The evidence for light deflection during a solar eclipse consists of the deflection outward of the apparent positions of stars near the Sun.
However, during an eclipse, the area that is eclipsed experiences reduced
air pressure. This would result in the outward deflection of the light of
the stars because it would be refracted towards the denser air exactly as
it does at sunset, making the Sun remain visible after astronomical
sunset.
Therefore, this evidence of deflection is fully accounted for by air pressure, making relativity entirely unnecessary.
Source: "The weather's response to a solar eclipse"
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 11:38:58 AM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:Sun remain visible after astronomical sunset.
The evidence for light deflection during a solar eclipse consists of the deflection outward of the apparent positions of stars near the Sun.
However, during an eclipse, the area that is eclipsed experiences reduced air pressure. This would result in the outward deflection of the light of the stars because it would be refracted towards the denser air exactly as it does at sunset, making the
Therefore, this evidence of deflection is fully accounted for by air pressure, making relativity entirely unnecessary.
Source: "The weather's response to a solar eclipse"
This constitutes yet another example of elementary science being sufficient to refute relativity.
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 2:06:04 PM UTC-8, Volney wrote:the Sun remain visible after astronomical sunset.
On 12/23/2023 3:14 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 11:38:58 AM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
The evidence for light deflection during a solar eclipse consists of the deflection outward of the apparent positions of stars near the Sun.
However, during an eclipse, the area that is eclipsed experiences reduced air pressure. This would result in the outward deflection of the light of the stars because it would be refracted towards the denser air exactly as it does at sunset, making
They routinely measure the gravitational deflection of stars by
Therefore, this evidence of deflection is fully accounted for by air pressure, making relativity entirely unnecessary.
Source: "The weather's response to a solar eclipse"
This constitutes yet another example of elementary science being sufficient to refute relativity.
satellites in space. No air/weather. Solar eclipses on earth are no
longer necessary.
That is lucky because eclipses can no longer provide any evidence for it!
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 6:02:13 PM UTC-8, palsing wrote:the Sun remain visible after astronomical sunset..
Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 2:43:39 PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote: >>>> On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 11:38:58 AM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
The evidence for light deflection during a solar eclipse consists of the deflection outward of the apparent positions of stars near the Sun.
However, during an eclipse, the area that is eclipsed experiences reduced air pressure. This would result in the outward deflection of the light of the stars because it would be refracted towards the denser air exactly as it does at sunset, making
the Sun's limb is due to gravity... just like the position of entire galaxies can be due to an intervening galaxy, as in the case of Einstein's Cross, for example...Sure, the Sun's position is deflected at sunrise and sunset due to refraction in our atmosphere. However, the atmosphere of the Sun at its limb is thinner than the best vacuum that can be made on Earth. The deflection of a star's position when near
solely to gravitation. Get that textbook because your own personal fantasies are not even close to being reality. You *still* do not know what you do not know.Understood. Apparently, you do not understand that the Earth's atmosphere only refracts light to a large degree when the object is near the horizon. When there is a solar eclipse high in the sky the deflection of stars near the Sun's limb is duePaul, I was talking about the Earth's atmosphere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_Cross
I see you *still* have not read even a single textbook. Are you proud of your ignorance of the subject matter?
Therefore, this evidence of deflection is fully accounted for by air pressure, making relativity entirely unnecessary.
At sunset the Sun is still visible when under the horizon making refraction then at least .5 degrees so 1.75" is 1/2057th of that!
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 12:27:01?PM UTC-8, J. J. Lodder wrote:
Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The evidence for light deflection during a solar eclipse consists of the deflection outward of the apparent positions of stars near the Sun.
However, during an eclipse, the area that is eclipsed experiences reduced air pressure. This would result in the outward deflection of the light of the stars because it would be refracted towards the denser air exactly as it does at sunset, making the Sun remain visible after astronomical sunset.
Therefore, this evidence of deflection is fully accounted for by air pressure, making relativity entirely unnecessary.
Source: "The weather's response to a solar eclipse"OK. Next excercise: account for gravitational deflection
of the radio positions of quasars, which is routinely measured
on a daily basis, without having eclipses.
And while you are busy, prove that the Earth is flat,
JanIs that deflection twice Newtonian?
(GAIA for the next posting)
How can everything in the universe be
deflected Newtonian except light? Pound & Rebka found Newtonian for light.
Which is it for Quasars?
On 12/23/2023 7:19 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:n wrote:
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 2:06:04?PM UTC-8, Volney wrote:
On 12/23/2023 3:14 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 11:38:58?AM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crosse
gravitational deflection of stars by satellites in space. NoThe evidence for light deflection during a solar eclipse consists of >>>>the deflection outward of the apparent positions of stars near the >>>>Sun.
However, during an eclipse, the area that is eclipsed experiences >>>>reduced air pressure. This would result in the outward deflection of >>>>the light of the stars because it would be refracted towards the >>>>denser air exactly as it does at sunset, making the Sun remain visible >>>>after astronomical sunset.
Therefore, this evidence of deflection is fully accounted for by air >>>>pressure, making relativity entirely unnecessary.
Source: "The weather's response to a solar eclipse"
This constitutes yet another example of elementary science being >>sufficient to refute relativity. They routinely measure the
air/weather. Solar eclipses on earth are no longer necessary.
That is lucky because eclipses can no longer provide any evidence for it!
So you admit that GR provides the correct predictions in space?
And why aren't you providing evidence of how much deflection this
weather effect makes or explain why the weather effect just happens to
match the predictions of GR by chance?
There is an eclipse coming up. I'm sure a few high school and freshmen college physics professors will take a few photographs and give them to
their classes to validate/refute GR's predictions.
Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:
There is an eclipse coming up. I'm sure a few high school and freshmen
college physics professors will take a few photographs and give them to
their classes to validate/refute GR's predictions.
It has ben validated many times, since 1919.
Even remeasurement of the original plates confirms Eddington's result,
On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 4:18:35 AM UTC-8, J. J. Lodder wrote:
Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c...@hotmail.com> wrote:When Galileo showed everything is affected the same by gravity no matter its mass and Eotvos regardless of its material, how can light be affected differently, twice Newtonian? It's not.
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 2:43:39?PM UTC-8, Paul Alsing wrote:Yes, and you were talking nonsense.
On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 11:38:58?AM UTC-8, Laurence Clark Crossen:Paul, I was talking about the Earth's atmosphere.
The evidence for light deflection during a solar eclipse consists of >>>>> the deflection outward of the apparent positions of stars near theSure, the Sun's position is deflected at sunrise and sunset due to
Sun.
However, during an eclipse, the area that is eclipsed experiences
reduced air pressure. This would result in the outward deflection of >>>>> the light of the stars because it would be refracted towards the
denser air exactly as it does at sunset, making the Sun remain visible >>>>> after astronomical sunset.
refraction in our atmosphere. However, the atmosphere of the Sun at its >>>> limb is thinner than the best vacuum that can be made on Earth. The
deflection of a star's position when near the Sun's limb is due to
gravity... just like the position of entire galaxies can be due to an
intervening galaxy, as in the case of Einstein's Cross, for example... >>>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_Cross
I see you *still* have not read even a single textbook. Are you proud of >>>> your ignorance of the subjct matter?
Therefore, this evidence of deflection is fully accounted for by air >>>>> pressure, making relativity entirely unnecessary.
Jan
The Eddington bent starlight experiment could have been repeated in the ISS with undreamed of precision by all previous earthbound experimenters, by use of a jar lid held at arm's length and a smartphone.
JJL will protest that infra red data for zillions of stars up to 90 degrees from the sun have already proved the Einstein hypothesis.
Richard Hertz dug into, and debunked that phony data and claim.
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