• Re: It only took one glimpse...

    From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to patdolan on Sat Aug 5 09:29:36 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    patdolan wrote:

    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:51:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:32 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:12:12 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:10 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 6:39:34 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
    ...through a new space telescope to destroy 60 years of Big Bang theory.

    I like an absolute beginning that is of empty dimension.
    I thought that God was always there. There was no absolute beginning. >>> Gravity comes later with the beginning of material astronomical forms. >>> The problem with a singularity is its infinite gravity
    is in the way of beginning the universe.
    Atoms can split but how can singularities?


    For us there was. Only we have an absolute beginning.
    Not Him. He transcends creating.


    So, basically we cannot ask God _when_ we were created because it might have no sense of time in a sense. Simply due to the fact that it was
    always there. No beginning for him.

    1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

    It was pointed out to me that God created light before he created the first light source. There is something for physics to chew on in that historic fact.

    Before the big bang...Stars always existed.


    You can still see with the naked eye remenants of those stars that
    existed before the big bang. The Big Dipper.


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Aug 5 10:16:51 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    patdolan wrote:

    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:51:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:32 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:12:12 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:10 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 6:39:34 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
    ...through a new space telescope to destroy 60 years of Big Bang theory.

    I like an absolute beginning that is of empty dimension.
    I thought that God was always there. There was no absolute beginning. >>> Gravity comes later with the beginning of material astronomical forms.
    The problem with a singularity is its infinite gravity
    is in the way of beginning the universe.
    Atoms can split but how can singularities?


    For us there was. Only we have an absolute beginning.
    Not Him. He transcends creating.


    So, basically we cannot ask God _when_ we were created because it might have no sense of time in a sense. Simply due to the fact that it was always there. No beginning for him.

    1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

    It was pointed out to me that God created light before he created the first light source. There is something for physics to chew on in that historic fact.

    Before the big bang...Stars always existed.

    You can still see with the naked eye remenants of those stars that
    existed before the big bang. The Big Dipper.


    Now...if you look at the little dipper...it begins to form a pattern.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Aug 5 13:57:03 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    patdolan wrote:

    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:51:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:32 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:12:12 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:10 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 6:39:34 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote: >>>> ...through a new space telescope to destroy 60 years of Big Bang theory.

    I like an absolute beginning that is of empty dimension.
    I thought that God was always there. There was no absolute beginning.
    Gravity comes later with the beginning of material astronomical forms.
    The problem with a singularity is its infinite gravity
    is in the way of beginning the universe.
    Atoms can split but how can singularities?


    For us there was. Only we have an absolute beginning.
    Not Him. He transcends creating.


    So, basically we cannot ask God _when_ we were created because it might have no sense of time in a sense. Simply due to the fact that it was always there. No beginning for him.

    1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

    It was pointed out to me that God created light before he created the first light source. There is something for physics to chew on in that historic fact.

    Before the big bang...Stars always existed.

    You can still see with the naked eye remenants of those stars that
    existed before the big bang. The Big Dipper.

    Now...if you look at the little dipper...it begins to form a pattern.

    i do have to warn you...don't let the names dippers throw you off, it's
    not a dipper.


    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sat Aug 5 20:13:32 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    patdolan wrote:

    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:51:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:32 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:12:12 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:10 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 6:39:34 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote: >>>> ...through a new space telescope to destroy 60 years of Big Bang theory.

    I like an absolute beginning that is of empty dimension.
    I thought that God was always there. There was no absolute beginning.
    Gravity comes later with the beginning of material astronomical forms.
    The problem with a singularity is its infinite gravity
    is in the way of beginning the universe.
    Atoms can split but how can singularities?


    For us there was. Only we have an absolute beginning.
    Not Him. He transcends creating.


    So, basically we cannot ask God _when_ we were created because it might
    have no sense of time in a sense. Simply due to the fact that it was always there. No beginning for him.

    1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

    It was pointed out to me that God created light before he created the first light source. There is something for physics to chew on in that historic fact.

    Before the big bang...Stars always existed.

    You can still see with the naked eye remenants of those stars that existed before the big bang. The Big Dipper.

    Now...if you look at the little dipper...it begins to form a pattern.

    i do have to warn you...don't let the names dippers throw you off, it's
    not a dipper.

    Let me put it in another way...


    If you took a peek at what it looks like Before the big bang...
    then you can understand today's arrangement of the stars.

    All stars were arranged line the big dipper, but without the handle.

    The handle is simply a spread out version of the big dipper without a handle.


    All stars before the big bang simply looked like this:



    . .

    . .














    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Sun Aug 6 11:39:29 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    The Starmaker wrote:

    patdolan wrote:

    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:51:05 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:32 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 9:12:12 PM UTC-7, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
    On 8/4/2023 9:10 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 6:39:34 PM UTC-7, patdolan wrote:
    ...through a new space telescope to destroy 60 years of Big Bang theory.

    I like an absolute beginning that is of empty dimension.
    I thought that God was always there. There was no absolute beginning.
    Gravity comes later with the beginning of material astronomical forms.
    The problem with a singularity is its infinite gravity
    is in the way of beginning the universe.
    Atoms can split but how can singularities?


    For us there was. Only we have an absolute beginning.
    Not Him. He transcends creating.


    So, basically we cannot ask God _when_ we were created because it might
    have no sense of time in a sense. Simply due to the fact that it was
    always there. No beginning for him.

    1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

    3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

    It was pointed out to me that God created light before he created the first light source. There is something for physics to chew on in that historic fact.

    Before the big bang...Stars always existed.

    You can still see with the naked eye remenants of those stars that existed before the big bang. The Big Dipper.

    Now...if you look at the little dipper...it begins to form a pattern.

    i do have to warn you...don't let the names dippers throw you off, it's
    not a dipper.

    Let me put it in another way...

    If you took a peek at what it looks like Before the big bang...
    then you can understand today's arrangement of the stars.

    All stars were arranged line the big dipper, but without the handle.

    The handle is simply a spread out version of the big dipper without a handle.

    All stars before the big bang simply looked like this:

    . .

    . .



    All stars before the big bang were in order...


    . . . . . . .



    . . . . . . .



    . . . . . . .



    Now, in the explosion they simply spread apart..



    . .


    . .

    .

    .

    .





    The Starmaker






    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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