• The continents formed where they are at still now

    From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 13 08:19:46 2023
    instead of at Pangea. There is no push mechanism for Pangea.
    How could the friction be overcome? and push in a
    preferred direction alone? If Pangea is still pushed now will
    it not end up on the other side instead?

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sun Aug 13 08:37:55 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    instead of at Pangea. There is no push mechanism for Pangea.
    How could the friction be overcome? and push in a
    preferred direction alone? If Pangea is still pushed now will
    it not end up on the other side instead?

    Typical idiotic moron babble.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Sun Aug 13 09:22:13 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    instead of at Pangea. There is no push mechanism for Pangea.
    How could the friction be overcome? and push in a
    preferred direction alone? If Pangea is still pushed now will
    it not end up on the other side instead?
    Typical idiotic moron babble.

    What would form pangea?
    What pushes it apart against continental friction?
    No. The continents formed where they are now in the beginning.

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sun Aug 13 09:34:54 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    instead of at Pangea. There is no push mechanism for Pangea.
    How could the friction be overcome? and push in a
    preferred direction alone? If Pangea is still pushed now will
    it not end up on the other side instead?
    Typical idiotic moron babble.

    What would form pangea?
    What pushes it apart against continental friction?
    No. The continents formed where they are now in the beginning.

    All this is a free and trivial lookup, moron.

    Where you born this stupid or is it brain damage that makes you so
    incredibly stupid?

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Sun Aug 13 14:47:46 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    instead of at Pangea. There is no push mechanism for Pangea.
    How could the friction be overcome? and push in a
    preferred direction alone? If Pangea is still pushed now will
    it not end up on the other side instead?
    Typical idiotic moron babble.

    What would form pangea?
    What pushes it apart against continental friction?
    No. The continents formed where they are now in the beginning.
    All this is a free and trivial lookup, moron.

    Where you born this stupid or is it brain damage that makes you so incredibly stupid?

    What formed pangea? then what pushes that huge mass apart against its friction? Each continent has a preferred direction of drift. So how does drift get that direction? if each continent is pushed in another direction?

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  • From Andy Everett@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sun Aug 13 16:01:11 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:19:50 AM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    instead of at Pangea. There is no push mechanism for Pangea.
    How could the friction be overcome? and push in a
    preferred direction alone? If Pangea is still pushed now will
    it not end up on the other side instead?

    Mitchell Raemsch

    The flow of heat from the radioactive interior causes slow moving currents within the Earth. Satellite laser range finders map the motion up and down and sideways with exquisite precision of points on the Earth.

    Google "What causes the continents to move"

    First hit, "The heat from radioactive processes within the planet's interior causes the plates to move, sometimes toward and sometimes away from each other. This movement is called plate motion, or tectonic shift."

    You can believe in God and be a scientist at the same time.

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sun Aug 13 15:14:21 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    instead of at Pangea. There is no push mechanism for Pangea.
    How could the friction be overcome? and push in a
    preferred direction alone? If Pangea is still pushed now will
    it not end up on the other side instead?
    Typical idiotic moron babble.

    What would form pangea?
    What pushes it apart against continental friction?
    No. The continents formed where they are now in the beginning.
    All this is a free and trivial lookup, moron.

    Where you born this stupid or is it brain damage that makes you so
    incredibly stupid?

    What formed pangea? then what pushes that huge mass apart against its friction?
    Each continent has a preferred direction of drift. So how does drift get that direction? if each continent is pushed in another direction?

    Yet more moron babble.

    All this is a free and trivial lookup, moron.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Andy Everett on Mon Aug 14 08:51:09 2023
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:01:16 PM UTC-7, Andy Everett wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:19:50 AM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    instead of at Pangea. There is no push mechanism for Pangea.
    How could the friction be overcome? and push in a
    preferred direction alone? If Pangea is still pushed now will
    it not end up on the other side instead?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    The flow of heat from the radioactive interior causes slow moving currents within the Earth. Satellite laser range finders map the motion up and down and sideways with exquisite precision of points on the Earth.

    Google "What causes the continents to move"

    Plates are too massive to be pushed. Instead
    they formed where they are at the Earth's very beginning.



    First hit, "The heat from radioactive processes within the planet's interior causes the plates to move, sometimes toward and sometimes away from each other. This movement is called plate motion, or tectonic shift."

    Drift is not measured going in two directions for the same plate.
    If plates move toward and away there would no net movement after.
    They would tend to stay close to where they are instead.
    How did the continents get to where they are after Pangea
    if they get pushed in both direction back and fortth?
    They would need a preferred direction. Or they would
    not have gotten to where they are. NO. They formed
    where they are.

    Mitchell Raemsch


    You can believe in God and be a scientist at the same time.

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon Aug 14 10:20:14 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:51:12 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Plates are too massive to be pushed.

    Your supporting evidence for this claim is what, Mitch?

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Mon Aug 14 10:23:17 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:51:12 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Plates are too massive to be pushed.
    Your supporting evidence for this claim is what, Mitch?

    Its called weight that has too much friction...
    What is your evidence they are not where they formed
    at Earth's beginning paul?

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon Aug 14 12:05:26 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:23:21 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:51:12 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Plates are too massive to be pushed.
    Your supporting evidence for this claim is what, Mitch?

    Its called weight that has too much friction...
    What is your evidence they are not where they formed
    at Earth's beginning paul?

    That is not evidence, Mitch... that is just you making it up as you go along. You need to follow the Scientific Method...

    "The scientific method is a process for objectively establishing facts through
    testing and experimentation. It involves making observations, asking questions,
    forming hypotheses, making predictions, conducting experiments, and analyzing results.
    The scientific method is a standardized way of conducting research."

    My own evidence , models that were constructed by the aforementioned process, can be found in thousands of research papers and textbooks. you should read one of them.

    Just because you cannot understand plate tectonics does not mean that the model is incorrect.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Mon Aug 14 12:39:35 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:05:30 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:23:21 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:51:12 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Plates are too massive to be pushed.
    Your supporting evidence for this claim is what, Mitch?

    Its called weight that has too much friction...
    What is your evidence they are not where they formed
    at Earth's beginning paul?
    That is not evidence, Mitch... that is just you making it up as you go along. You need to follow the Scientific Method...

    "The scientific method is a process for objectively establishing facts through
    testing and experimentation. It involves making observations, asking questions,

    It is mostly biased to get the result it wants. That is: science is wrong.
    The liar lies and it is science. not me.


    forming hypotheses, making predictions, conducting experiments, and analyzing results.
    The scientific method is a standardized way of conducting research."

    My own evidence , models that were constructed by the aforementioned process,
    can be found in thousands of research papers and textbooks. you should read one of them.

    Just because you cannot understand plate tectonics does not mean that the model is incorrect.

    The scientific method can be used in the negative. Science can be loaded to get the desired result it wants.
    Everything can be abused. And the scientific method is collecting data that only
    gives a statistical or average result instead of accuracy of any kind. Just as quantum mechanics
    demonstrates uncertainty in all measurements. The scientific method has the same limit
    in its measurements as the QM central principle does.

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon Aug 14 18:38:48 2023
    On 8/14/2023 1:23 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:51:12 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>
    Plates are too massive to be pushed.
    Your supporting evidence for this claim is what, Mitch?

    Its called weight that has too much friction...

    What is your evidence of this "weight that has too much friction"?
    Besides, the friction would be with the mantle below which is moving, so
    the plates would move because of their friction as well.

    While Mitch is probably not allowed access to anything as hazardous as
    boiling water, here's a simple experiment to help visualize things.

    Heat water in a pot until almost boiling but not actually boiling. You
    may be able to see convection currents in the water since the heat comes
    from the bottom. Add some small pieces of something that floats on
    water, flakes, wood chips, etc. The convection currents will cause the
    pieces to move around and form clumps "continents" floating on the water
    which may form a big clump or break up etc.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Volney on Mon Aug 14 17:31:33 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:38:55 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/14/2023 1:23 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:51:12 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Plates are too massive to be pushed.
    Your supporting evidence for this claim is what, Mitch?

    Its called weight that has too much friction...
    What is your evidence of this "weight that has too much friction"?
    Besides, the friction would be with the mantle below which is moving, so
    the plates would move because of their friction as well.

    Then what moves what. The mantle is not moving.
    Where is that mantle movement measured now?


    While Mitch is probably not allowed access to anything as hazardous as boiling water, here's a simple experiment to help visualize things.

    Heat water in a pot until almost boiling but not actually boiling. You
    may be able to see convection currents in the water since the heat comes from the bottom. Add some small pieces of something that floats on
    water, flakes, wood chips, etc. The convection currents will cause the pieces to move around and form clumps "continents" floating on the water which may form a big clump or break up etc.

    Plate mass is too big in its weight and therefor has friction at its highest. Why would it not?

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon Aug 14 18:53:16 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:31:37 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Where is that mantle movement measured now?

    We all know that you are too challenged to look this up for yourself, Mitch...

    https://www.thoughtco.com/measuring-plate-motion-1441107#:~:text=Geodesy%2C%20the%20science%20of%20measuring,per%20year%2C%20GPS%20can%20tell.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Mon Aug 14 19:28:37 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:53:19 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:31:37 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Where is that mantle movement measured now?
    We all know that you are too challenged to look this up for yourself, Mitch...

    https://www.thoughtco.com/measuring-plate-motion-1441107#:~:text=Geodesy%2C%20the%20science%20of%20measuring,per%20year%2C%20GPS%20can%20tell.

    Plate is above the mantle. How does the mantle move?
    Where did the plates start moving?
    No. Plates were formed at the beginning where they are now.
    If we measure anything it is coastal change and not
    continental drift. They drift to the opposite side if they are still
    drifting now.

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Mon Aug 14 21:22:41 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 7:28:41 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:53:19 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:31:37 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Where is that mantle movement measured now?
    We all know that you are too challenged to look this up for yourself, Mitch...

    https://www.thoughtco.com/measuring-plate-motion-1441107#:~:text=Geodesy%2C%20the%20science%20of%20measuring,per%20year%2C%20GPS%20can%20tell.
    Plate is above the mantle. How does the mantle move?
    Where did the plates start moving?
    No. Plates were formed at the beginning where they are now.
    If we measure anything it is coastal change and not
    continental drift. They drift to the opposite side if they are still drifting now.

    Well, you can lead a horse to water... and you know the rest...

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 15 02:14:17 2023
    On 8/14/2023 10:28 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:53:19 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:31:37 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: >>
    Where is that mantle movement measured now?
    We all know that you are too challenged to look this up for yourself, Mitch...

    https://www.thoughtco.com/measuring-plate-motion-1441107#:~:text=Geodesy%2C%20the%20science%20of%20measuring,per%20year%2C%20GPS%20can%20tell.

    Plate is above the mantle. How does the mantle move?

    I already told you, Roy. Convection currents.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Volney on Tue Aug 15 09:07:22 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:14:24 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/14/2023 10:28 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:53:19 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:31:37 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Where is that mantle movement measured now?
    We all know that you are too challenged to look this up for yourself, Mitch...

    https://www.thoughtco.com/measuring-plate-motion-1441107#:~:text=Geodesy%2C%20the%20science%20of%20measuring,per%20year%2C%20GPS%20can%20tell.

    Plate is above the mantle. How does the mantle move?
    I already told you, Roy. Convection currents.

    But the plate mass is too big.

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 15 09:31:38 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:14:24 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/14/2023 10:28 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:53:19 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:31:37 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Where is that mantle movement measured now?
    We all know that you are too challenged to look this up for yourself, Mitch...

    https://www.thoughtco.com/measuring-plate-motion-1441107#:~:text=Geodesy%2C%20the%20science%20of%20measuring,per%20year%2C%20GPS%20can%20tell.

    Plate is above the mantle. How does the mantle move?
    I already told you, Roy. Convection currents.

    But the plate mass is too big.

    Too big for what, moron?

    How big is "too big", moron?

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 15 16:21:03 2023
    On 8/15/2023 12:07 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:14:24 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/14/2023 10:28 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 6:53:19 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 5:31:37 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Where is that mantle movement measured now?
    We all know that you are too challenged to look this up for yourself, Mitch...

    https://www.thoughtco.com/measuring-plate-motion-1441107#:~:text=Geodesy%2C%20the%20science%20of%20measuring,per%20year%2C%20GPS%20can%20tell.

    Plate is above the mantle. How does the mantle move?
    I already told you, Roy. Convection currents.

    But the plate mass is too big.

    Too big for what, Roy? Where is your scientific evidence for it being
    "too big"?

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  • From edprochak@gmail.com@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 15 14:32:59 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 4:01:16 PM UTC-7, Andy Everett wrote:
    On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 11:19:50 AM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    instead of at Pangea. There is no push mechanism for Pangea.
    How could the friction be overcome? and push in a
    preferred direction alone? If Pangea is still pushed now will
    it not end up on the other side instead?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    The flow of heat from the radioactive interior causes slow moving currents within the Earth. Satellite laser range finders map the motion up and down and sideways with exquisite precision of points on the Earth.

    Google "What causes the continents to move"
    Plates are too massive to be pushed. Instead
    they formed where they are at the Earth's very beginning.

    Michell,
    So you are saying God created something that even He cannot move.
    Blasphemous!



    You can believe in God and be a scientist at the same time.
    That's right Andy.

    Enjoy,
    Ed

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  • From edprochak@gmail.com@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 15 14:50:10 2023
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:39:40 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:05:30 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:23:21 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:51:12 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Plates are too massive to be pushed.
    Your supporting evidence for this claim is what, Mitch?

    Its called weight that has too much friction...
    What is your evidence they are not where they formed
    at Earth's beginning paul?

    Measuring the speed they are moving now, as Andy already told you.
    As for too much friction, you do know that the plates float on a liquid.
    There is a little thing called Newton's laws of motion. The continents basically have always been in motion. And they will keep moving for quite
    a while because of the relatively low friction of the magma they ride on
    and in addition there are the magma currents

    That is not evidence, Mitch... that is just you making it up as you go along. You need to follow the Scientific Method...

    "The scientific method is a process for objectively establishing facts through
    testing and experimentation. It involves making observations, asking questions,
    It is mostly biased to get the result it wants. That is: science is wrong.

    Translation of Michell's statement: "Boo Hoo. the facts don't fit my theories!"

    The liar lies and it is science. not me.

    You are just misguided. Or you are a lying troll. Take your pick, Michell.


    forming hypotheses, making predictions, conducting experiments, and analyzing results.
    The scientific method is a standardized way of conducting research."

    My own evidence , models that were constructed by the aforementioned process,
    can be found in thousands of research papers and textbooks. you should read one of them.

    Just because you cannot understand plate tectonics does not mean that the model is incorrect.
    The scientific method can be used in the negative. Science can be loaded to get the desired result it wants.

    No, that's why research is published so others can make the measurements
    and find any errors. The measurements of plate movement have been repeated
    often and confirms the plates to be moving.

    Just repeating your belief is not proof or contradiction of current knowledge.

    Everything can be abused. And the scientific method is collecting data that only
    gives a statistical or average result instead of accuracy of any kind. Just as quantum mechanics
    demonstrates uncertainty in all measurements. The scientific method has the same limit
    in its measurements as the QM central principle does.

    You've never done a science experiment have you Michell?
    The measurements are very accurate, but more importantly,
    very repeatable. Show some measurements that the plates
    are not moving then maybe you can have a case.

    But then you would not be able to explain earthquakes,
    Volcanoes, mountains, and more.

    Enjoy,
    Ed

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to edpr...@gmail.com on Tue Aug 15 16:00:04 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 2:50:14 PM UTC-7, edpr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:39:40 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:05:30 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:23:21 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:51:12 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Plates are too massive to be pushed.
    Your supporting evidence for this claim is what, Mitch?

    Its called weight that has too much friction...
    What is your evidence they are not where they formed
    at Earth's beginning paul?
    Measuring the speed they are moving now, as Andy already told you.
    As for too much friction, you do know that the plates float on a liquid. There is a little thing called Newton's laws of motion. The continents basically have always been in motion. And they will keep moving for quite
    a while because of the relatively low friction of the magma they ride on
    and in addition there are the magma currents
    That is not evidence, Mitch... that is just you making it up as you go along. You need to follow the Scientific Method...

    "The scientific method is a process for objectively establishing facts through
    testing and experimentation. It involves making observations, asking questions,
    It is mostly biased to get the result it wants. That is: science is wrong.
    Translation of Michell's statement: "Boo Hoo. the facts don't fit my theories!"
    The liar lies and it is science. not me.
    You are just misguided. Or you are a lying troll. Take your pick, Michell.
    forming hypotheses, making predictions, conducting experiments, and analyzing results.
    The scientific method is a standardized way of conducting research."

    My own evidence , models that were constructed by the aforementioned process,
    can be found in thousands of research papers and textbooks. you should read one of them.

    Just because you cannot understand plate tectonics does not mean that the model is incorrect.
    The scientific method can be used in the negative. Science can be loaded to get the desired result it wants.
    No, that's why research is published so others can make the measurements
    and find any errors. The measurements of plate movement have been repeated often and confirms the plates to be moving.

    Just repeating your belief is not proof or contradiction of current knowledge.
    Everything can be abused. And the scientific method is collecting data that only
    gives a statistical or average result instead of accuracy of any kind. Just as quantum mechanics
    demonstrates uncertainty in all measurements. The scientific method has the same limit
    in its measurements as the QM central principle does.
    You've never done a science experiment have you Michell?
    The measurements are very accurate, but more importantly,
    very repeatable. Show some measurements that the plates
    are not moving then maybe you can have a case.

    But then you would not be able to explain earthquakes,
    Volcanoes, mountains, and more.

    Enjoy,
    Ed

    There is a consequence to plates moving.
    How did they start at Pangea? And why would
    they move in their multiple different directions ed?
    If they are measured to be won't they end up
    on the other side?

    No, They have never moved. They have always
    been where they are.

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Wed Aug 16 09:43:08 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:

    <snip old crap>

    Instead of drifting there is coastal change being measured.

    No, you blithering moron, there is both continent drift and coastal
    change being measured.

    What caused you to be so blazingly stupid? Was it a birth defect or
    later brain damage?

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Wed Aug 16 09:18:02 2023
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:00:08 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 2:50:14 PM UTC-7, edpr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 3:39:40 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:05:30 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:23:21 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 10:20:18 AM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 8:51:12 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Plates are too massive to be pushed.
    Your supporting evidence for this claim is what, Mitch?

    Its called weight that has too much friction...
    What is your evidence they are not where they formed
    at Earth's beginning paul?
    Measuring the speed they are moving now, as Andy already told you.
    As for too much friction, you do know that the plates float on a liquid. There is a little thing called Newton's laws of motion. The continents basically have always been in motion. And they will keep moving for quite a while because of the relatively low friction of the magma they ride on and in addition there are the magma currents
    That is not evidence, Mitch... that is just you making it up as you go along. You need to follow the Scientific Method...

    "The scientific method is a process for objectively establishing facts through
    testing and experimentation. It involves making observations, asking questions,
    It is mostly biased to get the result it wants. That is: science is wrong.
    Translation of Michell's statement: "Boo Hoo. the facts don't fit my theories!"
    The liar lies and it is science. not me.
    You are just misguided. Or you are a lying troll. Take your pick, Michell.
    forming hypotheses, making predictions, conducting experiments, and analyzing results.
    The scientific method is a standardized way of conducting research."

    My own evidence , models that were constructed by the aforementioned process,
    can be found in thousands of research papers and textbooks. you should read one of them.

    Just because you cannot understand plate tectonics does not mean that the model is incorrect.
    The scientific method can be used in the negative. Science can be loaded to get the desired result it wants.
    No, that's why research is published so others can make the measurements and find any errors. The measurements of plate movement have been repeated often and confirms the plates to be moving.

    Just repeating your belief is not proof or contradiction of current knowledge.
    Everything can be abused. And the scientific method is collecting data that only
    gives a statistical or average result instead of accuracy of any kind. Just as quantum mechanics
    demonstrates uncertainty in all measurements. The scientific method has the same limit
    in its measurements as the QM central principle does.
    You've never done a science experiment have you Michell?
    The measurements are very accurate, but more importantly,
    very repeatable. Show some measurements that the plates
    are not moving then maybe you can have a case.

    But then you would not be able to explain earthquakes,
    Volcanoes, mountains, and more.

    Enjoy,
    Ed
    There is a consequence to plates moving.
    How did they start at Pangea? And why would
    they move in their multiple different directions ed?
    If they are measured to be won't they end up
    on the other side?

    No, They have never moved. They have always
    been where they are.

    Mitchell Raemsch

    Instead of drifting there is coastal change being measured.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Wed Aug 16 16:59:11 2023
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:

    <snip old crap>
    Instead of drifting there is coastal change being measured.
    No, you blithering moron, there is both continent drift and coastal
    change being measured.

    What is the difference? They would be a mix.
    No. Only one is real and that is not drift.

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Wed Aug 16 17:47:06 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:

    <snip old crap>
    Instead of drifting there is coastal change being measured.
    No, you blithering moron, there is both continent drift and coastal
    change being measured.

    What is the difference? They would be a mix.
    No. Only one is real and that is not drift.

    How did you get to be so blazingly stupid, moron?

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Thu Aug 17 10:49:43 2023
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 6:01:12 PM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:

    <snip old crap>
    Instead of drifting there is coastal change being measured.
    No, you blithering moron, there is both continent drift and coastal
    change being measured.

    What is the difference? They would be a mix.
    No. Only one is real and that is not drift.

    Pangea didn't form only to unform...
    Continents formed where they are now.
    If they drift they will end up a jumble on the
    other side....

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu Aug 17 14:35:41 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 6:01:12 PM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:46:10 AM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:

    <snip old crap>
    Instead of drifting there is coastal change being measured.
    No, you blithering moron, there is both continent drift and coastal
    change being measured.

    What is the difference? They would be a mix.
    No. Only one is real and that is not drift.

    Pangea didn't form only to unform...
    Continents formed where they are now.
    If they drift they will end up a jumble on the
    other side....

    Other side of what, moron?

    What made you so blazingly stupid?

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu Aug 17 19:27:40 2023
    On 8/17/2023 1:49 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    If they drift they will end up a jumble on the
    other side....

    Which they surely will, Roy. Call it New Pangaea or NewPangaea if you
    wish. And even later it, too, will break up.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Volney on Thu Aug 17 17:32:31 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/17/2023 1:49 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    If they drift they will end up a jumble on the
    other side....
    Which they surely will, Roy. Call it New Pangaea or NewPangaea if you
    wish. And even later it, too, will break up.

    How are the different continents pushed apart in several directions?
    by the same push source? No. That does not even exist.
    That push would have to be in multiple directions.
    How does one source of push give many different directions?
    They have never been pushed. They formed at the beginning instead.
    Coastal change has always existed. Not a special push...

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu Aug 17 19:32:39 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/17/2023 1:49 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    If they drift they will end up a jumble on the
    other side....
    Which they surely will, Roy. Call it New Pangaea or NewPangaea if you
    wish. And even later it, too, will break up.

    How are the different continents pushed apart in several directions?
    by the same push source? No. That does not even exist.
    That push would have to be in multiple directions.
    How does one source of push give many different directions?
    They have never been pushed. They formed at the beginning instead.
    Coastal change has always existed. Not a special push...

    How did you get to be so blazingly stupid?

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Thu Aug 17 20:42:29 2023
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:46:20 PM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/17/2023 1:49 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    If they drift they will end up a jumble on the
    other side....
    Which they surely will, Roy. Call it New Pangaea or NewPangaea if you
    wish. And even later it, too, will break up.

    How are the different continents pushed apart in several directions?
    by the same push source? No. That does not even exist.
    That push would have to be in multiple directions.
    How does one source of push give many different directions?
    They have never been pushed. They formed at the beginning instead.
    Coastal change has always existed. Not a special push...
    How did you get to be so blazingly stupid?

    You are a parrot jim. Stop following me around.

    That is what is stupid.

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu Aug 17 23:46:31 2023
    On 8/17/2023 8:32 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/17/2023 1:49 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    If they drift they will end up a jumble on the
    other side....
    Which they surely will, Roy. Call it New Pangaea or NewPangaea if you
    wish. And even later it, too, will break up.

    How are the different continents pushed apart in several directions?
    by the same push source? No.

    Who said there was only one source of motion, Roy? I said the motion is
    caused by convection currentS in the mantle.

    Even if there was only one, a rising current would spread out in all
    directions when it reached the top of the mantle.

    That push would have to be in multiple directions.

    And it is.

    How does one source of push give many different directions?

    Who said there was only one convection current, Roy? Not I.

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Fri Aug 18 06:20:56 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:46:20 PM UTC-7, Jim Pennino wrote:
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchr...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 4:27:48 PM UTC-7, Volney wrote:
    On 8/17/2023 1:49 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    If they drift they will end up a jumble on the
    other side....
    Which they surely will, Roy. Call it New Pangaea or NewPangaea if you
    wish. And even later it, too, will break up.

    How are the different continents pushed apart in several directions?
    by the same push source? No. That does not even exist.
    That push would have to be in multiple directions.
    How does one source of push give many different directions?
    They have never been pushed. They formed at the beginning instead.
    Coastal change has always existed. Not a special push...
    How did you get to be so blazingly stupid?

    You are a parrot jim. Stop following me around.

    That is what is stupid.

    You are a babbling idiot posting word salad nonsense and a complete
    moron.

    For 19 years you have been asking why the Moon is red during an eclipse, something a 5th grader can understand, yet you keep asking year after
    year and the answer never sinks into your feeble brain.

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