• Forbidden Logic in Einstein's Schizophrenic World

    From Pentcho Valev@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 20 12:10:51 2023
    Premise 1: (frequency) = (speed of light)/(wavelength)

    Premise 2: "The moving observer sees a wave possessing the same wavelength...but a different frequency...to that seen by the stationary observer." http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/315/Waveshtml/node41.html

    Conclusion: The speed of light relative to the moving observer shifts proportionally to the frequency (nothing remains of Einstein's relativity).

    "Vo is the velocity of an observer moving towards the source. This velocity is independent of the motion of the source. Hence, the velocity of waves relative to the observer is c + Vo...The motion of an observer does not alter the wavelength. The
    increase in frequency is a result of the observer encountering more wavelengths in a given time." http://a-levelphysicstutor.com/wav-doppler.php

    "The Doppler effect is the shift in frequency of a wave that occurs when the wave source, or the detector of the wave, is moving. Applications of the Doppler effect range from medical tests using ultrasound to radar detectors and astronomy (with
    electromagnetic waves)...Moving Observer. Let's say you, the observer, now move toward the source with velocity Vo. You encounter more waves per unit time than you did before. Relative to you, the waves travel at a higher speed: V' = V+Vo. The frequency
    of the waves you detect is higher, and is given by: f' = V'/λ = (V+Vo)/λ." http://physics.bu.edu/~redner/211-sp06/class19/class19_doppler.html

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

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  • From Laurence Clark Crossen@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Sun Aug 20 20:09:19 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 12:10:53 PM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    Premise 1: (frequency) = (speed of light)/(wavelength)

    Premise 2: "The moving observer sees a wave possessing the same wavelength...but a different frequency...to that seen by the stationary observer." http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/315/Waveshtml/node41.html

    Conclusion: The speed of light relative to the moving observer shifts proportionally to the frequency (nothing remains of Einstein's relativity).

    "Vo is the velocity of an observer moving towards the source. This velocity is independent of the motion of the source. Hence, the velocity of waves relative to the observer is c + Vo...The motion of an observer does not alter the wavelength. The
    increase in frequency is a result of the observer encountering more wavelengths in a given time." http://a-levelphysicstutor.com/wav-doppler.php

    "The Doppler effect is the shift in frequency of a wave that occurs when the wave source, or the detector of the wave, is moving. Applications of the Doppler effect range from medical tests using ultrasound to radar detectors and astronomy (with
    electromagnetic waves)...Moving Observer. Let's say you, the observer, now move toward the source with velocity Vo. You encounter more waves per unit time than you did before. Relative to you, the waves travel at a higher speed: V' = V+Vo. The frequency
    of the waves you detect is higher, and is given by: f' = V'/λ = (V+Vo)/λ." http://physics.bu.edu/~redner/211-sp06/class19/class19_doppler.html

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev
    Then relativity makes the absurd ad hoc claim it is the wavelengths changing not the frequency because it wants to claim light is not subject to relative motion.

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  • From Laurence Clark Crossen@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Sun Aug 20 20:11:41 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 12:10:53 PM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    Premise 1: (frequency) = (speed of light)/(wavelength)

    Premise 2: "The moving observer sees a wave possessing the same wavelength...but a different frequency...to that seen by the stationary observer." http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/315/Waveshtml/node41.html

    Conclusion: The speed of light relative to the moving observer shifts proportionally to the frequency (nothing remains of Einstein's relativity).

    "Vo is the velocity of an observer moving towards the source. This velocity is independent of the motion of the source. Hence, the velocity of waves relative to the observer is c + Vo...The motion of an observer does not alter the wavelength. The
    increase in frequency is a result of the observer encountering more wavelengths in a given time." http://a-levelphysicstutor.com/wav-doppler.php

    "The Doppler effect is the shift in frequency of a wave that occurs when the wave source, or the detector of the wave, is moving. Applications of the Doppler effect range from medical tests using ultrasound to radar detectors and astronomy (with
    electromagnetic waves)...Moving Observer. Let's say you, the observer, now move toward the source with velocity Vo. You encounter more waves per unit time than you did before. Relative to you, the waves travel at a higher speed: V' = V+Vo. The frequency
    of the waves you detect is higher, and is given by: f' = V'/λ = (V+Vo)/λ." http://physics.bu.edu/~redner/211-sp06/class19/class19_doppler.html

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev
    For an analysis of this claim of the pseudoscience of relativity please see: Mathematical Conflicts in the Special Theory of Relativity, Third Edition by Radwan Kassir, chapter7: On the Test of Time Dilation Using the Relativistic Doppler Shift Equation.

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  • From Pentcho Valev@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 02:02:48 2023
    The Einstein Cult rejects conventional logic but this does not mean that there is no logic in Einstein's schizophrenic world. Here is the Einsteinian logic, mesmerizing and even paralysing:

    Premise 1: The laws of physics are the same in every inertial frame (principle of relativity).

    Premise 2: Einstein said that the speed of light is a law of physics.

    Conclusion: The speed of light is the same in every inertial frame.

    Leonard Susskind: "The principle of relativity is that the laws of physics are the same in every reference frame. That principle existed before Einstein. Einstein added one law of physics - the law of physics is that the speed of light is the speed of
    light, c. If you combine the two things together - that the laws of physics are the same in every reference frame, and that it's a law of physics that light moves with certain velocity, you come to the conclusion that light must move with the same
    velocity in every reference frame. Why? Because the principle of relativity says that the laws of physics are the same in every reference frame, and Einstein announced that it is a law of physics that light moves with certain velocity." https://youtu.be/
    toGH5BdgRZ4?t=626

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

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  • From Laurence Clark Crossen@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Mon Aug 21 20:30:05 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 2:02:51 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    The Einstein Cult rejects conventional logic but this does not mean that there is no logic in Einstein's schizophrenic world. Here is the Einsteinian logic, mesmerizing and even paralysing:

    Premise 1: The laws of physics are the same in every inertial frame (principle of relativity).

    Premise 2: Einstein said that the speed of light is a law of physics.

    Conclusion: The speed of light is the same in every inertial frame.

    Leonard Susskind: "The principle of relativity is that the laws of physics are the same in every reference frame. That principle existed before Einstein. Einstein added one law of physics - the law of physics is that the speed of light is the speed of
    light, c. If you combine the two things together - that the laws of physics are the same in every reference frame, and that it's a law of physics that light moves with certain velocity, you come to the conclusion that light must move with the same
    velocity in every reference frame. Why? Because the principle of relativity says that the laws of physics are the same in every reference frame, and Einstein announced that it is a law of physics that light moves with certain velocity." https://youtu.be/
    toGH5BdgRZ4?t=626

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev
    The funny thing is it is already obvious and unmistakable the laws of physics hold everywhere, so why does he assert that and then deny them for light?

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Laurence Clark Crossen on Tue Aug 22 12:53:32 2023
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 8:30:07 PM UTC-7, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    On Monday, August 21, 2023 at 2:02:51 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    The Einstein Cult rejects conventional logic but this does not mean that there is no logic in Einstein's schizophrenic world. Here is the Einsteinian logic, mesmerizing and even paralysing:

    Premise 1: The laws of physics are the same in every inertial frame (principle of relativity).

    Premise 2: Einstein said that the speed of light is a law of physics.

    Conclusion: The speed of light is the same in every inertial frame.

    Where has science measured an inertial frame to show that motion
    is real. What is the example of it measured on Earth?


    Leonard Susskind: "The principle of relativity is that the laws of physics are the same in every reference frame. That principle existed before Einstein. Einstein added one law of physics - the law of physics is that the speed of light is the speed
    of light, c. If you combine the two things together - that the laws of physics are the same in every reference frame, and that it's a law of physics that light moves with certain velocity, you come to the conclusion that light must move with the same
    velocity in every reference frame. Why? Because the principle of relativity says that the laws of physics are the same in every reference frame, and Einstein announced that it is a law of physics that light moves with certain velocity." https://youtu.be/
    toGH5BdgRZ4?t=626

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev
    The funny thing is it is already obvious and unmistakable the laws of physics hold everywhere, so why does he assert that and then deny them for light?

    I don't think calling Einstein schizophrenic is real. But he was a first of his own kind.

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