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    From RichD@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 6 12:33:28 2023
  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to RichD on Fri Oct 6 16:23:53 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:33:31 PM UTC-3, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    --
    Rich

    More einstenian crap, coming from science parasites.

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Fri Oct 6 17:33:31 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:23:55 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:33:31 PM UTC-3, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    --
    Rich

    More einstenian crap, coming from science parasites.

    You are just pissed because a scientist was quoted as saying... “With these new data and analysis, however, we’ve been able to find the elusive tick of the quasars and they behave just as Einstein’s relativity predicts,”

    You *still* don't know what you don't know, Dick, and this is blatantly obvious.

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  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Fri Oct 6 20:18:46 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:33:33 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:23:55 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:33:31 PM UTC-3, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    --
    Rich

    More einstenian crap, coming from science parasites.
    You are just pissed because a scientist was quoted as saying... “With these new data and analysis, however, we’ve been able to find the elusive tick of the quasars and they behave just as Einstein’s relativity predicts,”

    You *still* don't know what you don't know, Dick, and this is blatantly obvious.

    Not a scientist. Just a relativity theologian showing off how he can PLANT Einstein in things that the original cretin didn't even dream in his nightmares.

    Now this fucker is telling that "time is what my clock shows" also works in a stupid theory of BB, and THAT TIME can be "perceived" 13.5 billions years after.

    Fuck you and fuck all the fucking relativists, the pest of cosmology (the only PSEUDOSCIENCE where no one is accountable for the shit they JUST CLAIM.

    Go and prove/disprove what this MF or any of his kind publish, in order to get a trick from einstenian establishment (a jew thing).

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Fri Oct 6 21:01:53 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 8:18:49 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:33:33 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:23:55 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:33:31 PM UTC-3, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    --
    Rich

    More einstenian crap, coming from science parasites.
    You are just pissed because a scientist was quoted as saying... “With these new data and analysis, however, we’ve been able to find the elusive tick of the quasars and they behave just as Einstein’s relativity predicts,”

    You *still* don't know what you don't know, Dick, and this is blatantly obvious.

    Not a scientist. Just a relativity theologian showing off how he can PLANT Einstein in things that the original cretin didn't even dream in his nightmares.

    Now this fucker is telling that "time is what my clock shows" also works in a stupid theory of BB, and THAT TIME can be "perceived" 13.5 billions years after.

    Fuck you and fuck all the fucking relativists, the pest of cosmology (the only PSEUDOSCIENCE where no one is accountable for the shit they JUST CLAIM.

    Go and prove/disprove what this MF or any of his kind publish, in order to get a trick from einstenian establishment (a jew thing).

    Fuckinbg bigot! The world has no need of the likes of you! Eat shit and die!

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Fri Oct 6 21:25:42 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 8:18:49 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:33:33 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:23:55 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:33:31 PM UTC-3, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    --
    Rich

    More einstenian crap, coming from science parasites.
    You are just pissed because a scientist was quoted as saying... “With these new data and analysis, however, we’ve been able to find the elusive tick of the quasars and they behave just as Einstein’s relativity predicts,”

    You *still* don't know what you don't know, Dick, and this is blatantly obvious.

    Not a scientist. Just a relativity theologian showing off how he can PLANT Einstein in things that the original cretin didn't even dream in his nightmares.

    Not a scientist? You ignoramus. Here is a list of his publications...

    https://www.sydney.edu.au/science/about/our-people/academic-staff/geraint-lewis.html

    You are pretty much an accredited piece of shit...

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Fri Oct 6 23:00:15 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 10:49:04 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 1:25:44 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 8:18:49 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:33:33 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:23:55 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:33:31 PM UTC-3, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    --
    Rich

    More einstenian crap, coming from science parasites.
    You are just pissed because a scientist was quoted as saying... “With these new data and analysis, however, we’ve been able to find the elusive tick of the quasars and they behave just as Einstein’s relativity predicts,”

    You *still* don't know what you don't know, Dick, and this is blatantly obvious.

    Not a scientist. Just a relativity theologian showing off how he can PLANT Einstein in things that the original cretin didn't even dream in his nightmares.
    Not a scientist? You ignoramus. Here is a list of his publications...

    https://www.sydney.edu.au/science/about/our-people/academic-staff/geraint-lewis.html

    You are pretty much an accredited piece of shit...
    What did I tell you? A relativistic parasite milking the cow of einstenian GR till the end. To make it tasty, blending his shit with the BBT and the excuses of
    dark matter/energy IN ORDER TO FIX the wrong results of GR. Like Zelensky spending up to the last ukranian, this one waste resources to the end, in order
    to justify his miserable life (fate of the universe and GR? Fuck you!) trying to sustain a fairy tale, like thousands did in the last 100 years. Worthless AND,
    mainly, IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE, because relativity IS A PAGAN RELIGION BASED ON FAITH ON MATHEMATICAL PILES OF CRAP.

    QUOTE:
    "Professor Geraint Lewis undertakes a broad spectrum of research. On the largest scales, his program involves looking at the influence of dark energy and dark matter on the evolution and ultimate fate of the Universe. Another aspect of his research
    uses the phenomenon of gravitational lensing to probe the nature and distribution of the pervasive dark matter, and employing individual stars to magnify the hearts of quasars, the most luminous objects in the Universe".
    LLP

    How about an accredited list of your own publications, Bigmouth?

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  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Fri Oct 6 22:49:01 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 1:25:44 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 8:18:49 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:33:33 PM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:23:55 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:33:31 PM UTC-3, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    --
    Rich

    More einstenian crap, coming from science parasites.
    You are just pissed because a scientist was quoted as saying... “With these new data and analysis, however, we’ve been able to find the elusive tick of the quasars and they behave just as Einstein’s relativity predicts,”

    You *still* don't know what you don't know, Dick, and this is blatantly obvious.

    Not a scientist. Just a relativity theologian showing off how he can PLANT Einstein in things that the original cretin didn't even dream in his nightmares.
    Not a scientist? You ignoramus. Here is a list of his publications...

    https://www.sydney.edu.au/science/about/our-people/academic-staff/geraint-lewis.html

    You are pretty much an accredited piece of shit...

    What did I tell you? A relativistic parasite milking the cow of einstenian GR till the end. To make it tasty, blending his shit with the BBT and the excuses of
    dark matter/energy IN ORDER TO FIX the wrong results of GR. Like Zelensky spending up to the last ukranian, this one waste resources to the end, in order
    to justify his miserable life (fate of the universe and GR? Fuck you!) trying to sustain a fairy tale, like thousands did in the last 100 years. Worthless AND,
    mainly, IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE, because relativity IS A PAGAN RELIGION BASED ON FAITH ON MATHEMATICAL PILES OF CRAP.

    QUOTE:
    "Professor Geraint Lewis undertakes a broad spectrum of research. On the largest scales, his program involves looking at the influence of dark energy and dark matter on the evolution and ultimate fate of the Universe. Another aspect of his research uses
    the phenomenon of gravitational lensing to probe the nature and distribution of the pervasive dark matter, and employing individual stars to magnify the hearts of quasars, the most luminous objects in the Universe".

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  • From Lou@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sat Oct 7 06:25:40 2023
    On Saturday, 7 October 2023 at 01:33:33 UTC+1, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:23:55 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 4:33:31 PM UTC-3, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    --
    Rich

    More einstenian crap, coming from science parasites.
    You are just pissed because a scientist was quoted as saying... “With these new data and analysis, however, we’ve been able to find the elusive tick of the quasars and they behave just as Einstein’s relativity predicts,”

    You *still* don't know what you don't know, Dick, and this is blatantly obvious.

    Previous studies of Quasars show that they do not show time dilation vs distance.
    Fact. Based on empirical evidence.
    So what does this new ‘study’ do?
    They take the quasar ‘ticking’ that doesn’t appear to be time dilated as the Big Bang predicts....and using a mathematical sleight of hand, not unusual for dishonest relativists, and add in an imaginary slowing down of time to
    make the non dilated quasar data...look like it was time dilated.
    So the question is: If one takes non dilated quasar data that proves the universe
    isn’t expanding. And artificially dilate the data by pretending time slows down the farther
    back one looks. Does this prove the universe is expanding ?
    Or does it prove relativists are a pack of data falsifying liars?

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Oct 12 15:12:58 2023
    On October 6, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    I thought a clock always ticks at its own rate -

    --
    Rich

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  • From Tom Roberts@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Oct 12 19:04:17 2023
    On 10/12/23 5:12 PM, RichD wrote:
    On October 6, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    I thought a clock always ticks at its own rate -

    It does. Perhaps you should actually READ THE ARTICLE.

    "Scientists have for the first time OBSERVED the early
    universe running in extreme slow motion [...]" [emphasis
    mine]

    “If you were there, in this infant universe, one second
    would seem like one second – but from our position,
    more than 12 billion years into the future, that early
    time appears to drag.”

    Tom Roberts

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to Tom Roberts on Thu Oct 12 22:20:18 2023
    On Friday, 13 October 2023 at 02:04:30 UTC+2, Tom Roberts wrote:
    On 10/12/23 5:12 PM, RichD wrote:
    On October 6, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    I thought a clock always ticks at its own rate -
    It does. Perhaps you should actually READ THE ARTICLE.

    "Scientists have for the first time OBSERVED

    Or, at least, they've said they OBSERVED.
    Their reliability is next to 0, however.

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  • From Lou@21:1/5 to Tom Roberts on Fri Oct 13 00:47:26 2023
    On Friday, 13 October 2023 at 01:04:30 UTC+1, Tom Roberts wrote:
    On 10/12/23 5:12 PM, RichD wrote:
    On October 6, RichD wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html

    I thought a clock always ticks at its own rate -
    It does. Perhaps you should actually READ THE ARTICLE.

    "Scientists have for the first time OBSERVED the early
    universe running in extreme slow motion [...]" [emphasis
    mine]

    No they didn’t. They observed mature metal rich galaxies
    where the relativity based BBT predicted none. In addition to
    years of data showing that quasars exhibit no time dilation.
    But desperate times need desperate measures.

    “If you were there, in this infant universe, one second
    would seem like one second – but from our position,
    more than 12 billion years into the future, that early
    time appears to drag.”


    If one finds empirical observations don’t match your
    fantasies, then yes. But the more sensible option is to stick to the
    facts. And accept that no time dilation of quasars
    and thousands of mature metal rich galaxies where there should be
    none in recent JWST deep field images...disproves the BBT.
    Once and for all.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Tom Roberts on Fri Oct 13 14:48:16 2023
    On October 12, Tom Roberts wrote:
    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2023/07/04/quasar-clocks-show-universe-appears-five-times-slower-after-big-bang-einstein-relativity.html
    I thought a clock always ticks at its own rate -

    It does. Perhaps you should actually READ THE ARTICLE.
    "Scientists have for the first time OBSERVED the early
    universe running in extreme slow motion [...]"
    “If you were there, in this infant universe, one second
    would seem like one second – but from our position,
    more than 12 billion years into the future, that early
    time appears to drag.”

    To measure time dilation, one needs two identical clocks,
    previously synchronized, in two separate frames. Then
    Al watches Bob's clock, and sees it tick slower; GPS, e.g.

    They observed ancient quasars... compared to modern quasars?
    With assurance that they were manufactured in the same factory?

    What are the premises underlying this investigation?

    --
    Rich

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