[... complete nonsense]
So, the greater the gravitation, the slower the time, as the general relativity announced ?
Not so absolute! The greater the gravitational pull, the slower time isNo, you simply do not understand it (yet).
in some cases; the faster time is in others. General Relativity is a bit
like a coin toss, a game of chance.
The greater the gravitation, the faster the pendulum clock moves,
However, this also shows that gravitation is only an apparent force, just as general relativity postulates.
On 5/4/23 2:26 PM, Jack Liu wrote:
[... complete nonsense]
You seem to not understand that the entire earth is part of the
timekeeping mechanism of a pendulum clock. This makes your discussion completely useless -- In "The greater the gravitation, the faster the pendulum clock moves" you are simply changing the calibration of the
clock, which is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the "gravitational time
dilation" of GR.
On 5/4/23 2:26 PM, Jack Liu wrote:
[... complete nonsense]
You seem to not understand that the entire earth is part of the
timekeeping mechanism of a pendulum clock. This makes your discussion completely useless -- In "The greater the gravitation, the faster the pendulum clock moves" you are simply changing the calibration of the
clock, which is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the "gravitational time
dilation" of GR.
This raises the good physics question:
Is the time defined by atomic clocks the same time
as the time derived from tracking motions in the solar system?
This -is- of course a test of general relativity,
because it translates to the question how accurate
general relativity can predict the motions.
The answer so far is yes, to accuracies of about 10^-10 or 10^-11.
So, the greater the gravitation, the slower the time, as the general relativity announced ?whether it is Gravitational Time Dilation or gravitational.
Not so absolute! The greater the gravitational pull, the slower time is in some cases; the faster time is in others. General Relativity is a bit like a coin toss, a game of chance.
The greater the gravitation, the faster the pendulum clock moves, while the atomic clock moves slower. As far as the "speed of time passing" is concerned, gravitation has exactly two opposite effects, just as a coin has both sides. That is to say,
Time Contraction depends on which type of mechanical device they choose in advance.of atomic clocks; of gravitational time effects, one causes time dilation and the other causes time contraction. Both sets of theories are equally correct.
If you don't want to take chances, then, which one should you choose between pendulum clocks or atomic clocks?
Relativity resists absolute time and attaches importance to relative time, so all relative time is equal. Since relative time is equal, these two kinds of locks should also be equal. There is no reason to choose one type of clock to exclude another.
If a relative time is superior to another relative time, obviously, this is to create another absolute time in disguise, which is not what Relativity is willing to do.
Since two types of equal clocks lead to contradictory conclusions, then you have to accept two contradictory systems of relativity theory, corresponding to different types of clocks: the general relativity of pendulum clocks and the general relativity
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VfhOL63jvB2Dmn4JCRmOx6S8Dh9nRbdC/view Page 69
Jack Liu wrote:whether it is Gravitational Time Dilation or gravitational.
So, the greater the gravitation, the slower the time, as the general relativity announced ?
Not so absolute! The greater the gravitational pull, the slower time is in some cases; the faster time is in others. General Relativity is a bit like a coin toss, a game of chance.
The greater the gravitation, the faster the pendulum clock moves, while the atomic clock moves slower. As far as the "speed of time passing" is concerned, gravitation has exactly two opposite effects, just as a coin has both sides. That is to say,
relativity of atomic clocks; of gravitational time effects, one causes time dilation and the other causes time contraction. Both sets of theories are equally correct.Time Contraction depends on which type of mechanical device they choose in advance.
If you don't want to take chances, then, which one should you choose between pendulum clocks or atomic clocks?
Relativity resists absolute time and attaches importance to relative time, so all relative time is equal. Since relative time is equal, these two kinds of locks should also be equal. There is no reason to choose one type of clock to exclude another.
If a relative time is superior to another relative time, obviously, this is to create another absolute time in disguise, which is not what Relativity is willing to do.
Since two types of equal clocks lead to contradictory conclusions, then you have to accept two contradictory systems of relativity theory, corresponding to different types of clocks: the general relativity of pendulum clocks and the general
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VfhOL63jvB2Dmn4JCRmOx6S8Dh9nRbdC/view Page 69
It was a CucKoo-Clock where Albert Einstein
produced Relativity from...
(he wake up everyday and looked at the cuckoo clock out the window.)
(it drove him cuckoo)
let's re-create Einstein's Clock experiment.
He had two CucKoo-Clocks
and he noticed one CucKoo-Clock
CucKoo a little quicker
than the other
CucKoo-Clock.
In otherwords, the chicken
said CucKoo CucKoo CucKoo
before the other
CucKoo-Clock.
What caused the CucKoo-Clock
to CucKoo a minute later?
Your answer Liu Liu is gravitational pull????
So, you're sayin a CucKoo-Clock clock and a atomic clock show different times?
So, if you got a a CucKoo-Clock and a atomic clock, which clock 'shows' the correct time?? Einstein's clock or the bomb clock?
CucKoo, CucKoo CucKoo, CucKoo CucKoo, CucKoo CucKoo, CucKoo CucKoo, CucKoo CucKoo, CucKoo...
What CucKoo time is it? It's five past CucKoo.
My CucKoo is slow.
CucKoo, CucKoo CucKoo, CucKoooooooooooooooooooooooooh.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
the unchallengeable.
However, this also shows that gravitation is only an apparent force, just as
general relativity postulates.
The proper term is “_fictitious_ force” instead.
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