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    From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 12 17:24:04 2023
    AP's 270th book of science-- debunking Snowball Earth exaggeration-- PBS's NOVA: Ancient Earth: Frozen "How did life survive on a planet covered in ice from pole to pole?"
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    Oct 11, 2023, 10:01:48 PM (21 hours ago)



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    Exaggeration in science is a terrible mistake and ruins science. We must always guard against it-- exaggeration.

    NOVA's show of a Snowball Earth. AP does not deny we had periodic ice ages, but this Snowball Earth goes to extreme exaggeration.

    The missing data-point in this geology-biology review of Snowball Earth is the fact that the Moon was not present until about 60 million years ago and so, before 60 million years, one side of Earth was in perpetual sunlight, the side that had the
    continents -- Rodina.

    While the other side of Earth was in perpetual darkness leading to frozen over oceans and some land masses.

    On the side of Earth in perpetual Sunshine there was no Snowball, and life flourished. Flourished so much that they built up the oxygen rich atmosphere.

    Another fault of this program is the evidence seems to be hand picked from Iceland. Iceland is not "the whole Earth".

    Another flaw of logic which I am beginning to increasingly despise, is that many weak scientists are using modern day CO2 buildup to use that to explain past events. Whereas the fossil fuel burning by humans is a contributing factor, the main driver of
    Global Warming is the Sun is increasing in yearly solar radiation -- it was 0.005% yearly increase in the past decade.

    I hate it when weak in logical mind scientists impose a modern day concept of CO2, juxtapose that into the past.

    This NOVA show has to be totally redone, for it only spreads falsehoods not science.

    P.S. AP accepts the fact of Ice Ages, but not Ice Ages so blown out of proportion. We had a Ice Age in recent geological time.

    AP, King of Science
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    5:06 PM (2 hours ago)



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    Alright, I have my Marshak, Essentials of Geology, 3rd edition, 2009, pages 303,304,305.

    If we study Rodina and then Pannotia in their breakup we can see that parts of each were in the All Darkness half of Earth, while the other half in All Sunlight part of Earth.

    For the Earth had ___no Moon__ until about 66 to 60 million years ago, and 1/2 side of Earth was constant sunlight while the other 1/2 of Earth constant darkness and thus frozen, frozen oceans if it were all water.

    The Snowball Earth never surpassed 1/2 frozen, for the side of Earth in constant Sunlight would have been warm.

    The fools and idiots of geology who **assume** Earth was with a moon all the time, and that Earth rotated and revolved with 4 seasons are really stupid idiot fools of science in harboring that grotesque assumption.

    The glacial boulders and till found on continents for Rodinia and onwards were land masses that moved into the dark cold 1/2 side of Earth. But once they were within the Sunlite 1/2 of Earth they were warm and drenched in sunlight year round, every day,
    and no night.

    And this makes sense logically, in that the life on Earth had to build up the oxygen atmosphere. You cannot have the Cambrian explosion of life and have a Snowball Earth.

    It was never expected that geologists take formal logic in college before awarded a degree, and it shows in their silly ideas and theories.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 13 00:38:57 2023
    I do not recall if I fully explained why a planet with a sizeable satellite or satellite system cause the planet to not have one side always facing the Sun. Mercury has no satellite and thus one side always faces the Sun. Venus has no satellite, hence
    one side always faces the Sun. That is to say its revolution is almost the same as its rotation 224 days, 243 days. For Mercury has revolution 87 days and rotation 58 days.

    Many of the satellites of planets are gravitationally locked in orbit where the day of rotation equals the revolution and where 1/2 face is always staring at the planet.

    If not for the Moon near Earth, 1/2 of Earth would be in constant Sunlight and the other 1/2 in constant darkness, giving rise to a Snowball Earth where 1/2 is covered in ice.

    Physics explains gravitational locking. And what gives Earth its 4 seasons is because the Moon broke the gravity lock giving rise to a 1 day rotation and a 365 day revolution. Of course, the angle of sun radiation in winter is cold winter.

    Looking at the map of Rodinia compared to the continents in Cambrian. The continents were bunched together at the South Pole and we can assume that the South Pole was all Sunshine and no darkness no nights, while the map of Rodinia shows the continents
    split up and only India and Kalahari near the south pole and many of the continents on the always dark side of Earth-- naturally where water froze into ice sheets.

    Now I wonder if these boulders and glacial tills found for Snowball Earth are found in India and Kalahari?

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 14 00:33:06 2023
    I am trying to remember a TV program long time ago, showing geologists near a steep cliff near the ocean. I believe it was in California. Anyway the attention was focused on glacial till, rounded boulders that were the signs of an Ice Age and what is
    called Snowball Earth.

    Britannica says geobiologist Kirschvink proposed this Snowball Earth. His evidence comes from Kalahari Desert manganese ore.

    Well, looking at the pictures in Marshak textbook page 304, the Kalahari was in the always dark with no sunshine side of Earth.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 15 01:21:44 2023
    I am still looking for the images and pictures of someone standing near a cliff and pointing out these glacial boulders and making the case for Snowball Earth. I may never find it.

    I am reading astronomy dot com with Paul Hoffman and others in Svalbard, Norway and pointing out glacial boulders in amoungst carbonate rock layers. Carbonates are formed in warm waters while the glacial boulders were pushed into these warm water
    sediments.

    And looking at Marshak's Essential of Geology of Rodinia supercontinent for Norway and it shows it at the very edge of the face of Earth that was in constant yearround sunlight, same as Kalahari only opposite one another.

    So in other words, AP explains the Snowball Earth as 1/2 of Earth was a snowball, total ice, while the side of Earth staring directly at the Sun all day, all year round for billions of years would be warm waters and land all the time.

    So when Rodinia broke up and parts started to drift in the perpetual darkness of 1/2 of Earth, naturally those land masses would have a ice covering, explaining how glacial boulders mixed in with carbonate sediments.

    So it is difficult for geologists and even most physicists to understand that Planet Earth had no Moon until about 66 or 60 million years ago, and the majority of time of Earth was without a Moon and thus 1/2 of Earth was constant sunlight, other 1/2 of
    Earth constant darkness and ice cover.

    Physics would say that Continental drift and tectonic plate movement would favor supercontinents and that would favor 1/2 of Earth staring into the Sun constantly. And this could better explain why Earth poles shifted so much in geological times.
    Apparently the supercontinents were between the two poles, and the other side of Earth almost barren of land masses.

    But as Rodinia started to break up and some of the land masses drifted to the edges and some drifting into the dark and cold other side of Earth, our geological records would show those carbonate deposits full of glacial boulders and till.

    So what is in physics to cause Continental Drift??? Well I explain that in my book where Earth is like a refrigerator and continents like pots on the top of the refrigerator. The motor of the refrigerator causes vibrations which moves the pots around.
    Same way the core of Earth is like a electric motor that gives vibrations that causes plate tectonics to move.

    But what is the physics that says a satellite on a planet causes the days to be fast and the revolution to be different and slow? Here the physics explains this as the satellite tugs on the planet to rotate faster. We see this in our Moon causing ocean
    tides and causing Earth days to be 24 hours while revolution is 365 days.

    On planets without satellites such as Mercury and Venus, the planet day and year are almost the same, they are gravitationally locked into the Sun where 1/2 of the planet is in perpetual sunlight and 1/2 in perpetual darkness.

    So the Snowball Earth is true, only NOVA program never gave the truth on how it worked and over exaggerated it enormously, for it never covered the entire planet Earth, leaving 1/2 of Earth always in lovely warm sunlight.

    Now, I can apply some math to this Snowball Earth for we know life exploded in the Cambrian, after the Snowball Earth, and we can calculate roughly how much oxygen was needed to allow this Cambrian life explosion. We can estimate how much life in the
    seas existed to create that oxygen.

    And with good calculations we can calculate how much water was in direct perpetual sunlight to create a Cambrian Life Explosion.

    It maybe the case that the Oceans were on the perpetual sunlight face and Rodinia supercontinent was mostly all on the perpetual dark side of Earth.

    Of course the mechanism announced on NOVA tv show is silly and daft with the CO2 sink, silly silly and daft.

    Volcanoes had a role, only a very minor role.

    As for the fast ice melt, it is possible that in some places a meteor bolide struck.

    AP, King of Science

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to Archimedes Plutonium on Sun Oct 15 22:17:47 2023
    On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 3:21:48 AM UTC-5, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
    Now, I can apply some math to this Snowball Earth for we know life exploded in the Cambrian, after the Snowball Earth, and we can calculate roughly how much oxygen was needed to allow this Cambrian life explosion. We can estimate how much life in the
    seas existed to create that oxygen.

    And with good calculations we can calculate how much water was in direct perpetual sunlight to create a Cambrian Life Explosion.

    It maybe the case that the Oceans were on the perpetual sunlight face and Rodinia supercontinent was mostly all on the perpetual dark side of Earth.


    Now I would like to, and wish to go far into that above calculation, but most of the numbers data are known by only a few experts if known at all, in remote fields of biology and geology, and chemistry. Such as how much oxygen does phytoplankton produce
    per year?

    How much oxygen per year is required for a animal of a certain size to live per year?

    Then a enormous amount of data as to how much oxygen in the atmosphere in cubic density for animals to live per year.

    Enormous number of assumptions to pick through. One in particular was whether oceans took up 70% of Earth surface with continents the rest-- 30%.

    Is it possible in the end to form a reasonable table of numbers?

    Then calculate if the Continents were on the perpetual sun side of Earth to render a Cambrian life explosion, or were on the perpetual dark side of Earth.

    If history in past life in the age of dinosaurs is to go by-- the continents were on the perpetual sun side for dinosaurs lived near North pole and South pole and all in between in the warm perpetual sunlight.

    But the question is, with no life on land, or little to no life on land, did the oxygen making phytoplankton in the oceans have the perpetual Sun side of Earth , or only the 50-30 = 20% of oceans on the perpetual sun side? If the phytoplankton were on
    the perpetual Sun side, they could build up that oxygen atmosphere. But if the phytoplankton had only 20% ocean of perpetual sun side, much more difficult to make a oxygen atmosphere.

    I am going to go out on a limb of guessing, that the Cambrian Explosion of life was because of the oxygen enriched atmosphere due to the oceans were in the perpetual sun side of Earth while the continents were in the dark, perpetual dark side of Earth.
    And it would be easy to have a snowball Earth if the continents were on the perpetual dark side.

    And then in Continental Drift of Rodinia to Pannotia supercontinent finally making its way back to the perpetual sun side of Earth ushering in the Cambrian Life Explosion.

    AP

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  • From Archimedes Plutonium@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 13:10:30 2023
    Invertebrates such as trilobites, in the Cambrian Explosion of life. They are going to need a lot of oxygen in order to live. So, I make the plausible guess that in the Snowball Earth covering only 1/2 of the surface of Earth, that the 1/2 of perpetual
    sunlight was mostly all in the ocean while the supercontinents were almost all in the perpetual darkness 1/2 of Earth.

    And perhaps many of the mass extinctions of animals or plants after the Cambrian were due to the continents slipping from being on one side of Earth into the other side of Earth. Verification of this would be that animals or plants are extincted on one
    side of Earth while animals and plants favored on the other side of Earth. Do we have evidence that say fishes are favored in one mass extinction of land animals? Or that land animals are favored while a mass extinction of fishes takes place?

    AP

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