• the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science

    From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 30 17:22:59 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science/541863/



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  • From Laurence Clark Crossen@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Sep 30 20:16:52 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 5:22:44 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science/541863/



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    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.
    I wonder why the relativists here have not received a prize for their defense of it.

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 1 08:06:49 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    Am 01.10.2023 um 02:22 schrieb The Starmaker:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science/541863/



    I'm unable to reach this website. it always says: 'we're working on it'
    and show an excuse screen.

    TH

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  • From Laurence Clark Crossen@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Oct 1 10:15:13 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 10:39:51 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science/541863/

    they gave the Nobel Prize to.....Bob Dylan???? all he did was steal
    'other' peoples music! and he couldn't even sing!!
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    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
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    and challenge the unchallengeable.
    He had a terrible voice. I guess you can't put any sock in these prizes.

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  • From Laurence Clark Crossen@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Sun Oct 1 10:17:12 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 11:04:47 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
    Am 01.10.2023 um 02:22 schrieb The Starmaker:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science/541863/



    I'm unable to reach this website. it always says: 'we're working on it'
    and show an excuse screen.

    TH
    Here's the final paragraph: "In fairness, unlike the problem of how many scientists to award in a given year, the issue of laureates going
    off the rails is not one that the Nobel committee can solve. That one’s on us—on our tendency to see the
    Nobel Prize as the apotheosis of scientific worth. It is not. Like every other prize, it is flawed and subjective.
    By reifying it, we overinflate the egos of those who receive it, and we undermine those who do not.
    “Ultimately, it’s up to us to dethrone the Nobel Prizes,” wrote science writer Matthew Francis last year. “They
    rule our perception of science and how it’s done by our consent, and it’s past time we withdrew that
    consent.”" Most of the rest talks of lack of diversity, focus on individuals, and misuse of their fame afterwards supporting things like eugenics in one case.

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to Laurence Clark Crossen on Mon Oct 2 11:15:36 2023
    On 01-Oct-23 2:16 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 5:22:44 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science/541863/



    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.
    I wonder why the relativists here have not received a prize for their defense of it.

    Nobel prizes in science are given for discoveries. Supporting an
    existing discovery doesn't cut it.

    Sylvia.

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  • From wugi@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 18:45:53 2023
    Op 1/10/2023 om 21:15 schreef Sylvia Else:
    On 01-Oct-23 2:16 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 5:22:44 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>> https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science/541863/



    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.
    I wonder why the relativists here have not received a prize for their
    defense of it.

    Nobel prizes in science are given for discoveries. Supporting an
    existing discovery doesn't cut it.

    Sylvia.

    I wonder why the antirelativists around haven't received a prize for
    *their* discoveries ;)

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    guido wugi

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Oct 4 20:35:46 2023
    XPost: sci.physics

    On 10/4/2023 4:10 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Is there a free trial of wsj, so I can make it forever? :)

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  • From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to wugi on Thu Oct 5 11:09:15 2023
    On 2023-10-04 21:45:53 +0000, wugi said:

    Op 1/10/2023 om 21:15 schreef Sylvia Else:
    On 01-Oct-23 2:16 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 5:22:44 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science/541863/




    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, >>>> and challenge the unchallengeable.
    I wonder why the relativists here have not received a prize for their
    defense of it.

    Nobel prizes in science are given for discoveries. Supporting an
    existing discovery doesn't cut it.

    Sylvia.

    I wonder why the antirelativists around haven't received a prize for
    *their* discoveries ;)

    Why indeed? Their work is far more important than a mere Nobel Prize
    could honour.


    --
    athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots

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  • From JanPB@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Mon Oct 9 12:51:50 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 5:22:44 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/10/the-absurdity-of-the-nobel-prizes-in-science/541863/

    And look at the recent Nobel for Katalin Kariko and Drew Weissman for
    the mRNA vaccine while the inventor of the technology, Robert Malone,
    is nowhere to be seen in Stockholm. Oh wait, he was warning in 2021 about problems with the technology and that vaccinating *everyone* against a fast-mutating
    virus like covid (rather than the vulnerable) was against decades-old well-understood science? So he (a world expert on mRNA vaccines) was
    instead banned by YouTube and the pre-Musk Twitter.

    --
    Jan

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