• #### Proper local time

From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 09:05:27 2024
Apart of the Shit's worshippers nobody cares
about that absurd. And even some of you, like
Lodder - don't.
Common sense was warning your idiot guru.

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• From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 08:51:17 2024
Le 16/04/2024 à 09:05, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
Apart of the Shit's worshippers nobody cares
about that absurd. And even some of you, like
Lodder - don't.
Common sense was warning your idiot guru.

The notion of "local proper time" looks a bit like a tautology.
Saying: "the local proper time of this phenomenon is 15 microseconds" is
like saying this swallow is a swallow.
There is a proper time, and an improper time. But there is no local proper
time and delocalized proper time.
What happens is just a different notion of time by change of observer in relativity.
This phenomenon, which lasts 15 microseconds, will have a different
duration if it is measured by a different observer. But proper time itself
is invariant, and is only local in any case.

The correct relativistic equation is :
t'=t.sqrt(1+cosµ.v/c)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)

And not t'=t.

And not t'=t/sqrt(1-v²/c²)

R.H.

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• From Python@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 11:12:51 2024
Le 16/04/2024 à 10:51, Richard Hachel a écrit :
Le 16/04/2024 à 09:05, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
Apart of the Shit's worshippers nobody cares
about that absurd. And even some of you, like
Lodder - don't.
Common sense was warning your idiot guru.

The notion of "local proper time" looks a bit like a tautology.
Saying: "the local proper time of this phenomenon is 15 microseconds" is
like saying this swallow is a swallow.
There is a proper time, and an improper time. But there is no local
proper time and delocalized proper time.
What happens is just a different notion of time by change of observer in relativity.
This phenomenon, which lasts 15 microseconds, will have a different
duration if it is measured by a different observer. But proper time
itself is invariant, and is only local in any case.

The correct relativistic  equation is : t'=t.sqrt(1+cosµ.v/c)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)

And not t'=t.

And not t'=t/sqrt(1-v²/c²)

All these equation are wrong.

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• From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 09:34:09 2024
Le 16/04/2024 à 11:12, Python a écrit :
Le 16/04/2024 à 10:51, Richard Hachel a écrit :
Le 16/04/2024 à 09:05, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
Apart of the Shit's worshippers nobody cares
about that absurd. And even some of you, like
Lodder - don't.
Common sense was warning your idiot guru.

The notion of "local proper time" looks a bit like a tautology.
Saying: "the local proper time of this phenomenon is 15 microseconds" is
like saying this swallow is a swallow.
There is a proper time, and an improper time. But there is no local
proper time and delocalized proper time.
What happens is just a different notion of time by change of observer in
relativity.
This phenomenon, which lasts 15 microseconds, will have a different
duration if it is measured by a different observer. But proper time
itself is invariant, and is only local in any case.

The correct relativistic  equation is :
t'=t.sqrt(1+cosµ.v/c)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)

And not t'=t.

And not t'=t/sqrt(1-v²/c²)

All these equation are wrong.

ah merde...

R.H.

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• From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 13:24:59 2024
W dniu 16.04.2024 o 10:51, Richard Hachel pisze:
Le 16/04/2024 à 09:05, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
Apart of the Shit's worshippers nobody cares
about that absurd. And even some of you, like
Lodder - don't.
Common sense was warning your idiot guru.

The notion of "local proper time" looks a bit like a tautology.

Only in the idiotic newspeak of your idiotic
ideology.
Time of the real world was never local and
won't become local just because some morons
have imagined it's proper.

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• From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Tue Apr 16 13:05:05 2024
Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 16.04.2024 o 10:51, Richard Hachel pisze:

The notion of "local proper time" looks a bit like a tautology.

I guess so, since proper time IS local time.

Only in the idiotic newspeak of your idiotic ideology.

More Of Wierd Wozzie's lunacy.

proper time (from the Latin, meaning "own time"): "The time as measured
by any observer from a clock at their location that is stationary with
respect to them."

https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100349685

Time of the real world was never local

So Weird Wozzie doesn't have his own time. That explains a LOT! :-)

and won't become local just because some morons have imagined it's proper.

The only moron here is Mumbling Moron Maciej. He is either a moron because
he doesn't understand reality, or he's a liar who believes his mumbling rants will be accepted by honest intelligent folk, which makes him a moron. So, either way, he's a moron.

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• From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 16:30:49 2024
W dniu 16.04.2024 o 15:05, gharnagel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 16.04.2024 o 10:51, Richard Hachel pisze:

The notion of "local proper time" looks a bit like a tautology.

I guess so, since proper time IS local time.

Only in the idiotic newspeak of your idiotic ideology.

More Of Wierd Wozzie's lunacy.

proper time (from the Latin, meaning "own time"): "The time as measured
by any observer from a clock at their location that is stationary with respect to them."

Sorry, poor Harrie. Anyone can check at GPS,
what real clocks at real locations measure
has little in common with your "proper"
delusion.
And you've admitted it yourself not so long ago.
Wanna quoting, poor fanatic idiot?

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• From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Tue Apr 16 15:31:30 2024
Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 16.04.2024 o 15:05, gharnagel pisze:

More Of Wierd Wozzie's lunacy.

proper time (from the Latin, meaning "own time"): "The time as measured
by any observer from a clock at their location that is stationary with respect to them."

Sorry, poor Harrie. Anyone can check at GPS,
what real clocks at real locations measure
has little in common with your "proper"
delusion.

Wozzie-boy is fantasizing again.

And you've admitted it yourself not so long ago.
Wanna quoting, poor fanatic idiot?

Moronic Maciej doesn't understand what ANYONE says,
particularly when he is saying it.

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• From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 15:18:17 2024
Le 16/04/2024 à 15:05, hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel) a écrit :
Maciej Wozniak wrote:

proper time (from the Latin, meaning "own time"): "The time as measured
by any observer from a clock at their location that is stationary with respect to them."

Yes, that’s how we should see things.

The proper time (noted real time "Tr" by Doctor Hachel) is the time, that
is to say the duration, measured by an observer placed in the same kinetic frame of reference (stationary observer).
It is sometimes also called local time.
For example, the half-life of this immobile particle in the laboratory reference frame is 25 nanoseconds.
Physicists understood very well that this value was relative, and that,
placed in a different reference frame (evolving at very high speed)
another observer would not measure time in the same way.
But I prefer to keep quiet about that for the moment, because the things I would have to explain, unfortunately as always in the history of humanity, would not be immediately understood.

R.H.

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• From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 16 18:12:12 2024
W dniu 16.04.2024 o 17:31, gharnagel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 16.04.2024 o 15:05, gharnagel pisze:

More Of Wierd Wozzie's lunacy.
proper time (from the Latin, meaning "own time"): "The time as
measured
by any observer from a clock at their location that is stationary with
respect to them."

Sorry, poor Harrie. Anyone can check at GPS,
what real clocks at real  locations measure
has little in common with your  "proper"
delusion.

Wozzie-boy is fantasizing again.

If you insist, Harrie...

W dniu 13.04.2024 o 19:56, gharnagel pisze:
The "improper" clocks in orbit keep proper time
only on earth.

Moronic Maciej doesn't understand what ANYONE says,
particularly when he is saying it.

Raving, lying and casting insults won't help,
poor trash, but what else can you do.

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• From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Wed Apr 17 10:55:02 2024
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:

Apart of the Shit's worshippers nobody cares
about that absurd. And even some of you, like
Lodder - don't.
Common sense was warning your idiot guru.

There is no point in adding 'local'.
Proper time interval is a world scalar.
In plain words: It is the same for every observer,

Jan

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• From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 17 14:07:26 2024
W dniu 17.04.2024 o 10:55, J. J. Lodder pisze:
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:

Apart of the Shit's worshippers nobody cares
about that absurd. And even some of you, like
Lodder - don't.
Common sense was warning your idiot guru.

There is no point in adding 'local'.
Proper time interval is a world scalar.
In plain words: It is the same for every observer,

:))))))))
It is what, Lod?

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• From gharnagel@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Wed Apr 17 13:22:47 2024
Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 16.04.2024 o 17:31, gharnagel pisze:

Maciej Wozniak wrote:

Sorry, poor Harrie. Anyone can check at GPS,
what real clocks at real  locations measure
has little in common with your  "proper"
delusion.

Wozzie-boy is fantasizing again.

If you insist, Harrie...

Moronic Maciej doesn't understand what ANYONE says,
particularly when he is saying it.

Raving, lying and casting insults won't help,
poor trash, but what else can you do.

Pot, kettle, black, Wozzie-boy :-))

No raving or lying here, Wozzie, you're just projecting again.

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• From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 17 17:03:58 2024
W dniu 17.04.2024 o 15:22, gharnagel pisze:
Maciej Wozniak wrote:

W dniu 16.04.2024 o 17:31, gharnagel pisze:

Maciej Wozniak wrote:

Sorry, poor Harrie. Anyone can check at GPS,
what real clocks at real  locations measure
has little in common with your  "proper"
delusion.
Wozzie-boy is fantasizing again.

If you insist, Harrie...

a lie, of course

we agree :-)

and another.

Raving, lying and casting insults won't help,
poor trash, but what else can you do.

Pot, kettle, black, Wozzie-boy :-))

No raving or lying here, Wozzie, you're just projecting again.

If you insist, Harrie...

W dniu 13.04.2024 o 19:56, gharnagel pisze:
The "improper" clocks in orbit keep proper time
only on earth.

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