• The Expanding-Universe Lie Is Too Blatant

    From Pentcho Valev@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 20 06:11:34 2023
    "No matter which galaxy you are on, all other galaxies are moving away." https://aether.lbl.gov/www/einstein-bern-sb.pdf

    This is simply not true. Galaxies in a galactic cluster do not move away from one another. Generally, no two entities have ever been observed to move away from one another pushed by expansion. In a sane world, this would be an ironclad refutation of the
    expansion theory. In Einstein's schizophrenic world, cosmologists are free to tweak the theory so that it predicts absolute lack of expansion in spaces where expansion is observationally absent:

    Sabine Hossenfelder: "The solution of general relativity that describes the expanding universe is a solution on average; it is good only on very large distances. But the solutions that describe galaxies are different - and just don't expand. It's not
    that galaxies expand unnoticeably, they just don't. The full solution, then, is both stitched together: Expanding space between non-expanding galaxies...It is only somewhere beyond the scales of galaxy clusters that expansion takes over." https://www.
    forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/07/28/most-things-dont-actually-expand-in-an-expanding-universe/

    "Space DOES NOT Expand Everywhere...Is the space inside, say, a galaxy growing but overcome by the gravitational attraction between the stars? The answer is no. Space within any gravitationally bound system is unaffected by the surrounding expansion."
    https://youtu.be/bUHZ2k9DYHY?t=356

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

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  • From Ross Finlayson@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Thu Apr 20 08:30:20 2023
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:11:36 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    "No matter which galaxy you are on, all other galaxies are moving away." https://aether.lbl.gov/www/einstein-bern-sb.pdf

    This is simply not true. Galaxies in a galactic cluster do not move away from one another. Generally, no two entities have ever been observed to move away from one another pushed by expansion. In a sane world, this would be an ironclad refutation of
    the expansion theory. In Einstein's schizophrenic world, cosmologists are free to tweak the theory so that it predicts absolute lack of expansion in spaces where expansion is observationally absent:

    Sabine Hossenfelder: "The solution of general relativity that describes the expanding universe is a solution on average; it is good only on very large distances. But the solutions that describe galaxies are different - and just don't expand. It's not
    that galaxies expand unnoticeably, they just don't. The full solution, then, is both stitched together: Expanding space between non-expanding galaxies...It is only somewhere beyond the scales of galaxy clusters that expansion takes over." https://www.
    forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/07/28/most-things-dont-actually-expand-in-an-expanding-universe/

    "Space DOES NOT Expand Everywhere...Is the space inside, say, a galaxy growing but overcome by the gravitational attraction between the stars? The answer is no. Space within any gravitationally bound system is unaffected by the surrounding expansion."
    https://youtu.be/bUHZ2k9DYHY?t=356

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    The universe was found pretty much flat, so, "cosmological constant is zero", it's "Einstein's _great_ blunder" as he called it, adding the term of the cosmological
    constant to the gravitational field equations.

    Then, "cosmological constant is is positive and finite, things must expand", it's, discarded, and, inflationary theory can go stuff it.

    The, "cosmological constant is an infinitesimal, and, is a non-linear term, and, that's the way it is", both mathematics and physics are wondering about it.

    It's a very important contribution of Einstein's to the Gravitational Field Equations,
    where of course the geodesy is always to be evaluated instantaneously, that things do have whatever their apparent velocity is, with respect to that the maximum strength vector of the field that's gravity, of course always points to the _source_ the massy body, not to the image, however delayed, what propagates at light speed.

    I.e., gravity's changes are instantaneous, and, when a rocket lands on Mars, however small the effect, that change in Mars' position, instantly as if the geodesy's changes were synchronized, adjusts every force vector, at once, everywhere.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Thu Apr 20 15:36:52 2023
    The universe is not expanding..the universe always existed...no
    beginning, no end.

    It is the Space that is expanding....and everything in it.

    The big bang was the expansion of space, not the expansion of the
    universe.

    i thought everybody knew dis already?

    wat gives?


    cutting classes?




    Pentcho Valev wrote:

    "No matter which galaxy you are on, all other galaxies are moving away." https://aether.lbl.gov/www/einstein-bern-sb.pdf

    This is simply not true. Galaxies in a galactic cluster do not move away from one another. Generally, no two entities have ever been observed to move away from one another pushed by expansion. In a sane world, this would be an ironclad refutation of
    the expansion theory. In Einstein's schizophrenic world, cosmologists are free to tweak the theory so that it predicts absolute lack of expansion in spaces where expansion is observationally absent:

    Sabine Hossenfelder: "The solution of general relativity that describes the expanding universe is a solution on average; it is good only on very large distances. But the solutions that describe galaxies are different - and just don't expand. It's not
    that galaxies expand unnoticeably, they just don't. The full solution, then, is both stitched together: Expanding space between non-expanding galaxies...It is only somewhere beyond the scales of galaxy clusters that expansion takes over."

    "Space DOES NOT Expand Everywhere...Is the space inside, say, a galaxy growing but overcome by the gravitational attraction between the stars? The answer is no. Space within any gravitationally bound system is unaffected by the surrounding expansion."

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

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    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Thu Apr 20 20:38:44 2023
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:11:36 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    "No matter which galaxy you are on, all other galaxies are moving away." https://aether.lbl.gov/www/einstein-bern-sb.pdf

    This is simply not true. Galaxies in a galactic cluster do not move away from one another. Generally, no two entities have ever been observed to move away from one another pushed by expansion. In a sane world, this would be an ironclad refutation of
    the expansion theory. In Einstein's schizophrenic world, cosmologists are free to tweak the theory so that it predicts absolute lack of expansion in spaces where expansion is observationally absent:

    Sabine Hossenfelder: "The solution of general relativity that describes the expanding universe is a solution on average; it is good only on very large distances. But the solutions that describe galaxies are different - and just don't expand. It's not
    that galaxies expand unnoticeably, they just don't. The full solution, then, is both stitched together: Expanding space between non-expanding galaxies...It is only somewhere beyond the scales of galaxy clusters that expansion takes over." https://www.
    forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/07/28/most-things-dont-actually-expand-in-an-expanding-universe/

    "Space DOES NOT Expand Everywhere...Is the space inside, say, a galaxy growing but overcome by the gravitational attraction between the stars? The answer is no. Space within any gravitationally bound system is unaffected by the surrounding expansion."
    https://youtu.be/bUHZ2k9DYHY?t=356

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    The galaxies got to where they are in time after the Big Bang. Because the universe is expanding.
    What about gravity? If the universe is not expanding it would be falling back on itself.
    The measurements are right. Distant galaxies got where they are because of the dimensions of the universe have expanded.
    If the universe is infinite then why are the stars as young as they are?
    No. The universe is finite expanding..

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Ross Finlayson on Thu Apr 20 21:07:42 2023
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 8:30:22 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:11:36 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    "No matter which galaxy you are on, all other galaxies are moving away." https://aether.lbl.gov/www/einstein-bern-sb.pdf

    This is simply not true. Galaxies in a galactic cluster do not move away from one another. Generally, no two entities have ever been observed to move away from one another pushed by expansion. In a sane world, this would be an ironclad refutation of
    the expansion theory. In Einstein's schizophrenic world, cosmologists are free to tweak the theory so that it predicts absolute lack of expansion in spaces where expansion is observationally absent:

    Sabine Hossenfelder: "The solution of general relativity that describes the expanding universe is a solution on average; it is good only on very large distances. But the solutions that describe galaxies are different - and just don't expand. It's not
    that galaxies expand unnoticeably, they just don't. The full solution, then, is both stitched together: Expanding space between non-expanding galaxies...It is only somewhere beyond the scales of galaxy clusters that expansion takes over." https://www.
    forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/07/28/most-things-dont-actually-expand-in-an-expanding-universe/

    "Space DOES NOT Expand Everywhere...Is the space inside, say, a galaxy growing but overcome by the gravitational attraction between the stars? The answer is no. Space within any gravitationally bound system is unaffected by the surrounding expansion."
    https://youtu.be/bUHZ2k9DYHY?t=356

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev
    The universe was found pretty much flat, so, "cosmological constant is zero",
    How was it measured? How do we measure flat?
    it's "Einstein's _great_ blunder" as he called it, adding the term of the cosmological
    constant to the gravitational field equations.

    Then, "cosmological constant is is positive and finite, things must expand", it's, discarded, and, inflationary theory can go stuff it.
    The universe is contained in a hypersphere boundary.
    The hypersphere and its universe inflated while empty.
    Dark energy is not real. Expansion is the hypersphere's
    job.


    The, "cosmological constant is an infinitesimal, and, is a non-linear term, and, that's the way it is", both mathematics and physics are wondering about it.
    There is no constant. The hypersphere is expanding faster.
    The universe will always get bigger faster.

    It's a very important contribution of Einstein's to the Gravitational Field Equations,
    where of course the geodesy is always to be evaluated instantaneously, that things do have whatever their apparent velocity is, with respect to that the maximum strength vector of the field that's gravity, of course always points to the _source_ the massy body, not to the image, however delayed, what propagates at light speed.

    I.e., gravity's changes are instantaneous, and, when a rocket lands on Mars, however small the effect, that change in Mars' position, instantly as if the geodesy's changes were synchronized, adjusts every force vector, at once, everywhere.
    Nonsense. That doesn't happen. Look at a comet.
    Where a comet mass comes apart by heat it doesn't change its
    orbit. Don't expect anything to change.

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Trejo Di caprio on Fri Apr 21 10:10:13 2023
    On Friday, April 21, 2023 at 5:22:47 AM UTC-7, Trejo Di caprio wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    The galaxies got to where they are in time after the Big Bang. Because
    the universe is expanding.
    What about gravity? If the universe is not expanding it would be falling back on itself.

    The most distant galaxies got to where they are after the Big Bang
    in billions of years of time.

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  • From Ross Finlayson@21:1/5 to Ross Finlayson on Fri Apr 21 14:14:27 2023
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 8:30:22 AM UTC-7, Ross Finlayson wrote:
    On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 6:11:36 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    "No matter which galaxy you are on, all other galaxies are moving away." https://aether.lbl.gov/www/einstein-bern-sb.pdf

    This is simply not true. Galaxies in a galactic cluster do not move away from one another. Generally, no two entities have ever been observed to move away from one another pushed by expansion. In a sane world, this would be an ironclad refutation of
    the expansion theory. In Einstein's schizophrenic world, cosmologists are free to tweak the theory so that it predicts absolute lack of expansion in spaces where expansion is observationally absent:

    Sabine Hossenfelder: "The solution of general relativity that describes the expanding universe is a solution on average; it is good only on very large distances. But the solutions that describe galaxies are different - and just don't expand. It's not
    that galaxies expand unnoticeably, they just don't. The full solution, then, is both stitched together: Expanding space between non-expanding galaxies...It is only somewhere beyond the scales of galaxy clusters that expansion takes over." https://www.
    forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/07/28/most-things-dont-actually-expand-in-an-expanding-universe/

    "Space DOES NOT Expand Everywhere...Is the space inside, say, a galaxy growing but overcome by the gravitational attraction between the stars? The answer is no. Space within any gravitationally bound system is unaffected by the surrounding expansion."
    https://youtu.be/bUHZ2k9DYHY?t=356

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev
    The universe was found pretty much flat, so, "cosmological constant is zero",
    it's "Einstein's _great_ blunder" as he called it, adding the term of the cosmological
    constant to the gravitational field equations.

    Then, "cosmological constant is is positive and finite, things must expand", it's, discarded, and, inflationary theory can go stuff it.

    The, "cosmological constant is an infinitesimal, and, is a non-linear term, and, that's the way it is", both mathematics and physics are wondering about it.

    It's a very important contribution of Einstein's to the Gravitational Field Equations,
    where of course the geodesy is always to be evaluated instantaneously, that things do have whatever their apparent velocity is, with respect to that the maximum strength vector of the field that's gravity, of course always points to the _source_ the massy body, not to the image, however delayed, what propagates at light speed.

    I.e., gravity's changes are instantaneous, and, when a rocket lands on Mars, however small the effect, that change in Mars' position, instantly as if the geodesy's changes were synchronized, adjusts every force vector, at once, everywhere.


    Reading some of this Einstein's "In My Later Years", he does help explain
    that his relativity is a mathematical thing, of course, and also about the non-linearity after the initial terms for E = mc^2, also about that the
    total field and the field theory is an own thing.

    From what I've read, Einstein was just going to leave the cosmological constant
    out, but, it made inflationary concerns real easy, and, you know, fit, and he did leave out whether it's non-zero, and about its linearity or lack thereof, in terms.

    So, it's pretty great.

    The mass-energy equivalence is most apparent in the rotational.

    The mass-energy equivalence and cosmological constant are two of
    Einstein's greats, and, yes Einstein puts SR first for simple people
    and it's special, but in his field he puts GR first.

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  • From Pentcho Valev@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 22 10:35:22 2023
    Consider two galactic clusters relatively close to one another. The light coming from them is redshifted - cosmologists explain that this is because the expansion of space pushes the clusters away from us. But then the expansion must push the clusters
    away from one another, and the distance between them must increase, no? Observations have not confirmed this implication, so cosmologists should further tweak their theory: Expansion only occurs radially from the center of the Earth, it is absent in
    other directions, and that's it!

    https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2198aa663d490ad9e32c87a9771ec5f4.webp

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Sat Apr 22 10:46:55 2023
    On Saturday, April 22, 2023 at 10:35:23 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    Consider two galactic clusters relatively close to one another. The light coming from them is redshifted - cosmologists explain that this is because the expansion of space pushes the clusters away from us. But then the expansion must push the clusters
    away from one another, and the distance between them must increase, no? Observations have not confirmed this implication, so cosmologists should further tweak their theory: Expansion only occurs radially from the center of the Earth, it is absent in
    other directions, and that's it!

    https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2198aa663d490ad9e32c87a9771ec5f4.webp

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    How did the galaxies get to their distances without expansion?
    The universe got to its current size by expanding...
    If the universe was always this big how are the
    stars young?


    Mitchell Raemsch

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