• Can you list advances provided by general relativity in 105 years?

    From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 20 19:02:25 2023
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to
    privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.



    -

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Sun Aug 20 20:11:52 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.

    https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html

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  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Sun Aug 20 20:21:41 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 11:02:27 PM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.



    -

    Asked to Google AI (Bard): advances provided by general relativity

    ANSWER

    General relativity is a theory of gravity that was developed by Albert Einstein in the early 20th century. It is a more accurate description of gravity than Newton's law of universal gravitation, and it has been verified by many experiments and
    observations.

    Some of the advances provided by general relativity include:

    - A better understanding of black holes. General relativity predicts the existence of black holes, which are regions of space where the
    gravitational field is so strong that not even light can escape. This prediction has been confirmed by observations of stars that are
    orbiting something invisible and very massive at the center of our galaxy. NOTE: INVENTED BY GR.

    - A better understanding of gravitational waves. Gravitational waves are ripples in the fabric of spacetime that are caused by massive
    objects moving around. General relativity predicts the existence of gravitational waves, and these waves have been detected directly
    for the first time in 2015. NOTE: INVENTED BY GR.

    - A better understanding of the expansion of the universe. General relativity predicts that the universe is expanding, and this prediction
    has been confirmed by observations of distant galaxies. NOTE: ALLEGED DISCOVERY BY HUBBLE. SEQUESTERED BY GR.

    - A better understanding of the Big Bang. General relativity is the foundation of the Big Bang theory, which is the prevailing model for
    the evolution of the universe. NOTE: THEORETICAL PROPOSAL BY LE MAITRE. SEQUESTERED BY GR.

    General relativity is a complex theory, but it has had a profound impact on our understanding of the universe. It is still being studied and developed today, and it is likely to continue to provide new insights into the nature of gravity and the universe
    for many years to come.

    NOTE: NOTHING. ZERO. NULL. НУЛЬ. SIFIR. SỐ KHÔNG. נול. صفر. ゼロ. NADA. ΜΗΔΕΝ. NIHIL. ศูนย์.


    Here are some other PRACTICAL applications of general relativity:

    GPS: The Global Positioning System (GPS) relies on the theory of general relativity to keep its clocks synchronized. This is because
    the gravitational field of the Earth slows down time, and general relativity takes this into account. NOTE: A LIE.

    Gravitational lensing: Gravitational lensing is the bending of light by a massive object. This can be used to study objects that are
    otherwise too faint to see, such as distant galaxies. NOTE: A LIE.

    Neutron star mergers: Neutron star mergers are one of the most energetic events in the universe. They can be used to study the
    properties of neutron stars and to test the theory of general relativity. NOTE: A LIE.

    These are just a few of the advances that have been made possible by general relativity. As our understanding of this theory continues
    to grow, we can expect to learn even more about the universe and its workings. NOTE: BULLSHIT.

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  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sun Aug 20 20:23:40 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.
    https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html

    I clearly wrote: GENERAL RELATIVITY, fucking dyslexic AND retarded.

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  • From Dono.@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sun Aug 20 20:36:07 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 8:11:54 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.
    https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html
    The dumbestfuck crank wanted GR only. He got GR.

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Sun Aug 20 20:54:38 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 8:23:43 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.

    https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html

    I clearly wrote: GENERAL RELATIVITY, fucking dyslexic AND retarded.

    If brains were dynamite you could not blow your nose...

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  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sun Aug 20 22:12:21 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 2:01:22 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 8:23:43 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.
    https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html
    I clearly wrote: GENERAL RELATIVITY, fucking dyslexic AND retarded.
    OK, dumbfuck, there is always more for you to suck on...

    https://chandra.harvard.edu/blog/node/580

    "One of the most spectacular applications of Einstein’s theory is the use of GR to describe the behavior of matter near the event horizon of a black hole".

    Fuck you, imbecile.

    Detail PROOFS and IMPORTANCE.

    Can't? Of course that you can't. Nobody can't prove fairy tales.

    But you're happy being fed with this shit all the time. Enjoy the meal, then.

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Sun Aug 20 22:01:19 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 8:23:43 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.
    https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html
    I clearly wrote: GENERAL RELATIVITY, fucking dyslexic AND retarded.

    OK, dumbfuck, there is always more for you to suck on...

    https://chandra.harvard.edu/blog/node/580

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  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sun Aug 20 22:52:26 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 2:26:43 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:12:25 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 2:01:22 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 8:23:43 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer
    technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to
    privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.
    https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html
    I clearly wrote: GENERAL RELATIVITY, fucking dyslexic AND retarded.

    OK, dumbfuck, there is always more for you to suck on...

    https://chandra.harvard.edu/blog/node/580

    "One of the most spectacular applications of Einstein’s theory is the use of GR to describe the behavior of matter near the event horizon of a black hole".

    Fuck you, imbecile.

    Detail PROOFS and IMPORTANCE.
    It is common knowledge that you cannot prove a theorem to be correct in physics... didn't you know this, Dick? On the other hand, it IS possible to prove a theorem wrong. Where is your evidence that GR is wrong?

    Evidence rules, Dick, so where is yours?

    Theorem: "a general proposition not self-evident but proved by a chain of reasoning; a truth established by means of accepted truths".

    How many times do I have to repeat that you're a fucking retarded?

    Give me a break, please.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sun Aug 20 22:44:18 2023
    On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 07:26:43 UTC+2, Paul Alsing wrote:


    Evidence rules, Dick

    Have any evidence for that, poor trash?
    Come on, evidence is only making relativistic
    idiots barking more fiercely.

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Sun Aug 20 22:26:41 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 10:12:25 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 2:01:22 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 8:23:43 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-3, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer
    technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.
    https://www.livescience.com/58245-theory-of-relativity-in-real-life.html
    I clearly wrote: GENERAL RELATIVITY, fucking dyslexic AND retarded.

    OK, dumbfuck, there is always more for you to suck on...

    https://chandra.harvard.edu/blog/node/580

    "One of the most spectacular applications of Einstein’s theory is the use of GR to describe the behavior of matter near the event horizon of a black hole".

    Fuck you, imbecile.

    Detail PROOFS and IMPORTANCE.

    It is common knowledge that you cannot prove a theorem to be correct in physics... didn't you know this, Dick? On the other hand, it IS possible to prove a theorem wrong. Where is your evidence that GR is wrong?

    Evidence rules, Dick, so where is yours?

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  • From JanPB@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Sun Aug 20 23:54:57 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.

    A monomaniac.

    --
    Jan

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Mon Aug 21 10:36:35 2023
    Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.

    General Relativity has gone the way of all succesful science:
    it has become applied science, aka engineering.
    It must be taken into account for clock synchronisation on Earth,
    for example. Daily life depends on that, from trivialities
    like timestaming of share transactions
    to keeping up distribution networks.
    The determination of the orientation of the Earth in space
    by VLBI also depends on it.

    It is also essential for accurate satellite navigation around Earth,
    and for spacecraft navigation throughout the Solar System.

    The simple fact is that -everything- is relativistic,
    if you measure accurately enough.
    And yes, we do measure accurately enough.

    You are completely unaware of the precision revolution
    that has taken place in the last forty years,
    (and don't be ashamed, also many others)

    Jan

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Mon Aug 21 02:55:21 2023
    On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 10:36:39 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.
    General Relativity has gone the way of all succesful science:
    it has become applied science, aka engineering.

    For innocent kiddies - just an impudent lie, nothing
    more. All applications they're creating are Euclid
    based, not even talking about forbidden by the
    idiots clock synchronization.

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  • From Maciej Wozniak@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Mon Aug 21 03:48:33 2023
    On Monday, 21 August 2023 at 12:43:18 UTC+2, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    Richard Hertz <hert...@gmail.com> wrote:

    How many times do I have to repeat that you're a fucking retarded?

    Give me a break, please.
    In order to be given a break you need to deserve it.
    People who persistently call others 'a fucking retard'
    deserve all they get.

    Calling others "nazi kapos", "Polish drunkards" ,
    "licking toilets janitors" is, of course, completely
    different, as it is done in the name of The Holy
    Shit and its enemies "deserve all they get".

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Mon Aug 21 12:43:14 2023
    Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:

    How many times do I have to repeat that you're a fucking retarded?

    Give me a break, please.

    In order to be given a break you need to deserve it.
    People who persistently call others 'a fucking retard'
    deserve all they get.

    Are you really incapable of behaving in a more civilised manner?

    Jan

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  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Mon Aug 21 06:10:38 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:36:39 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    <snip>

    General Relativity has gone the way of all succesful science:
    it has become applied science, aka engineering.
    It must be taken into account for clock synchronisation on Earth,
    for example. Daily life depends on that, from trivialities like timestaming of share transactions to keeping up distribution networks.

    YOU ARE A DEGENERATE LIAR AND DECEIVER. NOTHING OF THE ABOVE IS RELATED TO GR IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY.
    ANOTHER EXPLANATION IS THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS IS TRUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE AN SCHIZO BEYOND CURE.

    - Do you have ANY PROOF that GR has become applied science, aka engineering?
    - Do you have ANY PROOF that daily life depends on the use of GR in technology, services and trading?
    - Do you have ANY PROOF that timestamping is performed at the attosecond level for HFT in stock exchanges?
    - Do you have ANY PROOF that logistics rely on GR. Are you THAT INSANE?


    The determination of the orientation of the Earth in space by VLBI also depends on it.

    LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. The position of Earth on the 3D space changes every fucking second, with NO THEORY
    AVAILABLE to support this FACT, because the complexity involved is beyond human capabilities AND the COST to
    refine it to the microseconds (time) and microseconds of arc (angular resolution as seen from Earth or anywhere else)
    is beyond any CBR applied to this STUPID and FAKE assertion.

    It is also essential for accurate satellite navigation around Earth,
    and for spacecraft navigation throughout the Solar System.

    LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. Newtonian precision far exceeds the current and future needs of space agencies.
    Are you really convinced that resolution in the PICOSECOND LEVEL are required for celestial mechanics and spacecraft sciences?
    Are you that SICK and LUNATIC BASTARD to lie about what is essential in space science nowadays? Who the fuck are you, asshole?

    You are so void of arguments to prove that resolutions higher than 1/10,000,000,000 is REQUIRED and USED today or in the near future?

    Your demented, sick mind is thinking about STAR TREK'S TELEPORTATION of humans, and think that Hollywood is the real deal.

    It sucks to be a paranoid schizophrenic like you, demented loser.


    The simple fact is that -everything- is relativistic,
    if you measure accurately enough.
    And yes, we do measure accurately enough.

    You are completely unaware of the precision revolution
    that has taken place in the last forty years,
    (and don't be ashamed, also many others)

    Jan

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  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Mon Aug 21 06:54:31 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 10:10:41 AM UTC-3, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:36:39 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    <snip>
    General Relativity has gone the way of all succesful science:
    it has become applied science, aka engineering.
    It must be taken into account for clock synchronisation on Earth,
    for example. Daily life depends on that, from trivialities like timestaming of share transactions to keeping up distribution networks.
    YOU ARE A DEGENERATE LIAR AND DECEIVER. NOTHING OF THE ABOVE IS RELATED TO GR IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY.
    ANOTHER EXPLANATION IS THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS IS TRUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE AN SCHIZO BEYOND CURE.

    - Do you have ANY PROOF that GR has become applied science, aka engineering? - Do you have ANY PROOF that daily life depends on the use of GR in technology, services and trading?
    - Do you have ANY PROOF that timestamping is performed at the attosecond level for HFT in stock exchanges?
    - Do you have ANY PROOF that logistics rely on GR. Are you THAT INSANE?
    The determination of the orientation of the Earth in space by VLBI also depends on it.
    LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. The position of Earth on the 3D space changes every fucking second, with NO THEORY
    AVAILABLE to support this FACT, because the complexity involved is beyond human capabilities AND the COST to
    refine it to the microseconds (time) and microseconds of arc (angular resolution as seen from Earth or anywhere else)
    is beyond any CBR applied to this STUPID and FAKE assertion.
    It is also essential for accurate satellite navigation around Earth,
    and for spacecraft navigation throughout the Solar System.
    LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. Newtonian precision far exceeds the current and future needs of space agencies.
    Are you really convinced that resolution in the PICOSECOND LEVEL are required for celestial mechanics and spacecraft sciences?
    Are you that SICK and LUNATIC BASTARD to lie about what is essential in space science nowadays? Who the fuck are you, asshole?

    You are so void of arguments to prove that resolutions higher than 1/10,000,000,000 is REQUIRED and USED today or in the near future?

    Your demented, sick mind is thinking about STAR TREK'S TELEPORTATION of humans, and think that Hollywood is the real deal.

    It sucks to be a paranoid schizophrenic like you, demented loser.
    The simple fact is that -everything- is relativistic,
    if you measure accurately enough.
    And yes, we do measure accurately enough.

    You are completely unaware of the precision revolution
    that has taken place in the last forty years,
    (and don't be ashamed, also many others)

    Jan

    And one more thing, which is fundamental for this discussion:

    Since 1972, and for more than 45 years, I had THE PRIVILEGE to be actor and witness of the evolution and applications of
    technologies in THE REAL WORLD, from a first class position as an EE with two masters in the world of defense and civilian
    technologies, ranging from electromagnetism-photonics-time keeping to microelectronics, sensors and computer sciences.

    First class means: I've been related to most of what I write about here than anyone at this forum.

    Not like the imbecile of Dono, who designed the Apple II color graphics card at the peak of his lame career.

    I mean: involved in multi-billion USD projects, interacting with the MAJOR PLAYERS in technology, who shaped THIS world.

    What did you do in the last 50 years, besides living with parrots to learn from them? What did you REALLY built, if anything?

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  • From George Hammond@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 22 01:08:22 2023
    .
    ~George E Hammond MS physics!
    .
    1 – The Atom Bomb (1945)
    2 – The Scientific Proof of God
    ......... (SPOG – HAMMOND 2020)
    .
    |a² o o o. |
    |o a² o o. | = HAMMOND METRIC OF GOD
    |o o a² o. |
    |ooo-1/a²|
    ..
    God and the Atomic Bomb is enough
    for anybody !
    .
    George

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  • From JanPB@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Tue Aug 22 15:48:00 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 6:10:41 AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:36:39 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    <snip>
    General Relativity has gone the way of all succesful science:
    it has become applied science, aka engineering.
    It must be taken into account for clock synchronisation on Earth,
    for example. Daily life depends on that, from trivialities like timestaming of share transactions to keeping up distribution networks.
    YOU ARE A DEGENERATE LIAR AND DECEIVER. NOTHING OF THE ABOVE IS RELATED TO GR IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY.
    ANOTHER EXPLANATION IS THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS IS TRUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE AN SCHIZO BEYOND CURE.

    - Do you have ANY PROOF that GR has become applied science, aka engineering? - Do you have ANY PROOF that daily life depends on the use of GR in technology, services and trading?
    - Do you have ANY PROOF that timestamping is performed at the attosecond level for HFT in stock exchanges?
    - Do you have ANY PROOF that logistics rely on GR. Are you THAT INSANE?
    The determination of the orientation of the Earth in space by VLBI also depends on it.
    LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. The position of Earth on the 3D space changes every fucking second, with NO THEORY
    AVAILABLE to support this FACT, because the complexity involved is beyond human capabilities AND the COST to
    refine it to the microseconds (time) and microseconds of arc (angular resolution as seen from Earth or anywhere else)
    is beyond any CBR applied to this STUPID and FAKE assertion.
    It is also essential for accurate satellite navigation around Earth,
    and for spacecraft navigation throughout the Solar System.
    LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. Newtonian precision far exceeds the current and future needs of space agencies.
    Are you really convinced that resolution in the PICOSECOND LEVEL are required for celestial mechanics and spacecraft sciences?
    Are you that SICK and LUNATIC BASTARD to lie about what is essential in space science nowadays? Who the fuck are you, asshole?

    You are so void of arguments to prove that resolutions higher than 1/10,000,000,000 is REQUIRED and USED today or in the near future?

    Your demented, sick mind is thinking about STAR TREK'S TELEPORTATION of humans, and think that Hollywood is the real deal.

    It sucks to be a paranoid schizophrenic like you, demented loser.
    The simple fact is that -everything- is relativistic,
    if you measure accurately enough.
    And yes, we do measure accurately enough.

    You are completely unaware of the precision revolution
    that has taken place in the last forty years,
    (and don't be ashamed, also many others)

    Jan

    Richard is a complete lunatic.

    --
    Jan

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Tue Aug 22 22:14:19 2023
    On 8/21/2023 9:10 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:

    YOU ARE A DEGENERATE LIAR AND DECEIVER. NOTHING OF THE ABOVE IS RELATED TO GR IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY.
    ANOTHER EXPLANATION IS THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS IS TRUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE AN SCHIZO BEYOND CURE.

    Dick is off his meds again!

    (you may say he's *always* off his meds but he's worse than usual here)

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to JanPB on Wed Aug 23 11:08:09 2023
    JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 6:10:41?AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:36:39?AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    <snip>
    General Relativity has gone the way of all succesful science:
    it has become applied science, aka engineering.
    It must be taken into account for clock synchronisation on Earth, for example. Daily life depends on that, from trivialities like
    timestaming of share transactions to keeping up distribution networks.
    YOU ARE A DEGENERATE LIAR AND DECEIVER. NOTHING OF THE ABOVE IS RELATED
    TO GR IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY. ANOTHER EXPLANATION IS THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS
    IS TRUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE AN SCHIZO BEYOND CURE.

    - Do you have ANY PROOF that GR has become applied science, aka engineering? - Do you have ANY PROOF that daily life depends on the use
    of GR in technology, services and trading? - Do you have ANY PROOF that timestamping is performed at the attosecond level for HFT in stock exchanges? - Do you have ANY PROOF that logistics rely on GR. Are you
    THAT INSANE? > The determination of the orientation of the Earth in
    space by VLBI also depends on it. LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. The position
    of Earth on the 3D space changes every fucking second, with NO THEORY AVAILABLE to support this FACT, because the complexity involved is
    beyond human capabilities AND the COST to refine it to the microseconds (time) and microseconds of arc (angular resolution as seen from Earth or anywhere else) is beyond any CBR applied to this STUPID and FAKE
    assertion. > It is also essential for accurate satellite navigation
    around Earth, > and for spacecraft navigation throughout the Solar
    System. LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. Newtonian precision far exceeds the current and future needs of space agencies. Are you really convinced
    that resolution in the PICOSECOND LEVEL are required for celestial mechanics and spacecraft sciences? Are you that SICK and LUNATIC BASTARD
    to lie about what is essential in space science nowadays? Who the fuck
    are you, asshole?

    You are so void of arguments to prove that resolutions higher than 1/10,000,000,000 is REQUIRED and USED today or in the near future?

    Your demented, sick mind is thinking about STAR TREK'S TELEPORTATION of humans, and think that Hollywood is the real deal.

    It sucks to be a paranoid schizophrenic like you, demented loser.
    The simple fact is that -everything- is relativistic,
    if you measure accurately enough.
    And yes, we do measure accurately enough.

    You are completely unaware of the precision revolution
    that has taken place in the last forty years,
    (and don't be ashamed, also many others)

    Jan

    Richard is a complete lunatic.

    Yes, he seems to have lost it completely,

    Jan

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Wed Aug 23 10:41:42 2023
    On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 2:08:12 AM UTC-7, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    JanPB <fil...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 6:10:41?AM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 5:36:39?AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    <snip>
    General Relativity has gone the way of all succesful science:
    it has become applied science, aka engineering.
    It must be taken into account for clock synchronisation on Earth, for example. Daily life depends on that, from trivialities like timestaming of share transactions to keeping up distribution networks.
    YOU ARE A DEGENERATE LIAR AND DECEIVER. NOTHING OF THE ABOVE IS RELATED TO GR IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY. ANOTHER EXPLANATION IS THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS IS TRUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE AN SCHIZO BEYOND CURE.

    - Do you have ANY PROOF that GR has become applied science, aka engineering? - Do you have ANY PROOF that daily life depends on the use of GR in technology, services and trading? - Do you have ANY PROOF that timestamping is performed at the attosecond level for HFT in stock exchanges? - Do you have ANY PROOF that logistics rely on GR. Are you THAT INSANE? > The determination of the orientation of the Earth in space by VLBI also depends on it. LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. The position of Earth on the 3D space changes every fucking second, with NO THEORY AVAILABLE to support this FACT, because the complexity involved is beyond human capabilities AND the COST to refine it to the microseconds (time) and microseconds of arc (angular resolution as seen from Earth or anywhere else) is beyond any CBR applied to this STUPID and FAKE assertion. > It is also essential for accurate satellite navigation around Earth, > and for spacecraft navigation throughout the Solar System. LIAR, DECEIVER, SOPHIST. Newtonian precision far exceeds the current and future needs of space agencies. Are you really convinced that resolution in the PICOSECOND LEVEL are required for celestial mechanics and spacecraft sciences? Are you that SICK and LUNATIC BASTARD to lie about what is essential in space science nowadays? Who the fuck are you, asshole?

    You are so void of arguments to prove that resolutions higher than 1/10,000,000,000 is REQUIRED and USED today or in the near future?

    Your demented, sick mind is thinking about STAR TREK'S TELEPORTATION of humans, and think that Hollywood is the real deal.

    It sucks to be a paranoid schizophrenic like you, demented loser.
    The simple fact is that -everything- is relativistic,
    if you measure accurately enough.
    And yes, we do measure accurately enough.

    You are completely unaware of the precision revolution
    that has taken place in the last forty years,
    (and don't be ashamed, also many others)

    Jan

    Richard is a complete lunatic.
    Yes, he seems to have lost it completely,

    Jan

    General relativity doesn't always apply.
    The space curve does not always curve motion.
    The Sun curve meeting the Moon center in space
    but does not curve its motion like it does the
    Earth elliptical orbit. GR is known as a limiting
    case for Einstein's theory. Einstein knew it
    could happen... but he did not see what it
    would be...


    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Gary Harnagel@21:1/5 to Volney on Thu Aug 24 11:14:33 2023
    On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 8:14:23 PM UTC-6, Volney wrote:

    On 8/21/2023 9:10 AM, Richard Hertz wrote:

    YOU ARE A DEGENERATE LIAR AND DECEIVER. NOTHING OF THE ABOVE IS RELATED TO GR IN ANY POSSIBLE WAY.
    ANOTHER EXPLANATION IS THAT YOU BELIEVE THIS IS TRUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE AN SCHIZO BEYOND CURE.

    Dick is off his meds again!

    (you may say he's *always* off his meds but he's worse than usual here)

    Once in a great while he seems almost rational, but then you prod him a
    bit and he shows his true colors.

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  • From Laurence Clark Crossen@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Thu Sep 7 11:30:15 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    Really, what has been the contribution of GR to any conceivable field of human
    activities?

    Please, don't abuse of the "GPS myth". Anything, besides making richer technological corporations, publishing houses, academy and giving to privileged "relativistic scientists" a salary, privileges, travels, etc?

    Just name one or two REAL contributions of GR to modern life.



    -
    "Mei Xiaochun also provided that the invariability of the Lorentz transform does not exist in the motion equations
    of quantum mechanics and quantum field theory, as well as the calculation formula of transition probabilities,
    and the renormalization processes of higher-order perturbations of quantum field theory (Mei Xiaohcun, 2014).
    Since relativity does not exist in micro-physical processes, Einstein's principle of relativity was meaningless." - "A Re-understanding of the Zero Result of the Michelson-Morley
    Experiment" Xiaochun Mei & Canlun Yuan

    What does relativity apply to when it isn't necessary for the microscopic or the macroscopic?

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