Beda Pietanza wrote:

I did not change my first bewilderment when I found out that the alleged greatest scientific mind: A. Einstein, based his SR theory on the idea of mingling Time with Space.
To me, intuitively, physical Time does not exit

physical Space does not exiSt.




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On 12/12/2023 12:35 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:

On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 7:39:30 AM UTC-8, Beda Pietanza wrote:

I did not change my first bewilderment when I found out that the alleged greatest scientific mind: A. Einstein, based his SR theory on the idea of mingling Time with Space.
To me, intuitively, physical Time does not exit
The misconception about the real nature of Time arise from the confusion of our subjective perception of Time with the duration of physical phenomena, either linear or cyclical.
There are only phenomena that have their duration, as as an associated physical property, and in case of a cyclical phenomenon, if stable enough, it can be used as a reference to compare, properly, all the other phenomena duration.
Time as a physical entity doesn't exist, it is only an emergent abstract concept emerged in our human mind to cope with practical needs.
The duration of many different physical phenomena in a given environmental condition, are affected by the environment in many ways: temperature, pressure, vacuum, gravity, speed, acceleration etc.
Any change whatsoever of the environmental condition will affect the duration of each phenomenon in a different way and in different entity.
The reciprocal ratio between various phenomenon durationIn a given environmental condition, if any of the environmental condition changes, the original ratio between the various different phenomena cannot possibly remain constant.
The alleged SR invariance between different inertial moving frame is impossible, the experimental data are just wishful thinking or manipulation, being the changes of ratio duration, surely of not great entities, are
likely below our ability of detect them, being the very low inertial terrestrial speed the experimental labs can reach.
There is a growing gap between our great technical abilities that generate such complexities in our lives, versus our limited ability to manage them.
SR misconception about the nature of Time has great negative consequences on the collective ability to comprehend our world and be able to cope with it.
Disagreements are welcome
cheers, beda

It sounds like Barbour's "timeless", but,
time symmetry's never been falsified,
and, so, it's not a standing physical theory.

That time dilation gets corrected as with length contraction
making space contraction, it's a different thing.

Some usual thought experiments aren't physical,
it's true, but pretty much all the differential-systems in GR
and propagation in QM are still governed by a one "the time".

...dull...

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On 12/12/2023 9:39 AM, Beda Pietanza wrote:

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There is a growing gap between our great technical abilities that generate such complexities in our lives, versus our limited ability to manage them.
SR misconception about the nature of Time has great negative consequences on the collective ability to comprehend our world and be able to cope with it.
Disagreements are welcome
cheers, beda

Forget Einstein and any ideas about relativity, they are well beyond
your depth. Sneakin in a "big name" doesn't help your pseudo quest.

Everyone/everything experiences time and significant definitions do not
exist, still you experience it as such it, whatever time is, exists at
least for the individuals/things that experience it. (find exceptions if
you can.

Get used to the idea that your approach is flawed and nobody with any
sense will engage you on your terms. Using error as a jumping off point
can never lead to anywhere good.

Find some interest that will lead to achievement, otherwise join the
common man who simply experiences life without raising a worthy and
answerable question. This one isn't available to you.

You "gotta know when to,fold em..." Here's your chance.

To everyone else, any bets on his choice between crank vs sensible man?

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On 2023-12-12 15:39:27 +0000, Beda Pietanza said:

...
To me, intuitively, physical Time does not exit
...
The alleged SR invariance between different inertial moving frame is impossible,
...

Disagreements are welcome

The universe wehre we live is a disagreement with your opinion.

Mikko

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On 13-Dec-23 2:39 am, Beda Pietanza wrote:

I did not change my first bewilderment when I found out that the
alleged greatest scientific mind: A. Einstein, based his SR theory on
the idea of mingling Time with Space.

Well, he didn't. If there's any mingling going on, it's an
interpretation of the resulting theory, not the basis for it.

Sylvia.

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On 12/12/2023 9:39 AM, Beda Pietanza wrote:

I did not change my first bewilderment when I found out that the alleged greatest scientific mind: A. Einstein, based his SR theory on the idea of mingling Time with Space.
To me, intuitively, physical Time does not exit
The misconception about the real nature of Time arise from the confusion of our subjective perception of Time with the duration of physical phenomena, either linear or cyclical.
There are only phenomena that have their duration, as as an associated physical property, and in case of a cyclical phenomenon, if stable enough, it can be used as a reference to compare, properly, all the other phenomena duration.
Time as a physical entity doesn't exist, it is only an emergent abstract concept emerged in our human mind to cope with practical needs.
The duration of many different physical phenomena in a given environmental condition, are affected by the environment in many ways: temperature, pressure, vacuum, gravity, speed, acceleration etc.
Any change whatsoever of the environmental condition will affect the duration of each phenomenon in a different way and in different entity.
The reciprocal ratio between various phenomenon durationIn a given environmental condition, if any of the environmental condition changes, the original ratio between the various different phenomena cannot possibly remain constant.
The alleged SR invariance between different inertial moving frame is impossible, the experimental data are just wishful thinking or manipulation, being the changes of ratio duration, surely of not great entities, are
likely below our ability of detect them, being the very low inertial terrestrial speed the experimental labs can reach.
There is a growing gap between our great technical abilities that generate such complexities in our lives, versus our limited ability to manage them.
SR misconception about the nature of Time has great negative consequences on the collective ability to comprehend our world and be able to cope with it.
Disagreements are welcome
cheers, beda

The more you write the greater the clarity that you haven't any idea
what it is you're talking about. Time is not an independent entity.
Consider what it is that time measures.

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