How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.other rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change) changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an unwarranted inference.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change in the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that any
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include:6. Nukular processes: receding stars and galaxies should evidence a decrease in brightness in addition to the doppler decrease. This additional decrease in brightness should be proportional to gamma and be due to the decreased rate of nukular reactions
1. Aging.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of
change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate
changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change in
the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with
ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that any other
rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change)
changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an unwarranted inference.
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include:
1. Aging.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-6, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:"The paper was published on 16 September in Physical Review Letters1. It is the culmination of 15 years of work by an international group of collaborators including Nobel laureate Theodor Hänsch, director of the Max Planck optics institute....
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of
change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate
changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change inI presume you are referring to this:
the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with
ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that any other
rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change)
changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an
unwarranted inference.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.15970
It confirms the prediction of SR. There are many more. Atomic clocks in motion and at
different gravitational potentials have been shown to undergo time dilation.
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include: 1. Aging.Time dilation in most such processes are predicted to be too slow to be measured.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
Do you have a valid theory that would explain why they wouldn't be affected?
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-6, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:No. I know of no good reason why they would be affected. I know of many reasons why they would not. All kinds of processes are already known not to change their rate in the same direction and the same amount due to fast motion. For example, light clocks
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of
change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate
changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change inI presume you are referring to this:
the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with
ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that any other
rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change)
changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an
unwarranted inference.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.15970
It confirms the prediction of SR. There are many more. Atomic clocks in motion and at
different gravitational potentials have been shown to undergo time dilation.
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include: 1. Aging.Time dilation in most such processes are predicted to be too slow to be measured.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
Do you have a valid theory that would explain why they wouldn't be affected?
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 4:19:00 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:clocks oriented on their side or with the beam going in the direction of the ship's motion would keep time exactly as on Earth. It would only work like Einstein's light clock when the beam moves up and down.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-6, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of
change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate
changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change inI presume you are referring to this:
the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with
ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that any other
rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change)
changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an
unwarranted inference.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.15970
It confirms the prediction of SR. There are many more. Atomic clocks in motion and atNo. I know of no good reason why they would be affected. I know of many reasons why they would not. All kinds of processes are already known not to change their rate in the same direction and the same amount due to fast motion. For example, light
different gravitational potentials have been shown to undergo time dilation.
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include:Time dilation in most such processes are predicted to be too slow to be measured.
1. Aging.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
Do you have a valid theory that would explain why they wouldn't be affected?
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 5:41:53 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:clocks oriented on their side or with the beam going in the direction of the ship's motion would keep time exactly as on Earth. It would only work like Einstein's light clock when the beam moves up and down.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 4:19:00 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-6, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of
change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate
changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change inI presume you are referring to this:
the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with
ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that any other
rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change)
changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an
unwarranted inference.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.15970
It confirms the prediction of SR. There are many more. Atomic clocks in motion and atNo. I know of no good reason why they would be affected. I know of many reasons why they would not. All kinds of processes are already known not to change their rate in the same direction and the same amount due to fast motion. For example, light
different gravitational potentials have been shown to undergo time dilation.
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include:Time dilation in most such processes are predicted to be too slow to be measured.
1. Aging.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
Do you have a valid theory that would explain why they wouldn't be affected?
There is a practical reason to believe in Gamma math for high speed time dilation besidesI wouldn't count on it. Maybe wormholes?
fundamental physics. It is necessary for space travel. We need the slow time advantage for it.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 7:34:04 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:clocks oriented on their side or with the beam going in the direction of the ship's motion would keep time exactly as on Earth. It would only work like Einstein's light clock when the beam moves up and down.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 5:41:53 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 4:19:00 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-6, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of
change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate
changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change inI presume you are referring to this:
the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with
ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that any other
rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change)
changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an
unwarranted inference.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.15970
It confirms the prediction of SR. There are many more. Atomic clocks in motion and atNo. I know of no good reason why they would be affected. I know of many reasons why they would not. All kinds of processes are already known not to change their rate in the same direction and the same amount due to fast motion. For example, light
different gravitational potentials have been shown to undergo time dilation.
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include:Time dilation in most such processes are predicted to be too slow to be measured.
1. Aging.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
Do you have a valid theory that would explain why they wouldn't be affected?
There is a practical reason to believe in Gamma math for high speed time dilation besidesI wouldn't count on it. Maybe wormholes?
fundamental physics. It is necessary for space travel. We need the slow time advantage for it.
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 4:19:00 PM UTC-7, Gary Harnagel wrote:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2014.15970
It confirms the prediction of SR. There are many more. Atomic clocks in motion and at
different gravitational potentials have been shown to undergo time dilation.
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include:
1. Aging.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
Time dilation in most such processes are predicted to be too slow to be measured.
Do you have a valid theory that would explain why they wouldn't be affected?
No. I know of no good reason why they would be affected. I know of many reasons why
they would not. All kinds of processes are already known not to change their rate in the
same direction and the same amount due to fast motion.
For example, light clocks oriented on their side or with the beam going in the direction of
the ship's motion would keep time exactly as on Earth. It would only work like Einstein's
light clock when the beam moves up and down.
Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:any other rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change) changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an unwarranted inference.
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change in the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include: 1. Aging.What you mean is that time dilation is not a constant. But even Albert Einstein knows that.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
That means you perform a time dilation experiment.
if there are no results
try another day.
if there are no results
try another day.
if there are no results
try another day.
if you get results..
then you have time dilation.
if there are no results
try another day again.
if there are no results
try at another time again.
if there are no results
try at another time again.
if there are no results
try at another time again.
if you get results..
then you have time dilation.
So, the question is...When does time dilate?
Mondays,
Tuesdays
Fridays
morning
afternoon
monthly
every half hour?
When does time dilate?
Time dilation is not a constant. But even Albert Einstein knows that.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.other rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change) changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an unwarranted inference.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change in the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that any
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include:
1. Aging.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6.
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.other rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change) changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an unwarranted inference.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change in the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that any
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include:
1. Aging.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6. GRAVITY, e.g. pendulums oscillate faster in more gravity. [For pathetic attempt by relativists to rebut this please see: "Einstein versus the simple pendulum formula: does gravity slow all clocks?"]
On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 2:50:53 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:any other rate of change slows with speed, much less that time itself (all rates of change) changes with speed. To conclude that it proves time changes with speed is an unwarranted inference.
How everyone can easily know time does not dilate.
Re: Case of Time dilation caused by high speed:
Because time involves all rates of change, for the rate of time to change, all rates of change would have to change in unison. Therefore, experiments proving one rate changes with high speed do not prove all or any other rates change commensurately.
For example:
The particle accelerator experiment with Lithium ions merely measured the change in the number of transitions of electrons at one-third the speed of light compared with ions not moving. It only proved those transitions slowed. It did not prove that
Rates of change that have not been proven to slow at high speeds include: 1. Aging.
2. Metabolism.
3. Non-electromagnetic phenomena.
4. Growth.
5. Chemical processes.
6. GRAVITY, e.g. pendulums oscillate faster in more gravity. [For pathetic attempt by relativists to rebut this please see: "Einstein versus the simple pendulum formula: does gravity slow all clocks?"]
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