut observer un mobile avec une vitesse apparente de 4c (je parle de VITESSE APPARENTE) sur une distance de 7.2al, c'est absurde.

    Chez moi, la distance parcourue est de 36 al.

    C'est à la fois infiniment beau, infiniment logique, infiniment précis.

    Mais toujours, toujours, toujours, on me dira : "Tu n'es qu'un crétin qui
    ne comprend rien à rien".

    Quarante ans que les mêmes crétins me répètent la même chose sans
    même suspecter que, peut-être, ce sont eux qui sont cons comme des
    valises. Cette idée les dépasse.

    R.H.

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  • From gharnagel@21:1/5 to JanPB on Sun May 19 22:46:56 2024
    JanPB wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Is the theory of relativity a correct theory?
    If you ask a moron, he'll say no.
    If you ask another idiot, he'll say yes.
    Both are wrong.
    An intelligent man, capable of correctly mastering the whole theory
    from
    A to Z, will say that it is partly true and partly false, and he will
    put
    the two camps back to back.

    You are overthinking this. The truth is simply that relativity is just
    like any other accepted theory in physics. No "partly" this or "partly"
    that.

    The only reason this particular theory is constantly being dissected,
    almost always incorrectly, by amateurs is that it's a theory with a
    low barrier of mathematical entry. This makes it vulnerable to probing
    by armchair critics who have no idea about anything else in physics,
    and
    thus don't understand where relativity came from and why would anyone
    (like
    Einstein) ever come up with such a "weird" thing.

    Some "amateurs" just don't like the consequences, so they conclude it
    must
    be wrong. Some physicists (e.g., Bilaniuk, Deshpanda and Sudershan)
    didn't
    like the interpretations of other physicists and wrote "Meta"
    Relativity.
    Other physicists are still publishing papers extending relativity into
    the
    domain beyond c. There are "gotchas" in doing that, even for
    physicists.

    There appears to be a low bar to entry, but there is considerable
    subtlety.

    Theories which are far, FAR more bizarre, like quantum electrodynamics,
    are spared that fate because they are not accessible without a
    formidable
    mathematical foundation.

    --
    Jan

    And some physicists have been extending QFT into the beyond-c domain.
    Some
    conclude that QFT denies the existence of FTL particles and others
    conclude
    that QFT allows them. There are "gotchas" here, too.

    Gary

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 20 06:57:44 2024
    W dniu 20.05.2024 o 00:46, gharnagel pisze:
    JanPB wrote:

    Richard Hachel wrote:

    Is the theory of relativity a correct theory?
    If you ask a moron, he'll say no.
    If you ask another idiot, he'll say yes.
    Both are wrong.
    An intelligent man, capable of correctly mastering the whole theory
    from
    A to Z, will say that it is partly true and partly false, and he will
    put
    the two camps back to back.

    You are overthinking this. The truth is simply that relativity is just
    like any other accepted theory in physics. No "partly" this or "partly"
    that.

    The only reason this particular theory is constantly being dissected,
    almost always incorrectly, by amateurs is that it's a theory with a
    low barrier of mathematical entry. This makes it vulnerable to probing
    by armchair critics who have no idea about anything else in physics,
    and
    thus don't understand where relativity came from and why would anyone
    (like
    Einstein) ever come up with such a "weird" thing.

    Some "amateurs" just don't like the consequences, so they conclude it
    must
    be wrong.

    Come on, poor halfbrain - the "consequences" of
    the mumble of your idiot guru are even denying each
    other, not even mentioning how idiotic they would be
    if someone was treating his Holy Postulates seriously.

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