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    From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 11:05:41 2023
    How to correctly synchronize a relativistic frame?

    Is correct Einstein's procedure?

    R.H.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Thu Sep 21 22:15:04 2023
    On Thursday, 21 September 2023 at 13:05:44 UTC+2, Richard Hachel wrote:
    How to correctly synchronize a relativistic frame?

    Is correct Einstein's procedure?

    Correct or not, it doesn't work. Even its worshippers
    admit it's not going to work in non-inertial/gravity.
    I.e. everywhere.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to Mikko on Fri Sep 22 02:38:02 2023
    On Friday, 22 September 2023 at 11:24:27 UTC+2, Mikko wrote:
    On 2023-09-21 11:05:41 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

    How to correctly synchronize a relativistic frame?

    Is correct Einstein's procedure?
    EInstein's (or Poincaré's) procedure is correct as it is the definition
    of correct synchronization.

    And communism is the best political system, as
    it is the definition of the best political system.

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  • From Mikko@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Fri Sep 22 12:24:23 2023
    On 2023-09-21 11:05:41 +0000, Richard Hachel said:

    How to correctly synchronize a relativistic frame?

    Is correct Einstein's procedure?

    EInstein's (or Poincaré's) procedure is correct as it is the definition
    of correct synchronization. Any procedure that gives the same result
    is also correct, e.g., slow clock transport.

    Mikko

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 22 11:45:15 2023
    Le 22/09/2023 à 11:24, Mikko a écrit :

    EInstein's (or Poincaré's) procedure is correct as it is the definition
    of correct synchronization. Any procedure that gives the same result
    is also correct, e.g., slow clock transport.

    Mikko

    You are right, and basically I myself use this form of synchronization to
    deal with what we call observable velocities (Vo).

    What I criticize about the small passage (a few lines) in his 1905
    article, largely copied from the same article by Poincaré which bears the
    same name (dynamics of the electron), is that it does not explain anything
    at all about the way in which he believes himself authorized to practice
    this mode of synchronization.

    He sets tA'-tA=2AB/c

    Which is perfectly correct.

    He then poses, without thinking about what he is doing, and without
    explaining under what conditions he can do it, t(AB)=t(BA).

    This is both very right, and at the same time absolutely false and
    conceptually catastrophic.

    It is correct if we define who is the observer who triggers the watches,
    and if we specify clearly that it is an abstract, imaginary observer,
    ideally located in a hypothetical fourth dimension and who observes the universe with its own notion of “present time”.

    It is false if we believe that even two points in the universe apprehend something like an absolute and reciprocal simultaneity of existence.

    We must correctly redefine this notion of watch synchronization, which is valid, usable, but whose concept, nature and limits must be explained.

    I thank you for your remark, because it raises the most important point of
    the theory of relativity: the notion of synchronization and relative simultaneity.

    Its very important.

    It is the absolutely fundamental stone.

    Doctor Richard Hachel

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to Richard Hachel on Fri Sep 22 06:08:49 2023
    On Friday, 22 September 2023 at 13:45:18 UTC+2, Richard Hachel wrote:
    Le 22/09/2023 à 11:24, Mikko a écrit :

    EInstein's (or Poincaré's) procedure is correct as it is the definition of correct synchronization. Any procedure that gives the same result
    is also correct, e.g., slow clock transport.

    Mikko
    You are right, and basically I myself use this form of synchronization to deal with what we call observable velocities (Vo).

    What a pity that except some gedanking idiots
    nobody is going to ever use it .
    The reality is soooooo incorrect.

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