• Re: Promoting the "Cult" of Einstein

    From JanPB@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Sat Aug 19 21:01:18 2023
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:19:17 PM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
    RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
    TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.

    AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
    WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.

    The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
    pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?
    Heisenberg ignored the Aryan scientists,
    and went on teaching relativity and quantum mechanics anyway.
    (but without mentioning Einstein by name)
    Ignoring was no problem, they were all incompetents anyway.

    In consequence the 'Aryans' accused him of being 'A white Jew'.
    (someone who talks like a Jew even though he is not one racially)
    So he could not get an appointment as successor to Somerfelt.

    Heisenberg had recourse to Heinrich Himmler in person
    to be declared 'A good German', in order to be appointed as professor.

    Jan
    Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo.
    He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions by the ruling party about his private life.

    He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping with his "beloved" children.

    A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.

    No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.

    You make up stuff about everything and anything.

    --
    Jan

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to JanPB on Sat Aug 19 22:44:55 2023
    JanPB wrote:

    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:19:17 PM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
    RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
    TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.

    AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
    WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.

    The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
    pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?
    Heisenberg ignored the Aryan scientists,
    and went on teaching relativity and quantum mechanics anyway.
    (but without mentioning Einstein by name)
    Ignoring was no problem, they were all incompetents anyway.

    In consequence the 'Aryans' accused him of being 'A white Jew'.
    (someone who talks like a Jew even though he is not one racially)
    So he could not get an appointment as successor to Somerfelt.

    Heisenberg had recourse to Heinrich Himmler in person
    to be declared 'A good German', in order to be appointed as professor.

    Jan
    Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo.
    He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions by the ruling party about his private life.

    He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping with his "beloved" children.

    A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.

    No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.

    You make up stuff about everything and anything.

    --
    Jan

    It's not make up stuff, engineers invent stuff and bring about their devious ideas using...deceit. dats what an engineer does...
    he can not help himself.

    but using phrases like "make up stuff" is childess...talk...babble. googbie goobily. gaga.




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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to JanPB on Sun Aug 20 10:38:50 2023
    JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 6:19:17?PM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:
    RichD <r_dela...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On August 15, Richard Hertz wrote:
    RELATIVITY IS A CULT, A METAPHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS
    TRIED TO DESTROY THE CONCEPTS OF SPACE AND TIME.

    AN IMMORAL PSEUDOSCIENCE,
    WHICH HAS BEEN SEEKING, FOR A CENTURY, TO CONSOLIDATE JEWISH GRAB OF POWER IN EVERY SINGLE HUMAN ACTIVITY.

    The germans had a nuclear weapon project. How did Heisenberg
    pitch that, without resorting to relativity, a verboten jewish science?
    Heisenberg ignored the Aryan scientists,
    and went on teaching relativity and quantum mechanics anyway.
    (but without mentioning Einstein by name)
    Ignoring was no problem, they were all incompetents anyway.

    In consequence the 'Aryans' accused him of being 'A white Jew'.
    (someone who talks like a Jew even though he is not one racially)
    So he could not get an appointment as successor to Somerfelt.

    Heisenberg had recourse to Heinrich Himmler in person
    to be declared 'A good German', in order to be appointed as professor.

    Jan
    Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo. Hemarried in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions by the ruling party Heabout his private life.

    He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping
    with his "beloved" children.

    A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.

    No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always
    a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.

    You make up stuff about everything and anything.

    Yes, incredible, isn't it? He can't be trusted on anything at all.

    For the kiddies: Heisenberg married at age 36, in 1937.
    (RH has even the year wrong)
    His wife was 13 years younger.
    They had 7 children, over the next 12 years.
    Good going, for a 'homosexual'.

    Anyway, marrying late, to younger wives, was not unusual at all
    in the upper classes, all over the western world.
    (also in Hollywood, up to the sixties)

    Men were supposed to marry after they had established themselves
    in some secure position,

    Jan

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  • From Richard Hertz@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Sun Aug 20 16:46:16 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:38:53 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:

    Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo. He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions
    by the ruling party
    He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping with his "beloved" children.

    A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.

    No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.

    You make up stuff about everything and anything.
    Yes, incredible, isn't it? He can't be trusted on anything at all.

    For the kiddies: Heisenberg married at age 36, in 1937.
    (RH has even the year wrong)
    His wife was 13 years younger.
    They had 7 children, over the next 12 years. Good going, for a 'homosexual'.

    Anyway, marrying late, to younger wives, was not unusual at all
    in the upper classes, all over the western world. (also in Hollywood, up to the sixties)

    Men were supposed to marry after they had established themselves in some secure position,

    Jan


    As usual, you're a fucking ignorant, liar and deceiver. Heisenberg was protected by the cabal, as a "white jew".

    His mother saved his life by 1937, because she was acquainted with Himmler's mother. He was going to be CANCELLED.

    He was a fucking homo, and later a full time pedo. He MARRIED by fear about prosecutions on homos by the ruling party.

    https://www.notablebiographies.com/He-Ho/Heisenberg-Werner.html
    In 1927, at the age of twenty-six, he became professor of theoretical physics at the University of Leipzig.
    He received the Nobel Prize for physics in 1932. During this outbreak of academic activity, he married
    Elisabeth Schumacher. They eventually had seven children.

    He married in 1934, not in 1937. His mother saved his life, as she knew Himmler's mother, who asked his son to forgive the homo.



    Read this book, asshole:

    BEYOND UNCERTAINTY
    HEISENBERG, QUANTUM PHYSICS, AND THE BOMB
    DAVID C. CASSIDY
    2009. BELLEVUE LITERARY PRESS

    CHAPTER 3 The Gymnasium Years 38
    CHAPTER 4 The Battle of Munich 48
    CHAPTER 5 Finding His Path 59
    CHAPTER 6 Sommerfeld’s Institute 76
    ....
    CHAPTER 13 Reaching the Top 173
    CHAPTER 14 New Frontiers 187
    CHAPTER 15 Into the Abyss 205
    .......
    CHAPTER 19 The Lonely Years 257
    CHAPTER 20 A Faustian Bargain 268
    CHAPTER 21 One Who Could Not Leave 282
    CHAPTER 22 Warfare and Its Uses 296
    CHAPTER 23 A Copenhagen Visit 310
    CHAPTER 24 Ordering Reality 324
    ........

    Bohr was one of the two °step-fathers" for Heisenberg, being the other Max Born.
    Heisenberg cried in the arms of Bohr, due to his incapability of get any progress with matrix mechanics. Bohr guided him
    to propose his "Principle". Bohr was a CONFIDENT of Heisenberg secrets, aspect that the last tried to use to get information
    about US plans for the A bomb. They never talked again after 1941.

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Sun Aug 20 18:17:09 2023
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:46:19 PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:

    He married in 1934, not in 1937.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=werner+heisenberg+marriage&sca_esv=558631697&rlz=1C1JZAP_enUS1065US1065&sxsrf=AB5stBhJkwDFub1Ipu7Y69bvNK9MC5QGmg%3A1692580289184&ei=wbniZOH0CoSRur8P6-qy6Ac&ved=0ahUKEwih2Y_3yOyAAxWEiO4BHWu1DH0Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=werner+
    heisenberg+marriage&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgCIhp3ZXJuZXIgaGVpc2VuYmVyZyBtYXJyaWFnZTIFECEYoAFI_
    j5QoBxYwDdwAXgBkAEAmAGfAaABiQmqAQMxLji4AQPIAQD4AQHCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgIKEAAYigUYsAMYQ8ICDRAAGIoFGLADGEMYiwPCAhMQLhiKBRiwAxhDGIsDGJoDGKgDwgIREAAY5AIY1gQYsAMYiwPYAQHCAh8QLhiKBRjIAxiwAxhDGIsDGJgDGJoDGJsDGKgD2AECwgIcEC4YigUYyAMYsAMYQxiLAxiYAxioAxiaA9gBAsICGRAu
    GIoFGMgDGLADGEMYiwMYmgMYqAPYAQLCAgUQABiABMICBRAuGIAEwgIQEAAYgAQYFBiHAhixAxiDAcICBhAAGBYYHsICCBAAGIoFGIYD4gMEGAAgQYgGAZAGE7oGBggBEAEYCboGBggCEAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

    "In 1937 Heisenberg married Elisabeth Schumacher. They have seven children, and live in Munich."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg

    "In January 1937, Heisenberg met Elisabeth Schumacher (1914–1998) at a private music recital. Elisabeth was the daughter of a well-known Berlin economics professor, and her brother was the economist E. F. Schumacher, author of Small Is Beautiful.
    Heisenberg married her on 29 April [1937].

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Mon Aug 21 10:36:37 2023
    Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 4:46:19?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:

    He married in 1934, not in 1937.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=werner+heisenberg+marriage&sca_esv=5586316 97&rlz=1C1JZAP_enUS1065US1065&sxsrf=AB5stBhJkwDFub1Ipu7Y69bvNK9MC5QGmg%3A1 692580289184&ei=wbniZOH0CoSRur8P6-qy6Ac&ved=0ahUKEwih2Y_3yOyAAxWEiO4BHWu1D H0Q4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=werner+heisenberg+marriage&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAa AhgCIhp3ZXJuZXIgaGVpc2VuYmVyZyBtYXJyaWFnZTIFECEYoAFI_j5QoBxYwDdwAXgBkAEAmA GfAaABiQmqAQMxLji4AQPIAQD4AQHCAgoQABhHGNYEGLADwgIKEAAYigUYsAMYQ8ICDRAAGIoF GLADGEMYiwPCAhMQLhiKBRiwAxhDGIsDGJoDGKgDwgIREAAY5AIY1gQYsAMYiwPYAQHCAh8QLh iKBRjIAxiwAxhDGIsDGJgDGJoDGJsDGKgD2AECwgIcEC4YigUYyAMYsAMYQxiLAxiYAxioAxia A9gBAsICGRAuGIoFGMgDGLADGEMYiwMYmgMYqAPYAQLCAgUQABiABMICBRAuGIAEwgIQEAAYgA QYFBiHAhixAxiDAcICBhAAGBYYHsICCBAAGIoFGIYD4gMEGAAgQYgGAZAGE7oGBggBEAEYCboG BggCEAEYCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

    "In 1937 Heisenberg married Elisabeth Schumacher. They have seven
    children, and live in Munich."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg

    "In January 1937, Heisenberg met Elisabeth Schumacher (1914–1998) at a private music recital. Elisabeth was the daughter of a well-known Berlin economics professor, and her brother was the economist E. F. Schumacher, author of Small Is Beautiful. Heisenberg married her on 29 April [1937].

    Strange isn't it. RH really is completely crazy,
    in permanent denial of reality, and not to be trusted on anything.

    Here is the Heisenberg's wedding photograph, dated to 1937 of course. <https://www.themarginalian.org/2018/02/14/dear-li-werner-heisenberg-love-letters/>

    The letters they exchanged from 1937 onwards have been published. <https://www.residenzverlag.com/en/buch/my-dear-li>

    RH needs a bigger hole in the sand to hide his head in,

    Jan

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to Richard Hertz on Mon Aug 21 10:07:35 2023
    On 8/20/2023 7:46 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:38:53 AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:

    Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo. He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions
    by the ruling party
    He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping with his "beloved" children.

    A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE DARK. Eddington, by instance.

    No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.

    You make up stuff about everything and anything.
    Yes, incredible, isn't it? He can't be trusted on anything at all.

    For the kiddies: Heisenberg married at age 36, in 1937.
    (RH has even the year wrong)
    His wife was 13 years younger.
    They had 7 children, over the next 12 years. Good going, for a 'homosexual'. >>
    Anyway, marrying late, to younger wives, was not unusual at all
    in the upper classes, all over the western world. (also in Hollywood, up to the sixties)

    Men were supposed to marry after they had established themselves in some secure position,

    Jan


    As usual, you're a fucking ignorant, liar and deceiver. Heisenberg was protected by the cabal, as a "white jew".

    You really suck at the history of physicists. He was called a "white
    Jew" (an insult) by the Nazis because he wasn't supporting the Nazi
    cause, but wasn't actually Jewish.

    His mother saved his life by 1937, because she was acquainted with Himmler's mother. He was going to be CANCELLED.

    Yes going against the Nazi leadership was rather dangerous.

    He was a fucking homo, and later a full time pedo. He MARRIED by fear about prosecutions on homos by the ruling party.

    Ummm, they cranked out 7 kids in 12 years, he must have been banging his
    wife quite a bit. Not what I'd expect from a "homo" but you did get the "fucking" part correct.

    https://www.notablebiographies.com/He-Ho/Heisenberg-Werner.html
    In 1927, at the age of twenty-six, he became professor of theoretical physics at the University of Leipzig.
    He received the Nobel Prize for physics in 1932. During this outbreak of academic activity, he married
    Elisabeth Schumacher. They eventually had seven children.

    "Eventually"? Isn't this closer to a situation for Groucho Marx's cigar
    joke?

    He married in 1934, not in 1937. His mother saved his life, as she knew Himmler's mother, who asked his son to forgive the homo.

    April 1937. And great that his mother helped him for not going along
    with the Nazis.

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Volney on Mon Aug 21 17:50:39 2023
    Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 8/20/2023 7:46 PM, Richard Hertz wrote:
    On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 5:38:53?AM UTC-3, J. J. Lodder wrote:

    On Saturday, August 19, 2023 at 2:59:02?PM UTC-7, Richard Hertz wrote:

    Heisenberg was a homosexual all his life, since youth. Then, a pedo. >>>> He married in 1934 to avoid increasing suspicions by the ruling party >>>> He never dated a woman until he was about 31, when he stopped camping >>>>with his "beloved" children.

    A homo can't be trusted in anything by then, as they lived IN THE >>>>DARK. Eddington, by instance.

    No moral, a life of lies and cover up, no religion. Once a LIAR, >>>>always a LIAR, in EVERYTHING.

    You make up stuff about everything and anything.
    Yes, incredible, isn't it? He can't be trusted on anything at all.

    For the kiddies: Heisenberg married at age 36, in 1937.
    (RH has even the year wrong)
    His wife was 13 years younger.
    They had 7 children, over the next 12 years. Good going, for a >>'homosexual'.

    Anyway, marrying late, to younger wives, was not unusual at all in the
    upper classes, all over the western world. (also in Hollywood, up to
    the sixties)

    Men were supposed to marry after they had established themselves in
    some secure position,

    As usual, you're a fucking ignorant, liar and deceiver. Heisenberg was protected by the cabal, as a "white jew".

    You really suck at the history of physicists. He was called a "white
    Jew" (an insult) by the Nazis because he wasn't supporting the Nazi
    cause, but wasn't actually Jewish.

    Huh? Heisenberg not supporting the Nazi cause
    is a myth invented by Heisenberg, after the war was over.

    His mother saved his life by 1937, because she was acquainted with Himmler's mother. He was going to be CANCELLED.

    Yes going against the Nazi leadership was rather dangerous.

    But Heisenberg never did that.
    He even visited Niels Bohr wearing a nazi uniform.
    He tried to blackmail Bohr into collaborating
    with the German atom bomb project by remarking upon the fact
    that Bohr's mother was Jewish, and by suggesting
    that less than nice things might happen to her and his family.
    (and to Danish Jews in general) if Bohr wouldn't cooperate.
    Heisenberg sure was a really nice German.

    He was a fucking homo, and later a full time pedo. He MARRIED by fear
    about prosecutions on homos by the ruling party.

    Ummm, they cranked out 7 kids in 12 years, he must have been banging his
    wife quite a bit.

    What have you done? Now Hachel will come in to declare
    that it was really the milkman who did it, acting as a stand-in,
    because it is impossible that Heisenberg
    could have fathered those children.
    (being a pedo and a homo, remember?)

    Not what I'd expect from a "homo" but you did get the
    "fucking" part correct.

    Yes, it seems to have been a case of 'living happily ever after',
    (until H.'s death)

    Jan

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