• John Milton: "Long is the way, and hard, ..."

    From Aether Regained@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 23 15:04:00 2024
    "๐™‡๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™œ ๐™ž๐™จ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ฌ๐™–๐™ฎ, ๐˜ผ๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™๐™–๐™ง๐™™, ๐™ฉ๐™๐™–๐™ฉ ๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฉ ๐™ค๐™›
    ๐™ƒ๐™š๐™ก๐™ก ๐™ก๐™š๐™–๐™™๐™จ ๐™ช๐™ฅ ๐™ฉ๐™ค ๐™‡๐™ž๐™œ๐™๐™ฉ".
    โ€” John Milton, Paradise Lost.

    "๐™Ž๐™ข๐™ค๐™ค๐™ฉ๐™ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™™๐™š๐™จ๐™˜๐™š๐™ฃ๐™ฉ, ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™š๐™–๐™จ๐™ฎ ๐™ž๐™จ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ฌ๐™–๐™ฎ:
    ๐˜ฝ๐™ช๐™ฉ ๐™ฉ๐™ค ๐™ง๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ช๐™ง๐™ฃ, ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™ซ๐™ž๐™š๐™ฌ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™˜๐™๐™š๐™š๐™ง๐™›๐™ช๐™ก
    ๐™จ๐™ ๐™ž๐™š๐™จ, ๐™„๐™ฃ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™ž๐™จ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ฉ๐™–๐™จ๐™  ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™ข๐™ž๐™œ๐™๐™ฉ๐™ฎ ๐™ก๐™–๐™—๐™ค๐™ง
    ๐™ก๐™ž๐™š๐™จ."
    โ€” Virgil, Aeneid.

    That is how a pilgrimage to regain the รฆther feels like. So many false glimmers of light, that ultimately prove to be dead ends.

    But, one thing I have learned is that there is no point endlessly
    debating the kinematics of special relativity or the geometry of general relativity, but instead as Gauss urged, to search for the keystone of electrodynamics:

    Without a doubt, I would have made my investigations public long ago,
    had it not been the case that at the point where I broke off, what I
    considered to be the actual keystone was lacking, namely, the derivation
    of the additional forces (which enter into the reciprocal action of
    electrical particles at rest, if they are in relative motion) from the
    action which is not instantaneous, but on the contrary (in a way
    comparable to light) propagates itself in time. At the time, I did not
    succeed; however, I recall enough of the investigation at the time, not
    to remain wholly without hope, that success could perhaps be attained
    later, although, if I remember correctly, with the subjective
    conviction, that IT WOULD FIRST BE NECESSARY TO MAKE A CONSTRUCTIBLE REPRESENTATION OF THE WAY IN WHICH THE PROPAGATION OCCURS.

    โ€” Letter from C.F.Gauss to Wilhelm Weber, 19 March 1845

    Maxwell paraphrases Gauss as:

    We have seen that the mathematical expressions for electrodynamic
    action led, in the mind of Gauss, to the conviction that A THEORY OF THE PROPAGATION OF ELECTRIC ACTION in time would be found to be the very
    KEYSTONE OF ELECTRODYNAMICS.

    โ€”
    https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Treatise_on_Electricity_and_Magnetism/Part_IV/Chapter_XXIII

    Einstein said "challenge accepted" and thought he discovered the
    keystone of electrodynamics, which he published in his famous paper: "On
    the electrodynamics of moving bodies".

    The only problem seems to be that he found the false keystone of electrodynamics.

    Da Vinci Code: Silas discovers the false keystone: Job 38:11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJGahtL3TzU

    In an extremely surprising coincidence, this is what Job 38:11 says:

    "๐•ณ๐–Ž๐–™๐–๐–Š๐–—๐–™๐–” ๐–˜๐–๐–†๐–‘๐–™ ๐–™๐–๐–”๐–š ๐–ˆ๐–”๐–’๐–Š, ๐–‡๐–š๐–™ ๐–“๐–”
    ๐–‹๐–š๐–—๐–™๐–๐–Š๐–—: ๐–†๐–“๐–‰ ๐–๐–Š๐–—๐–Š ๐–˜๐–๐–†๐–‘๐–‘ ๐–™๐–๐–ž ๐–•๐–—๐–”๐–š๐–‰ ๐–œ๐–†๐–›๐–Š๐–˜
    ๐–‡๐–Š ๐–˜๐–™๐–†๐–ž๐–Š๐–‰?"

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  • From Tom Roberts@21:1/5 to Aether Regained on Tue Jan 23 14:07:28 2024
    On 1/23/24 9:04 AM, Aether Regained wrote:
    [...] a pilgrimage to regain the รฆther [...]

    For that to get any consideration whatsoever, by people who matter (physicists), you must explain how aether induces quantum behavior in
    light and atoms. Without that such a "pilgrimage" is hopeless.

    Tom Roberts

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  • From Aether Regained@21:1/5 to Aether Regained on Wed Jan 24 18:22:00 2024
    Tom Roberts:> On 1/23/24 9:04 AM, Aether Regained wrote:
    [...] a pilgrimage to regain the รฆther [...]

    For that to get any consideration whatsoever, by people who matter (physicists), you must explain how aether induces quantum behavior in
    light and atoms. Without that such a "pilgrimage" is hopeless.

    Tom Roberts


    That is a formidable challenge. IIRC, both Schrรถdinger and Dirac spent considerable efforts on this endeavor, which they characterized as
    spiritual and philosophical respectively. In the end, both pilgrims made
    some progress, but were disappointed on not reaching the desired
    destination.

    However, they made it abundantly clear that the question of "๐ผ๐‘  ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘’ ๐‘Ž๐‘› รฆ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’๐‘Ÿ?" was still open. Maybe, by standing on the
    shoulders of these giants, some more progress can be made.

    If time permits, I'll dig up and post some of their very interesting observations on this issue.

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  • From Aether Regained@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 25 19:07:00 2024
    Ross Finlayson:> On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 10:22:26โ€ฏAM UTC-8 wrote:
    Turok though, Turok seemed pretty honest at least about problems
    physics has, and without going all rabbit hole, which is from Alice in Wonderland where going down the rabbit hole means leaving reality and
    traipsing into absurdity, or as from Through the Looking Glass and so on.

    So, t'Hooft is still out in front. [But t.Hooft also rabbit holes
    down his ladder.]


    So, you are saying except for Turok and maybe t'Hooft, the rest have
    gone cuckoo.

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