• Sagan does not have proof

    From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 12:12:59 2023
    science says it has none.
    Science can't claim much.
    Religion is better.
    Science is wrong.
    Science's missing link is
    truth.
    Look at emergence and
    punctuated equilibrium.
    Vastly different species jump one into
    another too fast.
    There is no reason for a different
    mutation time order.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon Aug 28 12:20:07 2023
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 21:13:02 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    science says it has none.
    Science can't claim much.
    Religion is better.

    Does it say it has proofs?

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Mon Aug 28 18:14:20 2023
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 12:20:09 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 21:13:02 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    science says it has none.
    Science can't claim much.
    Religion is better.
    Does it say it has proofs?

    God is Math before man is its proof.
    Yes. Also Spinoza. On God and Ethics
    was his attempt to prove.
    How can science disprove then?
    if he can't prove?
    Einstein said that was science's
    mistake.He didn't have anything to
    do with atheism.God was his God.
    Both personal and impersonal
    as he expressed in the end...

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  • From Laurence Clark Crossen@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon Aug 28 20:31:35 2023
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 12:13:02 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    science says it has none.
    Science can't claim much.
    Religion is better.
    Science is wrong.
    Science's missing link is
    truth.
    Look at emergence and
    punctuated equilibrium.
    Vastly different species jump one into
    another too fast.
    There is no reason for a different
    mutation time order.
    I don't buy punctuated equilibria unless some cause is unearthed for it. I don't think God would pull rabbits out of hats, either. He wouldn't be the showoffy type. Interesting discoveries of rapid evolution have been accepted. I read of years ago—
    especially reptiles and lizards. The Galapagos finches rapidly fluctuate in subspecific varieties with fluctuating climates so that during drying climates, the larger and harder beaks prevail.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon Aug 28 23:07:06 2023
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 03:14:22 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 12:20:09 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 21:13:02 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    science says it has none.
    Science can't claim much.
    Religion is better.
    Does it say it has proofs?
    God is Math before man is its proof.
    Yes. Also Spinoza. On God and Ethics
    was his attempt to prove.

    Well, science had also many attempts
    to prove.
    Anyway, both science and religion base
    on faith. They both are programming brains
    after all.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Python on Tue Aug 29 11:01:54 2023
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:
    smitch...@gmail.com wrote:
    ...
    God can do anything.

    Can God create a stone so heavy that He couldn't hold it?

    God is not an contradiction.
    There is an exception suggested. He cannot create a contradiction.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Maciej Wozniak on Tue Aug 29 10:57:09 2023
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:07:09 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    On Tuesday, 29 August 2023 at 03:14:22 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 12:20:09 PM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
    On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 21:13:02 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    science says it has none.
    Science can't claim much.
    Religion is better.
    Does it say it has proofs?
    God is Math before man is its proof.
    Yes. Also Spinoza. On God and Ethics
    was his attempt to prove.
    Well, science had also many attempts
    to prove.

    How is it attempting something it cannot do?
    God can do anything.

    Anyway, both science and religion base
    on faith. They both are programming brains
    after all.

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 20:05:25 2023
    smitchthebigot@gmail.com schworte:
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:
    smitch...@gmail.com wrote:
    ...
    God can do anything.

    Can God create a stone so heavy that He couldn't hold it?

    God is not an contradiction.
    There is an exception suggested. He cannot create a contradiction.

    So he cannot do anything.

    Face it Smitch: there is NO god...

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  • From patdolan@21:1/5 to Python on Tue Aug 29 11:08:10 2023
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:
    smitch...@gmail.com wrote:
    ...
    God can do anything.

    Can God create a stone so heavy that He couldn't hold it?
    According to the dialetheic logic of Graham Priest, yes and no.

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  • From patdolan@21:1/5 to Python on Tue Aug 29 11:10:20 2023
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 11:05:29 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:
    smitcht...@gmail.com schworte:
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:
    smitch...@gmail.com wrote:
    ...
    God can do anything.

    Can God create a stone so heavy that He couldn't hold it?

    God is not an contradiction.
    There is an exception suggested. He cannot create a contradiction.
    So he cannot do anything.

    Face it Smitch: there is NO god...

    So claims the Python.
    Never listen to a serpent, Mitch. Look what happened when Eve did.

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  • From Python@21:1/5 to smitchthekook@gmail.com on Tue Aug 29 19:58:48 2023
    smitchthekook@gmail.com wrote:
    ...
    God can do anything.

    Can God create a stone so heavy that He couldn't hold it?

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 18:39:10 2023
    Le 29/08/2023 à 19:58, Python a écrit :
    smitchthekook@gmail.com wrote:
    ...
    God can do anything.

    Can God create a stone so heavy that He couldn't hold it?

    Tu fais dans la théologie maintenant?

    R.H.

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  • From Richard Hachel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 22:24:12 2023
    Le 29/08/2023 à 20:10, patdolan a écrit :
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 11:05:29 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:
    smitcht...@gmail.com schworte:
    On Tuesday, August 29, 2023 at 10:58:52 AM UTC-7, Python wrote:
    smitch...@gmail.com wrote:
    ...
    God can do anything.

    Can God create a stone so heavy that He couldn't hold it?

    God is not an contradiction.
    There is an exception suggested. He cannot create a contradiction.
    So he cannot do anything.

    Face it Smitch: there is NO god...

    So claims the Python.
    Never listen to a serpent, Mitch. Look what happened when Eve did.

    C'est coup pour se faire mordre, ça.

    R.H.

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