• Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things?

    From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Sat Aug 26 12:24:06 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.

    Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if
    it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.

    Sylvia.

    "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
    "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
    "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties.

    Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't know what gravity was!

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties wasn't even good at math.

    Wasn't good at math.
    Wasn't good at Gravity.

    He's good at building bombs!

    "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts of radium). -- Albert Einstein (1905)

    "...new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears

    almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.

    This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,

    and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely power-

    ful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this

    type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

    the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However,

    such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by

    air." -Albert Einstein



    Albert Einstein wrote:

    "According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
    you were visiting me
    it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
    to explosion
    a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
    I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
    would like to submit to you for your judgement.
    S is an electro-magnet producing an alternating magnetic field with
    vertical axis. s and s' are two coils with vertical axis connected in
    serie with opposite magnetic axis, which are located symmetrically to
    S.
    The current created by induction in those two coils may be multiplied
    by tubes (current i). The device is set in function only at a moment
    when
    the torpedo is far enough from the emitting ship to avoid the magnetic influence of the latter. As long as the torpedo is on the way i will
    vanish for reasons of symmetry. The torpedo is supposed to travel deep
    enough so that it will not hit the target directly but pass below it.
    When the torpedo approaches the target there will be created through
    the
    nearby parts of the ship's hull an additional (induced) alternative
    magnetic field which at first will be stronger in s than in s'. There
    is
    now created a current i the intensity of which will change according
    to
    the following diagrams L ' U PV... M corresponds to the moment when
    the torpedo passes under the middle of the ship. At this moment i will
    again vanish for reasons of symmetry. This is the moment to put the
    explosion into action. It will be easy to construct an electrical
    contact device which functions if a current is first initiated and
    goes
    again to zero afterwards. " -Albert Einstein




    Now, here is a question I have.



    "Einstein was thinking about the prob-
    lem for about ten minutes, and finally
    chose momentum and gave the reasons" -Lt. Stephen Brunauer, head of the High Explosives Division



    Lt. Stephen Brunauer, head of the High Explosives Division presented his problem to Albert Einstein.

    Question: How did Albert Einstein answered the question in ten minutes????









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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Aug 26 12:34:55 2023
    On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 12:23:48 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.

    Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.

    Sylvia.

    "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
    "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
    "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties.

    Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't know what gravity was!

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties wasn't even good at math.

    Wasn't good at math.
    Wasn't good at Gravity.

    He's good at building bombs!

    "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts of radium). -- Albert Einstein (1905)

    "...new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears

    almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.

    This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,

    and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely power-

    ful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this

    type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

    the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However,

    such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by

    air." -Albert Einstein



    Albert Einstein wrote:

    "According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
    you were visiting me
    it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
    to explosion
    a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
    I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
    would like to submit to you for your judgement.
    S is an electro-magnet producing an alternating magnetic field with
    vertical axis. s and s' are two coils with vertical axis connected in
    serie with opposite magnetic axis, which are located symmetrically to
    S.
    The current created by induction in those two coils may be multiplied
    by tubes (current i). The device is set in function only at a moment
    when
    the torpedo is far enough from the emitting ship to avoid the magnetic influence of the latter. As long as the torpedo is on the way i will
    vanish for reasons of symmetry. The torpedo is supposed to travel deep enough so that it will not hit the target directly but pass below it.
    When the torpedo approaches the target there will be created through
    the
    nearby parts of the ship's hull an additional (induced) alternative
    magnetic field which at first will be stronger in s than in s'. There
    is
    now created a current i the intensity of which will change according
    to
    the following diagrams L ' U PV... M corresponds to the moment when
    the torpedo passes under the middle of the ship. At this moment i will
    again vanish for reasons of symmetry. This is the moment to put the explosion into action. It will be easy to construct an electrical
    contact device which functions if a current is first initiated and
    goes
    again to zero afterwards. " -Albert Einstein




    Now, here is a question I have.



    "Einstein was thinking about the prob-
    lem for about ten minutes, and finally
    chose momentum and gave the reasons" -Lt. Stephen Brunauer, head of the High Explosives Division



    Lt. Stephen Brunauer, head of the High Explosives Division presented his problem to Albert Einstein.

    Question: How did Albert Einstein answered the question in ten minutes????









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    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    Dimension has only been measured to expand fast.
    How could motion take that away?

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  • From Physfitfreak@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Aug 26 17:41:24 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 8/26/2023 2:24 PM, The Starmaker wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.




    Star, let me borrow your post so I can respond to Crossen. Thanks. He
    makes a valid point.

    I have two points to make which might help you.

    1. Reasoning to persuade you to give importance to a physics theory can
    come in various ways. Sometimes it is directly comparing its predictions
    with measurements in experiments. But that's for scientists in that
    field, not the fresh students or scientists of other fields. Sometimes
    the reasoning made is deriving the theory from other theories that you
    are comfortable with. That, also, is for scientists. But sometimes, when nothing else seems to have worked, one could at least bring you
    _analogies_ from weirder assumptions made elsewhere in physics which you
    have accepted without complaining, so that you could put the situation
    in perspective and become more comfortable with the weird assumptions
    made in the theory of relativity.

    I forged through like two hours a couple of days back in
    sci.physics.relativity to get a picture, and more or less saw what was happening. You are asking your questions from individuals who cannot
    help you. They know their relativity, but they cannot help you with your questions in any way other than throwing the books at you. In fact, they
    do not make any of the three forms of reasoning that I just mentioned
    above. They may even be thinking they're helping you (if they're not
    that bright - a few of them are plain stupid), but they're not helping you.

    That's one point.

    2. Second point is that, it's not their job to help you. You're alone in
    this and all the work required is on you. Even in institutions where you
    pay professors to help you, they never go all the 9 miles! Because the
    rest of the job is on you :) If they spoon-feed you too much, it will
    work against you in fact. It will leave holes in your understanding of
    your own abilities.

    You either find some way to convince yourself about this theory all by yourself, or, you fail to do that, in which case no harm is done because
    it means it was not a field that would work for you anyway, so now you'd
    know you should pursue other fields.









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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Aug 27 11:09:36 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.

    Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if
    it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.

    Sylvia.

    "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
    "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
    "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties.

    Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't know what gravity was!

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties wasn't even good at math.

    Wasn't good at math.
    Wasn't good at Gravity.

    He's good at building bombs!

    "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts of radium). -- Albert Einstein (1905)

    "...new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears

    almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.

    This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,

    and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely power-

    ful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this

    type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

    the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However,

    such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by

    air." -Albert Einstein



    What the 'scientific community' doesn't understand is that since 1905 Albert Einstein made a beeline
    to building an atomic bomb. That was his baby. That was His experiment..."prove possible - to test this theory" of his.

    It had noting about killing Germans. It simply was just an ...experiment. ("to test this theory")



    By 1939..in order to "test this theory", he needed money to buy more uranium, so he conned the USA government by telling them
    'If you don't give me the fuckin money you are all going to die!'


    "...b) to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being car-

    ried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by

    providing funds, ..."



    In order words, Albert Einstein (a government unto himself) was selling 'protection'.


    to speed up the experimental work
    which is at present
    being carried on within the limits
    of the budgets of University laboratories




    So, he wouldn't have taken TEN YEARS to finish General Relativity if he wasn't soooo preoccupied "to test this theory".





    Here is his blueprint to build an atomic bomb

    Albert Einstein's letters to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first


    OPM



















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    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Aug 27 11:37:25 2023
    On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 11:09:21 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.

    Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.

    Sylvia.

    "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
    "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
    "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties.

    Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't know what gravity was!

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties wasn't even good at math.

    Wasn't good at math.
    Wasn't good at Gravity.

    He's good at building bombs!

    "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts of radium). -- Albert Einstein (1905)

    "...new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears

    almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.

    This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,

    and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely power-

    ful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this

    type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

    the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However,

    such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by

    air." -Albert Einstein
    What the 'scientific community' doesn't understand is that since 1905 Albert Einstein made a beeline
    to building an atomic bomb. That was his baby. That was His experiment..."prove possible - to test this theory" of his.

    It had noting about killing Germans. It simply was just an ...experiment. ("to test this theory")



    By 1939..in order to "test this theory", he needed money to buy more uranium, so he conned the USA government by telling them
    'If you don't give me the fuckin money you are all going to die!'


    "...b) to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being car-

    ried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by

    providing funds, ..."



    In order words, Albert Einstein (a government unto himself) was selling 'protection'.


    to speed up the experimental work
    which is at present
    being carried on within the limits
    of the budgets of University laboratories




    So, he wouldn't have taken TEN YEARS to finish General Relativity if he wasn't
    soooo preoccupied "to test this theory".





    Here is his blueprint to build an atomic bomb

    Albert Einstein's letters to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first


    OPM
    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

    Einstein acted in America over Hitler.
    That wasn't a sin.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Aug 27 12:18:00 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.

    Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.

    Sylvia.

    "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
    "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
    "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties.

    Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't know what gravity was!

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties wasn't even good at math.

    Wasn't good at math.
    Wasn't good at Gravity.

    He's good at building bombs!

    "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts of radium). -- Albert Einstein (1905)

    "...new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears

    almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.

    This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,

    and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely power-

    ful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this

    type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

    the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However,

    such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by

    air." -Albert Einstein

    What the 'scientific community' doesn't understand is that since 1905 Albert Einstein made a beeline
    to building an atomic bomb. That was his baby. That was His experiment..."prove possible - to test this theory" of his.

    It had noting about killing Germans. It simply was just an ...experiment. ("to test this theory")

    By 1939..in order to "test this theory", he needed money to buy more uranium, so he conned the USA government by telling them
    'If you don't give me the fuckin money you are all going to die!'

    "...b) to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being car-

    ried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by

    providing funds, ..."

    In order words, Albert Einstein (a government unto himself) was selling 'protection'.

    to speed up the experimental work
    which is at present
    being carried on within the limits
    of the budgets of University laboratories

    So, he wouldn't have taken TEN YEARS to finish General Relativity if he wasn't
    soooo preoccupied "to test this theory".

    Here is his blueprint to build an atomic bomb

    Albert Einstein's letters to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first

    OPM (other people's money)

    "It reflects his curiosity and anticipation of future experiments at universities that could provide empirical evidence to support his groundbreaking ideas."
    ..

    "By using substances like radium salts with variable energy content, Einstein envisioned experiments that could potentially demonstrate the
    conversion of mass into energy and validate his theory.
    However, it's important to note that while his proposal was conceptually sound, the exact experimental implementation and verification may
    have required further advancements in technology and experimental techniques.

    It reflects his curiosity and anticipation of future experiments at universities that could provide empirical evidence to support his groundbreaking ideas."




    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Aug 27 12:21:33 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.

    Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if
    it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.

    Sylvia.

    "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
    "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
    "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties.

    Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't know what gravity was!

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties wasn't even good at math.

    Wasn't good at math.
    Wasn't good at Gravity.

    He's good at building bombs!

    "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts of radium). -- Albert Einstein (1905)

    "...new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears

    almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.

    This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,

    and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely power-

    ful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this

    type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

    the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However,

    such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by

    air." -Albert Einstein

    What the 'scientific community' doesn't understand is that since 1905 Albert Einstein made a beeline
    to building an atomic bomb. That was his baby. That was His experiment..."prove possible - to test this theory" of his.

    It had noting about killing Germans. It simply was just an ...experiment. ("to test this theory")

    By 1939..in order to "test this theory", he needed money to buy more uranium, so he conned the USA government by telling them
    'If you don't give me the fuckin money you are all going to die!'

    "...b) to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being car-

    ried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by

    providing funds, ..."

    In order words, Albert Einstein (a government unto himself) was selling 'protection'.

    to speed up the experimental work
    which is at present
    being carried on within the limits
    of the budgets of University laboratories

    So, he wouldn't have taken TEN YEARS to finish General Relativity if he wasn't
    soooo preoccupied "to test this theory".

    Here is his blueprint to build an atomic bomb

    Albert Einstein's letters to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first

    OPM (other people's money)

    "It reflects his curiosity and anticipation of future experiments at universities that could provide empirical evidence to support his groundbreaking ideas."
    ..

    "By using substances like radium salts with variable energy content, Einstein envisioned experiments that could potentially demonstrate the
    conversion of mass into energy and validate his theory.
    However, it's important to note that while his proposal was conceptually sound, the exact experimental implementation and verification may
    have required further advancements in technology and experimental techniques.

    It reflects his curiosity and anticipation of future experiments at universities that could provide empirical evidence to support his groundbreaking ideas."

    "At the time, radium was a known radioactive element that emitted
    radiation and was associated with the release of energy.
    Einstein's suggestion to test his theory using radium salts was based on
    the understanding that radioactive materials, like radium,
    undergo spontaneous disintegration, resulting in the emission of
    radiation and the release of energy.

    By using radium salts or similar radioactive materials, Einstein
    envisioned conducting experiments to observe whether there would be any detectable changes in
    the mass of the radioactive substances as they emitted energy. Such
    experiments would provide empirical evidence to support or
    validate his mass-energy equivalence theory, as described by the
    equation E=mc²."



    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Aug 27 12:52:00 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.

    Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if
    it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can
    contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.

    Sylvia.

    "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks. "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
    "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties.

    Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't know what gravity was!

    a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties wasn't even good at math.

    Wasn't good at math.
    Wasn't good at Gravity.

    He's good at building bombs!

    "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts of radium). -- Albert Einstein (1905)

    "...new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears

    almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.

    This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,

    and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely power-

    ful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this

    type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

    the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However,

    such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by

    air." -Albert Einstein

    What the 'scientific community' doesn't understand is that since 1905 Albert Einstein made a beeline
    to building an atomic bomb. That was his baby. That was His experiment..."prove possible - to test this theory" of his.

    It had noting about killing Germans. It simply was just an ...experiment. ("to test this theory")

    By 1939..in order to "test this theory", he needed money to buy more uranium, so he conned the USA government by telling them
    'If you don't give me the fuckin money you are all going to die!'

    "...b) to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being car-

    ried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by

    providing funds, ..."

    In order words, Albert Einstein (a government unto himself) was selling 'protection'.

    to speed up the experimental work
    which is at present
    being carried on within the limits
    of the budgets of University laboratories

    So, he wouldn't have taken TEN YEARS to finish General Relativity if he wasn't
    soooo preoccupied "to test this theory".

    Here is his blueprint to build an atomic bomb

    Albert Einstein's letters to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first

    OPM (other people's money)

    "It reflects his curiosity and anticipation of future experiments at universities that could provide empirical evidence to support his groundbreaking ideas."
    ..

    "By using substances like radium salts with variable energy content, Einstein envisioned experiments that could potentially demonstrate the
    conversion of mass into energy and validate his theory.
    However, it's important to note that while his proposal was conceptually sound, the exact experimental implementation and verification may
    have required further advancements in technology and experimental techniques.

    It reflects his curiosity and anticipation of future experiments at universities that could provide empirical evidence to support his groundbreaking ideas."

    "At the time, radium was a known radioactive element that emitted
    radiation and was associated with the release of energy.
    Einstein's suggestion to test his theory using radium salts was based on
    the understanding that radioactive materials, like radium,
    undergo spontaneous disintegration, resulting in the emission of
    radiation and the release of energy.

    By using radium salts or similar radioactive materials, Einstein
    envisioned conducting experiments to observe whether there would be any detectable changes in
    the mass of the radioactive substances as they emitted energy. Such experiments would provide empirical evidence to support or
    validate his mass-energy equivalence theory, as described by the
    equation E=mc²."


    "The United States has only very poor ores of uranium in moderate

    quantities. There is some good ore in Canada and the former Czechoslovakia.

    while the most important source of uranium is Belgian Congo." --Albert Einstein August 2nd 1939


    'the price of radium in the 1920s was $100,000 a gram'


    How much is a $100,000 in today's money? about $1,528,455



    In other words, albert einstien's friends came to his house to complain that his experiment requires...TONs of uranium.

    That would cost around ONE TRILLION DOLLARS.




    "Enrico Fermi was intensively involved with Einstein's theory of relativity and traced the hidden power of atomic nuclei.
    In 1923, he wrote that it would probably not be possible to release this energy in the near future, "because
    the first effect would be an explosion so terrible that it would tear the physicist who tried it to pieces". "



    Anybody here..intensively involved with Einstein's theory of relativity, (besides me) ...i don't think so.???


    I'm the only smartest guy in the room.










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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 5 08:45:19 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Am 27.08.2023 um 20:09 schrieb The Starmaker:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.

    Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if >>> it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can
    contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then. >>>
    Sylvia.

    "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
    "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
    "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties.

    Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

    Also not mentioned were acceleration and induction.

    SRT is more or less 'acceleration free', which includes gravity.

    It is not a particularily likely restriction, because some sort of
    gravity or other forms of acceleration should be present everywhere.


    Also Einstein's discription of induction was, at least, odd, but
    actually the word 'induction' cannot be found at all in his paper.

    So we are not sure, whether or not he had induction in mind. But at
    least he mentioned moving magnets and wires and electric fields inside conductors.

    Missing was, for instance, the requirement for a conductor to form a
    closed loop, if current shall flow throug it.

    Usually the influence of moving magnets upon loops of wire is called 'induction', but not so in Einstein's paper.


    Also streight linear motion with constant velocity is a rather harsch restriction, because that's not how the universe behaves.

    ...


    TH

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to Thomas Heger on Tue Sep 5 22:00:14 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Thomas Heger wrote:

    Am 27.08.2023 um 20:09 schrieb The Starmaker:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    Sylvia Else wrote:

    On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
    By being indoctrinated in an ideology.

    Why can't they defend that with reason?

    Because they weren't persuaded by reason.

    Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if >>> it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can >>> contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.

    Sylvia.

    "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
    "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
    "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties.

    Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
    twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

    Also not mentioned were acceleration and induction.

    SRT is more or less 'acceleration free', which includes gravity.

    It is not a particularily likely restriction, because some sort of
    gravity or other forms of acceleration should be present everywhere.

    Also Einstein's discription of induction was, at least, odd, but
    actually the word 'induction' cannot be found at all in his paper.

    So we are not sure, whether or not he had induction in mind. But at
    least he mentioned moving magnets and wires and electric fields inside conductors.

    Missing was, for instance, the requirement for a conductor to form a
    closed loop, if current shall flow throug it.

    Usually the influence of moving magnets upon loops of wire is called 'induction', but not so in Einstein's paper.

    Also streight linear motion with constant velocity is a rather harsch restriction, because that's not how the universe behaves.

    ...

    TH

    Simply, Albert Einstein didn't think about "acceleration". Like he
    forgot Gravity existed then.






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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge the unchallengeable.

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  • From Thomas Heger@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 6 07:20:38 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    Am 06.09.2023 um 07:00 schrieb The Starmaker:

    Also streight linear motion with constant velocity is a rather harsch
    restriction, because that's not how the universe behaves.

    ...

    TH

    Simply, Albert Einstein didn't think about "acceleration". Like he
    forgot Gravity existed then.


    Well, actually SRT is about a special case, where no gravity exists.

    This is not a particularly likely scenario, but somehow possible as simplification.

    He didn't consider the effects of acceleration in a paragrapg about
    movement from point A back to point A, where he assumed, this would also
    be possible along any polygonal line.


    But in SRT we have also another restriction: v was defined as constant velocity.

    And constant velocity along 'any polygonal line' is impossible, because
    that would cause infinite acceleration.


    TH




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