Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.You remain curiously ignorantly
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
On 2023-08-27 04:25:01 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.Observed.
2. Length contraction.
Indirectly observed. No exception observed.
3. Equivalence "principle"
Confirmed. No exception observed.
4. Curved spacetime.
Observed.
Note that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" is not universally true.
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:Then they are only claimed to be true, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs, according to Carl Sagan.
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.You remain curiously ignorantly of the fact that no theorem in physics can ever be "proven" to be true... only proven to be false... and so far, no one has ever been able to prove any of your bullet points to be false...
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
On 2023-08-27 04:25:01 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:1. Only electromagnetic dilation has been observed, and no chemical, biological, or gravitational dilation, so it is not TIME dilation, as that would require it to be common to all processes. Pendulums demonstrate that time works for gravity, the
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.Observed.
2. Length contraction.
Indirectly observed. No exception observed.
3. Equivalence "principle"
Confirmed. No exception observed.
4. Curved spacetime.
Observed.
Note that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" is not universally true. Some people, e.g., Laurence Clark Crossen, do
accept and present extraordinary claims without extraordinary proof
or evidence. But in general, reasonable people do want proof (if the
claim is about mathematics) or evidence (if the claim is about the
real worldI, at least if the claim has some practical significance.
Mikko
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:Relativity is not science and it does not work.
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.This is not how science works.
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
You are fighting ghosts of your own imagination.
--
Jan
On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 1:18:18 AM UTC-7, Mikko wrote:
On 2023-08-27 04:25:01 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:1. Only electromagnetic dilation has been observed, and no chemical, biological, or gravitational dilation, so it is not TIME dilation, as that would require it to be common to all processes.
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:Observed.
1. Time dilation.
2. Length contraction.
Indirectly observed. No exception observed.
3. Equivalence "principle"
Confirmed. No exception observed.
4. Curved spacetime.
Observed.
Note that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" is not
universally true. Some people, e.g., Laurence Clark Crossen, do
accept and present extraordinary claims without extraordinary proof
or evidence. But in general, reasonable people do want proof (if the
claim is about mathematics) or evidence (if the claim is about the
real worldI, at least if the claim has some practical significance.
Mikko
Pendulums demonstrate that time works for gravity, the opposite of both SR and GR. In a rocket traveling 10g the pendulum moves faster and not slower.
2. Length contraction is the same as for time dilation. It is only shown in electromagnetic processes.
3. The equivalence principle is disproven by several facts, including that gravity diminishes by the inverse square law.
4. Curved spacetime is disproved by logic as it involves reification fallacy as any child could tell you.
On 8/27/2023 11:28 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 1:18:18 AM UTC-7, Mikko wrote:That is not true. Physical time dilation is routinely measured. In fact,
On 2023-08-27 04:25:01 +0000, Laurence Clark Crossen said:1. Only electromagnetic dilation has been observed, and no chemical, biological, or gravitational dilation, so it is not TIME dilation, as that would require it to be common to all processes.
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:Observed.
1. Time dilation.
2. Length contraction.
Indirectly observed. No exception observed.
3. Equivalence "principle"
Confirmed. No exception observed.
4. Curved spacetime.
Observed.
Note that "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" is not
universally true. Some people, e.g., Laurence Clark Crossen, do
accept and present extraordinary claims without extraordinary proof
or evidence. But in general, reasonable people do want proof (if the
claim is about mathematics) or evidence (if the claim is about the
real worldI, at least if the claim has some practical significance.
Mikko
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.You remain curiously ignorantly of the fact that no theorem in physics can ever be "proven" to be true... only proven to be false... and so far, no one has ever been able to prove any of your bullet points to be false...
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:26:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
Right paul. If science cannot prove anything what does it have..?1. Time dilation.You remain curiously ignorantly of the fact that no theorem in physics can ever be "proven" to be true... only proven to be false... and so far, no one has ever been able to prove any of your bullet points to be false...
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
Religion has always been better than science
Math before man proves God.
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:originating or defining “test” of general relativity" - "Diffusion Gravity (5): Perihelion Precessions as Indicators of Galactic Gravity" Dale Fulton
1. Time dilation.
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5. That relativity explains Mercurys anomalous perihelion advance: "Mercury’s perihelion precession shows there may be sufficient and compelling reason to re-visit the currently accepted model of Mercury’s perihelion precession, and its use as an
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:originating or defining “test” of general relativity" - "Diffusion Gravity (5): Perihelion Precessions as Indicators of Galactic Gravity" Dale Fulton
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
1. Time dilation.
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5. That relativity explains Mercurys anomalous perihelion advance: "Mercury’s perihelion precession shows there may be sufficient and compelling reason to re-visit the currently accepted model of Mercury’s perihelion precession, and its use as an
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On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 20:46:22 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:26:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
Faith. Faith works.Right paul. If science cannot prove anything what does it have..?1. Time dilation.You remain curiously ignorantly of the fact that no theorem in physics can ever be "proven" to be true... only proven to be false... and so far, no one has ever been able to prove any of your bullet points to be false...
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
Religion has always been better than science
Math before man proves God.
On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 20:46:22 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:26:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
Right paul. If science cannot prove anything what does it have..?1. Time dilation.You remain curiously ignorantly of the fact that no theorem in physics can ever be "proven" to be true... only proven to be false... and so far, no one has ever been able to prove any of your bullet points to be false...
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
Faith. Faith works.
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:56:11 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:Obviously, we have probabilities such as Newtonian reality and improbabilities such as relativistic fairy tales.
On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 20:46:22 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:26:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
since where does science advocate that reality?Faith. Faith works.Right paul. If science cannot prove anything what does it have..?1. Time dilation.You remain curiously ignorantly of the fact that no theorem in physics can ever be "proven" to be true... only proven to be false... and so far, no one has ever been able to prove any of your bullet points to be false...
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
Science is wrong.
Religion has always been better than science
Math before man proves God.
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 6:18:03 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:56:11 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 20:46:22 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:26:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
since where does science advocate that reality?Faith. Faith works.Right paul. If science cannot prove anything what does it have..?1. Time dilation.You remain curiously ignorantly of the fact that no theorem in physics can ever be "proven" to be true... only proven to be false... and so far, no one has ever been able to prove any of your bullet points to be false...
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
Science is wrong.
Religion has always been better than science
Math before man proves God.
Obviously, we have probabilities such as Newtonian reality and improbabilities such as relativistic fairy tales.
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 8:18:10 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 6:18:03 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 11:56:11 AM UTC-7, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
On Monday, 28 August 2023 at 20:46:22 UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 10:26:21 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:25:04 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
Examples of extraordinary claims remaining completely unproven:
since where does science advocate that reality?Faith. Faith works.Right paul. If science cannot prove anything what does it have..?1. Time dilation.You remain curiously ignorantly of the fact that no theorem in physics can ever be "proven" to be true... only proven to be false... and so far, no one has ever been able to prove any of your bullet points to be false...
2. Length contraction.
3. Equivalence "principle"
4. Curved spacetime.
5.
Science is wrong.
Religion has always been better than science
Math before man proves God.
Obviously, we have probabilities such as Newtonian reality and improbabilities such as relativistic fairy tales.You continue to fail to provide any evidence to support your claim that relativity is false. ZERO. EVIDENCE.
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