At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
Where was that second time before? with the first time?N/A
How are their two times together first?N/A
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
--
Jan
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
at the singularity.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
--
Jan
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
at the singularity.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside. >> No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
You don't know the theory jan.
Prove it does not say time ends there.
On 10/20/2023 6:28 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
at the singularity.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
You don't know the theory jan.
Prove it does not say time ends there.Roy, it is your claim, so it is up to you to point out where one time
ends and another begins in relativity.
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:You don't know the theory jan.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
at the singularity.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
Prove it does not say time ends there.
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 9:55:50 AM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
On 10/20/2023 6:28 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>> It doesn't.
at the singularity.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
You don't know the theory jan.
I can claim what is real in GR.Prove it does not say time ends there.Roy, it is your claim, so it is up to you to point out where one time
ends and another begins in relativity.
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:You don't know the theory jan.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
at the singularity.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
Prove it does not say time ends there.
cross the horizon.
--
Jan
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:There are two times being used. One ends at the horizon and proper beyond that...
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:You don't know the theory jan.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
at the singularity.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
Prove it does not say time ends there.
cross the horizon.
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:43:58 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:No. Gr says no such thing. What it says is that light signals as perceived by an
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:There are two times being used. One ends at the horizon and proper beyond that...
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:You don't know the theory jan.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary at the singularity.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
Prove it does not say time ends there.
cross the horizon.
external observer are delayed which is a purely optical phenomenon, like
a mirage.
--
Jan
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.If Time does not end at all then
Time has no beginning at all.
The first three secinds are simply Time created in...seconds.
Before the 'second' we had Time without seconds. Eternal Time.
No beginning, no end.
I mean, yous people still don't understand The Code!
This is The Code: 'In the begininng, God created the heavens and the earth.'
Now, you take The Code..."In the begininng..."
Define "In"
Define "the"
Define "beginning"
And The Code reads: 'In space, the first second was created.'
or, 'In Time, the first second was created.'
And the movie began...frame by frame.
Time is film without the frames. Add a frame...you have the first second of the movie.
I hope you brought your own popcorn...
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...[...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...[...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:51:44 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:43:58 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:No. Gr says no such thing. What it says is that light signals as perceived by an
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:There are two times being used. One ends at the horizon and proper beyond that...
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:You don't know the theory jan.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
at the singularity.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
Prove it does not say time ends there.
cross the horizon.
external observer are delayed which is a purely optical phenomenon, like
a mirage.
--You were taught wrong jan.
Jan
Fall does reach the speed of light.
Time does end at a BH.
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 10:34:07 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:51:44 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:43:58 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:No. Gr says no such thing. What it says is that light signals as perceived by an
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:28:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:There are two times being used. One ends at the horizon and proper beyond that...
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 1:37:37 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It's a simple fact of the relevant geometry: there exist timelike curves that
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:59:23 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:You don't know the theory jan.
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 9:14:45 PM UTC-7, JanPB wrote:It doesn't claim that. OTOH in GR space and time do have a boundary
On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 3:57:57 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:Why does BH event horizon theory claim time ends?
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?It doesn't.
at the singularity.
It says one time ends there and another or proper time takes over inside.No, there is no such thing in the theory. Someone has been pulling your leg.
Prove it does not say time ends there.
cross the horizon.
external observer are delayed which is a purely optical phenomenon, like a mirage.
No. This is false. Someone has been telling you stories.--You were taught wrong jan.
Jan
Fall does reach the speed of light.
Time does end at a BH.
--
Jan
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:[...]
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the >>>>>>> object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
No. Gr says no such thing. What it says is that light signals as perceived by an
external observer are delayed which is a purely optical phenomenon, like
a mirage.
--
Jan
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 8:51:44 PM UTC-6, JanPB wrote:
No. Gr says no such thing. What it says is that light signals as perceived by an
external observer are delayed which is a purely optical phenomenon, like
a mirage.
--
Jan
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall >>>>>>>>> into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still >>>>>>>>> moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been >>>>>> there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always >>>>>> been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evoled.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the >>> Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he >> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evoled.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>>
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the >>> Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he >> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evoled.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
On Sunday, October 29, 2023 at 8:38:22 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >>>>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>>>>
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the >>>>> Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he >>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evoled. >>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
God Creates His Gravity... since the absolute beginning. And will never stop...
He is Creating Time forever...
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:[...]
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of >>>>>> the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>>>>
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the >>>>> Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he >>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evoled. >>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>>>>
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the >>>>> Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he >>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved. >>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
forever and a day.
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >>>>>>>>
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>>>>>>
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the >>>>>>> Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he >>>>>> always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved. >>>>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak? >>>
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
forever and a day.
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >>>>>>>>
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>>>>>>
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak? >>>
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬Ã‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÆ’¢ââ€ÅÃâ€
ƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬Ã‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÆ’¢ââ€ÅÃ
forever and a day.That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense?
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >>>>>>>>>>
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem? >>>>>>>>>>
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak? >>>>>
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:‚¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11âââ€ÅÃ
¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬Ã‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÆ’¢ââ€Ãâ€Â
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >>>>>>>>>>
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>>>>
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????Where did the universe come from?
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:‚¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11âââ€ÅÃ
¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃƒÆ’‚¬Ã‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÆ’¢ââ€Ãâ€Â
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >>>>>>>>>>
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>>>>
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:’…¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢â€ÃÆ
šÂ¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢â€
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state? >>>>>>>>>>
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>>>>
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the
universe it is surrounded by IN????
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE
around it.
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:ƒÆ’…¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢â€Ã
¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚ÂÂ
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe.
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>>>>
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the
universe it is surrounded by IN????
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE
around it.
What is your proof of that?
The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚ÂÂÂ
¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚Â
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution ofThat's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>[...]Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>>>>>>
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>>>>
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the universe it is surrounded by IN????
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE around it.
What is your proof of that?
The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".
**** Definition of the word...In:
**** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be
enclosed
**** or surrounded by something else.
**** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
Are you not aware of what you speak????
The Starmaker wrote:‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚ÂÃ
€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚Ãâ
So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution ofThat's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>[...]Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>>>>>>
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>>>>
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the universe it is surrounded by IN????
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE around it.
What is your proof of that?
The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".
**** Definition of the word...In:
**** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
**** or surrounded by something else.
**** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
Are you not aware of what you speak????
So, when you write: The universe is *in* the hypersphere's boundary...
you are sayin: The universe hypersphere's boundary is enclosed or
surrounded by something else.
Don't use the word...."In".
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:50:43 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚Ãâ€
ƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚Ã
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution ofIn another way... He has always been a timeless God...[...]Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>>>>>>
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... >>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the universe it is surrounded by IN????
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE around it.
What is your proof of that?
The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".
**** Definition of the word...In:
**** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
**** or surrounded by something else.
**** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
Are you not aware of what you speak????
So, when you write: The universe is *in* the hypersphere's boundary...
you are sayin: The universe hypersphere's boundary is enclosed or surrounded by something else.
Not at all. The hypersphere is the final dimension and is
not in any higher... no more physical orientation exists beyond it.
There is only one universe measured...
Mitchell Raemsch
Don't use the word...."In".
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:‚¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:50:43 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚Ã
¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢âââ€ÅÂ
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of[...]Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>>>>>>
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... >>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the universe it is surrounded by IN????
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE
around it.
What is your proof of that?
The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".
**** Definition of the word...In:
**** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
**** or surrounded by something else.
**** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
Are you not aware of what you speak????
So, when you write: The universe is *in* the hypersphere's boundary...
you are sayin: The universe hypersphere's boundary is enclosed or surrounded by something else.
Not at all. The hypersphere is the final dimension and is
not in any higher... no more physical orientation exists beyond it.
There is only one universe measured...
Mitchell Raemsch
Maybe you don't understand the word...."boundary".Don't use the word...."In".
You need to see beyond the boundary, beyond the borderline...beyond the horizon.
There you will find...something else.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 11:06:07 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:¬Å¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:50:43 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚
…¡Ã‚¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢âââ€Ã
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution of[...]Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^)
In another way... He has always been a timeless God...
That's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always been
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore.
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>>>>>>
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang.
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result
of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... >>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the universe it is surrounded by IN????
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE
around it.
What is your proof of that?
The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".
**** Definition of the word...In:
**** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
**** or surrounded by something else.
**** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in
YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
Are you not aware of what you speak????
So, when you write: The universe is *in* the hypersphere's boundary...
you are sayin: The universe hypersphere's boundary is enclosed or surrounded by something else.
Not at all. The hypersphere is the final dimension and is
not in any higher... no more physical orientation exists beyond it.
There is only one universe measured...
Mitchell Raemsch
Maybe you don't understand the word...."boundary".Don't use the word...."In".
You need to see beyond the boundary, beyond the borderline...beyond the horizon.
There is no beyond the hypersphere universe.
Higher round is first with no physical before it.
There you will find...something else.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:¡ÃƒÆ’‚¢ÃƒÃ�€ ’¢â€Ãâ€
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:50:43 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>> The Starmaker wrote:
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’ÂÃâ€ÅÂ
šÃ‚¢ÃƒÃ�€ ’¢â€Ãâââ€On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’ÂÃâ€
So, when you write: The universe is *in* the hypersphere's boundary...Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or theGod is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution ofThat's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in >>>>>>>>
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?
universe it is surrounded by IN????
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE >>>>>> around it.
What is your proof of that?
The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".
**** Definition of the word...In:
**** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be
enclosed
**** or surrounded by something else.
**** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in >>>>
YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
Are you not aware of what you speak????
you are sayin: The universe hypersphere's boundary is enclosed or
surrounded by something else.
Not at all. The hypersphere is the final dimension and is
not in any higher... no more physical orientation exists beyond it.
There is only one universe measured...
Mitchell Raemsch
Don't use the word...."In".
Maybe you don't understand the word...."boundary".
You need to see beyond the boundary, beyond the borderline...beyond the horizon.
There you will find...something else.
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:50:43 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:ƒÆ’…¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
The Starmaker wrote:
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢â€Ã
¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚ÂÂ
So, when you write: The universe is *in* the hypersphere's boundary...Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or theGod is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution ofThat's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... >>>>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed >>>>>>> or surrounded by something else.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in >>>>>>>
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?
universe it is surrounded by IN????
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE
around it.
What is your proof of that?
The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe.
The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".
**** Definition of the word...In:
**** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be
enclosed
**** or surrounded by something else.
**** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in >>>
YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
Are you not aware of what you speak????
you are sayin: The universe hypersphere's boundary is enclosed or
surrounded by something else.
Not at all. The hypersphere is the final dimension and is
not in any higher... no more physical orientation exists beyond it.
There is only one universe measured...
Mitchell Raemsch
Don't use the word...."In".
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 11:06:07 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:¬ÃƒÆ’…¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 1:50:43 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> The Starmaker wrote:
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 4:07 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 11/1/2023 1:02 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 11:34 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/29/2023 4:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/28/2023 9:38 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
On 10/26/2023 2:37 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 1:19:11ÃÃ�€ ’Æ’¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚ÂÂÂ
¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬ÃÃ�€ ’‚¯AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:On 10/26/2023 11:20 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:08:48ÃÃ�€ ’ƒÂ¢ÃÃ�€ ’¢ââ‚Â
Maybe you don't understand the word...."boundary".So, when you write: The universe is *in* the hypersphere's boundary... >>>>The PROOF is in the definition of the word..."In".Are you refering to the universe you're "In"? enclosed IN. or the >>>>>>> universe it is surrounded by IN????God is a result of the evolution of the universe. That means God Evolved.So, are you saying the universe itself is the real, "God"? Evolution ofThat's a bit of a head scratcher for me. Something that has always beenIn another way... He has always been a timeless God... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[...]Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
If Time does not end at all then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On 10/19/2023 3:57 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At an event horizon how does one time end and another take over?
Where was that second time before? with the first time?
How are their two times together first? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes the first go away without infinite gravity?
Think of an observer watching an object with moving parts on it fall
into a black hole. The observer would notice that the movements of the
object are getting slower and slower, even though the object is still
moving at its normal speed. Make an sense? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Time does not end at all.
Time has no beginning at all.
No. There can be an absolute beginning without an end...
Did God exist before this "absolute beginning"? ;^) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
there. It was never created, and will never pass away. For it has always
been there, and will always be there... Forevermore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
God is a result of the evolution of the universe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
the universe implies that it was in a primordial sort of state?
Well, afaict, it boils down to basically a chicken and egg problem?
Fair enough?
You confusing before the big bang with after the big bang. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
God came Before the big bang...He created it. God is a result >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the evolution of the universe..the universe that existed Before the
Big Bang.
He created it implies that he existed before creation. Therefore, was he
always there, or not? Chicken and egg, basically... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
God wasn't always there...
and neither were you.
How long did the universe exist before God came into play, so to speak?
forever and a day.
:^D
Was God ever truly alone? Humm...
Before God came into play...so to speak, ..
the universe had plenty of time to figure out
how to create a universe with everything IN IT.
The universe needed a God to create it.
[...]
So this is your answer to the chicken and egg problem?
God was before the universe, right?
First a universe
then
God came in/evolved afterwards
then
God created the heavens and the earth....In the Beginning.
"In"
The operative word is "in"!
Definition of the word...In:
expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be enclosed
or surrounded by something else.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in >>>>>>>>>
The Code:
'In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.'
in:
to be enclosed or surrounded by something else.
What is dis chicken business????
Where did the universe come from?
To be clear, you're In a universe that is an enclosure of the SPACE >>>>>>> around it.
What is your proof of that?
The universe is in the hypersphere's boundary not another universe. >>>>>
**** Definition of the word...In:
**** expressing the situation of something that is or appears to be
enclosed
**** or surrounded by something else.
**** https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+in >>>>>
YOU yourself uses the word "In"!...surrounded by something else.
Are you not aware of what you speak????
you are sayin: The universe hypersphere's boundary is enclosed or
surrounded by something else.
Not at all. The hypersphere is the final dimension and is
not in any higher... no more physical orientation exists beyond it.
There is only one universe measured...
Mitchell Raemsch
Don't use the word...."In".
You need to see beyond the boundary, beyond the borderline...beyond the
horizon.
There is no beyond the hypersphere universe.
Higher round is first with no physical before it.
There you will find...something else.
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