• Re: What has stopped rotating?

    From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Nov 26 13:30:10 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/25/2023 3:31 PM, Baldemar Baburkin wrote:

    Piss off Hanson.

    where did you get the idea dat dis guy name is Hanson?




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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Nov 26 15:43:15 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 11/26/2023 3:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/25/2023 3:31 PM, Baldemar Baburkin wrote:

    Piss off Hanson.

    where did you get the idea dat dis guy name is Hanson?






    By detecting the same character in him. And some of the same idiotic terminologies. He thinks he's smart.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Nov 26 14:09:35 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 3:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/25/2023 3:31 PM, Baldemar Baburkin wrote:

    Piss off Hanson.

    where did you get the idea dat dis guy name is Hanson?





    By detecting the same character in him. And some of the same idiotic terminologies. He thinks he's smart.

    are you sayin that there is someone posting on usenet with the
    handle...Hanson?


    --
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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Nov 26 19:27:50 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 11/26/2023 4:09 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 3:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/25/2023 3:31 PM, Baldemar Baburkin wrote:

    Piss off Hanson.

    where did you get the idea dat dis guy name is Hanson?





    By detecting the same character in him. And some of the same idiotic
    terminologies. He thinks he's smart.

    are you sayin that there is someone posting on usenet with the handle...Hanson?




    You don't remember the garbage he was posting?

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Paul B. Andersen on Sat Dec 2 11:00:38 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Den 02.12.2023 03:34, skrev patdolan:
    On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 4:20:14 AM UTC-8, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    Den 30.11.2023 21:12, skrev patdolan:
    On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 at 22:51:11 UTC+1, Paul B. Andersen wrote:
    Den 28.11.2023 20:53, skrev patdolan:
    On Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 2:38:09 AM UTC-8, Paul B. Andersen wrote:

    Second challenge:
    A long heavy pendulum is hanging under the ISS.
    A stable situation is that the pendulum is always
    pointing towards the centre of the Earth.

    Which forces are acting on the pendulum mass?


    Neither the sun's gravitational field nor the earth's gravitational field exerts a force on the pendulum you discribe. Because the pendulum is in free fall around both. Only Mach's mysterious trans-universe space-brace field acts on the pendulum
    and the ISS gyroscope.

    According to Newton:

    The gravitational force on any object with mass m is
    always GMm/r² pointing towards the centre of the Earth.
    If the object is free falling, the gravitational
    (coordinate) acceleration will be GM/r², pointing
    towards the centre of the Earth.

    The CG of ISS + pendulum is moving in circular orbit,
    which means that the acceleration is perpendicular to
    the velocity, so the acceleration ω²⋅r₀ is the centripetal
    acceleration which make the ISS move in circular orbit.
    The centripetal acceleration is equal to the gravitational
    acceleration:
    ω²⋅r₀ = GM/r₀² (1)
    where ω is the angular velocity off the ISS, and r₀ is the
    distance from the CG of ISS+pendulum to the centre of the Earth.

    Equation (1) say that an object with angular velocity ω
    must have a distance from the centre of the Earth:
    r₀ = ∛(GM/ω²) to make the centripetal acceleration equal
    to the gravitational acceleration.

    The pendulum mass m is not free falling because:

    Its distance to the centre of the Earth is:
    r₁ = r₀-L where L is the length of the pendulum.
    So r₁ < r₀, but the angular velocity of m is the same ω,
    and r₁ < ∛(GM/ω²), which means that:
    ω²⋅r₁ < GM/r₁² (2)
    The centripetal acceleration is smaller than the gravitational
    acceleration, so the force the string is acting on
    the pendulum mass is F₁ = m⋅(GM/r₁²-ω²⋅r₁)

    ---

    An interesting point is that you could have a pendulum
    on the other side of the ISS, pointing outwards from the
    centre of the Earth.
    The force the string is acting on the mass m is:
    F₂ = m⋅(ω²⋅r₂-GM/r₂²)

    F₁ and F₂ are called tidal forces.
    (It's a tidal bulge on both sides of the Earth)>> No comment, Pat?


    You claimed that there were no forces on the pendulum.
    I showed you that you could have a pendulum on both
    sides of the ISS, and the pendulum strings will exert
    forces on the pendulum masses, acting towards the ISS.

    And GR predicts the same!

    Do you realise that you were wrong, but won't admit it,
    so you ignore my post, hoping that nobody will notice
    your failure.

    --
    Paul

    https://paulba.no/


    Paul, I am happy to comment on the ISS pendulum problem. But first I would like to exploit my leverage over you in this matter. I will comment in a most shocking manner if you first agree to

    1) State to this forum that the source of the gyroscopic counter torque which exactly opposes any torque placed on a gyroscope to keep it from falling over, as it does when a torque is applied to a g-scope when it is not spinning, is a complete
    scientific mystery and has never been derived from first principles.

    and

    2) You stipulate that no matter what he types in this forum, Tom Roberts also does not understand the gyroscopic counter-torque.

    Do these two things and I will comment on your pendulum.

    I accept your capitulation.

    You make no attempt to defend your claim that no forces were
    acting on the pendulum mass. Instead of admitting that you
    were wrong, you are trying to escape in a most ridiculous way. :-D

    Case closed.


    Since our moon revolves around our sun...our moon is in fact a planet.
    You can call it a dwarf planet and even a satelitte planet. But, it is
    still a planet by defintion of a planet!

    There are more planet moons than there are any other type of planets in
    our solar system.


    i heard nasa is going to land on planet moon next year, is that true?






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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 2 12:17:41 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 4:09 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 3:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/25/2023 3:31 PM, Baldemar Baburkin wrote:

    Piss off Hanson.

    where did you get the idea dat dis guy name is Hanson?





    By detecting the same character in him. And some of the same idiotic
    terminologies. He thinks he's smart.

    are you sayin that there is someone posting on usenet with the handle...Hanson?



    You don't remember the garbage he was posting?



    Looking for garbage in these newsgroups is like searching for a needle
    in a haystack of needles.


    The French guy????


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 2 19:59:50 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/2/2023 2:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 4:09 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 3:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/25/2023 3:31 PM, Baldemar Baburkin wrote:

    Piss off Hanson.

    where did you get the idea dat dis guy name is Hanson?





    By detecting the same character in him. And some of the same idiotic >>>> terminologies. He thinks he's smart.

    are you sayin that there is someone posting on usenet with the
    handle...Hanson?



    You don't remember the garbage he was posting?



    Looking for garbage in these newsgroups is like searching for a needle
    in a haystack of needles.


    The French guy????



    He posted under the nickname "Hanson." All garbage stuff, just to troll others. Did it for at least two decades!

    isn't he dead?


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 2 20:02:54 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/2/2023 1:00 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    i heard nasa is going to land on planet moon next year, is that true?




    With last of the pre-Reagan scientists dying off, NASA fears the
    know-how will get lost in the hands of post-Reagan "engineers". I don't
    see a single other reason for doing that nonsense stuff all over again.

    maybe they are investigating what is that hollow sound?





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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sat Dec 2 22:01:40 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/2/2023 9:59 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/2/2023 2:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 4:09 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 3:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/25/2023 3:31 PM, Baldemar Baburkin wrote:

    Piss off Hanson.

    where did you get the idea dat dis guy name is Hanson?





    By detecting the same character in him. And some of the same idiotic >>>>>> terminologies. He thinks he's smart.

    are you sayin that there is someone posting on usenet with the
    handle...Hanson?



    You don't remember the garbage he was posting?



    Looking for garbage in these newsgroups is like searching for a needle >>> in a haystack of needles.


    The French guy????



    He posted under the nickname "Hanson." All garbage stuff, just to troll
    others. Did it for at least two decades!

    isn't he dead?



    I hope he was, but I'm afraid not. Pests are never welcome. So he at
    last learned something (took 20 years for him) and stopped being a
    Hanson anymore, but reappeared now in this role that you see. Making
    sure everybody gets his messages by automatically changing his nickname,
    and at the same time giving the bullshit he posts as legitimate reasons
    to be around and post. In other words, he's still a pest.

    I'm sorry, but I think you are mistaken. That is not Hanson M.O.


    Hanson would never 'automatically changing his nickname', Hanson is not
    a Coward.









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    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Dec 3 14:21:04 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/3/2023 12:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/2/2023 9:59 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/2/2023 2:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 4:09 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 3:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/25/2023 3:31 PM, Baldemar Baburkin wrote:

    Piss off Hanson.

    where did you get the idea dat dis guy name is Hanson?





    By detecting the same character in him. And some of the same idiotic >>>>>>>> terminologies. He thinks he's smart.

    are you sayin that there is someone posting on usenet with the >>>>>>> handle...Hanson?



    You don't remember the garbage he was posting?



    Looking for garbage in these newsgroups is like searching for a needle >>>>> in a haystack of needles.


    The French guy????



    He posted under the nickname "Hanson." All garbage stuff, just to troll >>>> others. Did it for at least two decades!

    isn't he dead?



    I hope he was, but I'm afraid not. Pests are never welcome. So he at
    last learned something (took 20 years for him) and stopped being a
    Hanson anymore, but reappeared now in this role that you see. Making
    sure everybody gets his messages by automatically changing his nickname, >> and at the same time giving the bullshit he posts as legitimate reasons
    to be around and post. In other words, he's still a pest.

    I'm sorry, but I think you are mistaken. That is not Hanson M.O.


    Hanson would never 'automatically changing his nickname', Hanson is not
    a Coward.




    He doesn't change his nicknames for the purpose of staying hidden, he
    changes them to escape the kill-files. He wants his sick menace to reach everyone in the newsgroups that he posts. The guy's Hanson :) The
    "HAHAHAHA" guy. Loser then, loser now.

    Not only that the poster doesn't have the same MO, he doesn't have the
    same fingerprint, style, personality...
    ...where is the "HAHAHAHA"?





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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Physfitfreak on Sun Dec 3 21:03:55 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/3/2023 4:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:


    ...where is the "HAHAHAHA"?


    You don't know where the HAHAHAHA is?

    Check Vulva's vulva; you'll find a folded piece of paper stuck inside.
    You'll pull it out. You'll get your eyeglasses sit tight, then you'll
    unfold it and read the following script on it:

    " - Go to Göbekli Tepe, Turkey.
    - Go to the rainwater harvesting system built by those neolithic men
    - Urinate into only the first such grooves carved into stone
    - Follow it, see where your urine moving through the grove stops
    - You'll see a hole there in the stone, about your finger's diameter
    - Get one of your eyes close to its opening and try seeing inside
    - Nothing seen? Stick your middle finger of your left hand inside
    - Nothing felt? Put your ear on the opening
    - You'll hear, "ZABANG!" as if someone farted
    - Then you'll hear, "HAHAHAHA!"

    - My name is Alan Folmsbee "

    And that's where the HAHAHAHA is.

    Fold the paper back and put it inside the vulva of Vulva. And come back
    to sci.physics. Well done.

    You're barking up the wrong tree...

    --
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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Mon Dec 4 14:40:15 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 12/3/2023 5:21 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/3/2023 12:01 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/2/2023 9:59 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 12/2/2023 2:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 4:09 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/26/2023 3:30 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Physfitfreak wrote:

    On 11/25/2023 3:31 PM, Baldemar Baburkin wrote:

    Piss off Hanson.

    where did you get the idea dat dis guy name is Hanson?





    By detecting the same character in him. And some of the same idiotic >>>>>>>>>> terminologies. He thinks he's smart.

    are you sayin that there is someone posting on usenet with the >>>>>>>>> handle...Hanson?



    You don't remember the garbage he was posting?



    Looking for garbage in these newsgroups is like searching for a needle >>>>>>> in a haystack of needles.


    The French guy????



    He posted under the nickname "Hanson." All garbage stuff, just to troll >>>>>> others. Did it for at least two decades!

    isn't he dead?



    I hope he was, but I'm afraid not. Pests are never welcome. So he at
    last learned something (took 20 years for him) and stopped being a
    Hanson anymore, but reappeared now in this role that you see. Making
    sure everybody gets his messages by automatically changing his nickname, >>>> and at the same time giving the bullshit he posts as legitimate reasons >>>> to be around and post. In other words, he's still a pest.

    I'm sorry, but I think you are mistaken. That is not Hanson M.O.


    Hanson would never 'automatically changing his nickname', Hanson is not
    a Coward.




    He doesn't change his nicknames for the purpose of staying hidden, he
    changes them to escape the kill-files. He wants his sick menace to reach
    everyone in the newsgroups that he posts. The guy's Hanson :) The
    "HAHAHAHA" guy. Loser then, loser now.

    Not only that the poster doesn't have the same MO, he doesn't have the
    same fingerprint, style, personality...
    ...where is the "HAHAHAHA"?

    The nymshifter troll isn't Hanson. The nymshifter is a russian agent/apologist/propagandist, and has been posting here for at least a
    decade. Hanson was just a kook who stalked Bert and had a recognizable
    posting style. The nymshifter has been posting at the same time as the
    real Hanson, too, before Hanson left. The nymshifter tries to cause
    trouble by posting disinformation, about the Trump election, Covid, the
    Jan 6 riot, Covid again, and I knew nazified 卐ru⚡︎⚡︎ia卐 was going to
    attack Ukraine since it switched to anti-Ukraine propaganda a month or
    two before Feb 24 2022 and it has been posting 卐ru⚡︎⚡︎ian卐 propaganda
    since.

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