The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! Where did it go????Does that North star ever move???
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Sunday, November 19, 2023 at 1:40:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
it is my undrstanding...
the sun being a star..
that there are no stars that move.
Hey! Where is the Big Dipper? I don't see it...it must have moved! WhereDoes that North star ever move???
did it go????
(by move, i mean move it's position)
Since it is not *exactly* above the pole, yes, it does.You maean North of the North pole is...up?
maybe these other stars are so far away that it is hard for yous to be
sure
(or not even there anymore)
but our sun doesn't move.
It might appear to move...
everything else is moving around it
(including the entire space..
but our sun doesn't move.
And what about our Moon? It don't move either!
i wanna see the dark side of the moon...but
for some reason it just doesn't wanna move.
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 11:20:22 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
maybe these other stars are so far away that it is hard for yous to be sure
(or not even there anymore)
but our sun doesn't move.
It might appear to move...Sure it does...
everything else is moving around it
(including the entire space..
but our sun doesn't move.
"Yes, the Sun - in fact, our whole solar system - orbits around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.
On Wednesday, 22 November 2023 at 20:52:33 UTC+1, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 11:20:22 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
maybe these other stars are so far away that it is hard for yous to be sure
(or not even there anymore)
but our sun doesn't move.
It might appear to move...Sure it does...
everything else is moving around it
(including the entire space..
but our sun doesn't move.
"Yes, the Sun - in fact, our whole solar system - orbits around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.
So even you aren't really stupid enough to believe in relative motion, Al. Well, well.
Paul Alsing wrote:orbit around the Milky Way!"
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 11:20:22 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
maybe these other stars are so far away that it is hard for yous to be sure
(or not even there anymore)
but our sun doesn't move.
It might appear to move...
everything else is moving around it
(including the entire space..
but our sun doesn't move.
Sure it does...
"Yes, the Sun - in fact, our whole solar system - orbits around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. We are moving at an average velocity of 828,000 km/hr. But even at that high rate, it still takes us about 230 million years to make one complete
looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question18.html#:~:text=Yes%2C%20the%20Sun%20%2D%20in%20fact,Way%20is%20a%20spiral%20galaxy.
And what about our Moon? It don't move either!
Sure it does...
https://byjus.com/question-answer/how-fast-does-moon-need-to-travel-to-stay-in-it-s-orbit-explain/
https://byjus.com/question-answer/how-fast-does-moon-need-to-travel-to-stay-in-it-s-orbit-explain/
"The Moon orbits Earth at a speed of 2,288 miles per hour (3,683 kilometers per hour or 1.022 km/s). Its orbital period is 27 days. During this time it travels a distance of 1,423,000 miles."
i wanna see the dark side of the moon...but
for some reason it just doesn't wanna move.
You ignorance of the motions of astronomical bodies is huge.
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time you are
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
"the dark side" of our moon is eternally out of view, never facing the earth. it's not moving. it is not going to turn around. it's fixed.
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time you arelooking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 4:22:20 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:equals its revolution period because it is tidally couploed to the Earth.
"the dark side" of our moon is eternally out of view, never facing the
earth. it's not moving. it is not going to turn around. it's fixed.
No, dimwit, it is the *far* side of the moon that we cannot, but it, too is illuminated by the sun for a part of every month. The *far* side is not always dark! This, OF COURSE, is because the moon is rotating on its axis, and its rotation period
AGAIN, read a dang textbook!
Volney wrote:are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time you
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon', meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles
around the sun....
The Starmaker wrote:you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Paul Alsing wrote:time you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles
around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and
the moon???
Paul Alsing wrote:the time you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:00 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles
around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
-
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and the moon???
No, it is really that you are massively ignorant of the subject matter.According to Relativity, the earth is at the center and the sun revolves around the earth relative to each other from a frame of reference using
the coordinate systems.
There is nothing that proves the sun is at the center. This is all mathematically correct according to Einstein theory relativity. Is he
wrong?
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Paul Alsing wrote:the time you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
On Friday, November 24, 2023 at 11:19:00 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:31:36 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles
around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
-
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Did you actually read the link I provided? What did it tell you? I never claimed that the moon is a planet. Read the dang article!
isn't it really the Sun that is actually revolving around the earth and the moon???
No, it is really that you are massively ignorant of the subject matter.
According to Relativity, the earth is at the center and the sun revolves around the earth relative to each other from a frame of reference using
the coordinate systems.
There is nothing that proves the sun is at the center. This is all mathematically correct according to Einstein theory relativity. Is he
wrong?
The Starmaker wrote:you are looking at part of the illuminated side and part of the dark side. Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Paul Alsing wrote:
On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 10:31:11 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
Volney wrote:
On 11/22/2023 2:52 PM, Paul Alsing wrote:
Half of the moon is always dark, just like half of the Earth is always dark, just like every body in the solar system is always half in the dark. When you look at a full moon you are looking at the entire sunlit half, and the rest of the time
On the other hand you can never see the *far* side of the moon from the surface of the Earth, which, of course is also regularly illuminated by the Sun, just like the near side.
An obsolete definition of 'dark' is 'unknown', and almost the only time
you'll hear the word 'dark' used this way is 'dark side of the moon',
meaning the (once unknown) far side of the moon.
he is toooo busy trying to figure out whether or not the moon revoles around the sun....
I am confident that were the Earth to suddenly disappear the moon would continue to happily circle the Sun. In fact, even in the current situation, the moon's orbit is *always* concave towards the Sun!
So yes, the moon revolves around the Sun with proportionally small perturbations in and out due to the gravitational field of the earth.
https://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/moon2.html#:~:text=The%20curvature%20of%20the%20orbit,elliptical%20orbit%20about%20the%20sun.
"... the moon orbits the sun and is always falling towards it."
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon.
-
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 12:48:43 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
earth and other things revolve
around the sun...
that can only mean one thing..
the sun is not moving.
No. The Sun takes the solar system around
the Milky Way... There is no absolute rest...
The Sun takes the solar system around???? isn't it the other way
around??
On 11/24/2023 1:31 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a
planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on
moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
The force of the sun on the moon is about twice that of the earth on the moon.
"Yes, the Sun - in fact, our whole solar system - orbits around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy.
So even you aren't really stupid enough to believe in relative motion, Al. Well, well.Relative motion is obviously a real thing, Woz
Volney wrote:
On 11/24/2023 1:31 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
if the moon revolves around the sun then by definition...the moon is a >> planet.
The force of the gravitational force of earth is more than the sun on moon. So the moon revolves around the earth not the sun.
The force of the sun on the moon is about twice that of the earth on the moon. That's why the moon's path around the sun is a wiggly ellipse and always curves toward the sun, even during the new moon when the earth
and sun are pulling it in opposite directions.
are you talking about a weak force or a strong force?
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