• Gravity waves moving at the speed of light limit?

    From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 7 18:37:25 2023
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Wed Mar 8 14:18:55 2023
    On 08-Mar-23 1:37 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch

    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Tue Mar 7 21:05:40 2023
    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 08-Mar-23 1:37 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch

    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.

    Pulled out of his butt like everything else he posts.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Wed Mar 8 10:08:32 2023
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:19:00 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 08-Mar-23 1:37 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.

    Then how many feet is it?
    How does the detector distort at light speed?
    over the smallest plank like time event?
    How do we measure that fastest event?
    Science is measuring noise instead
    that would always be around.

    No. We are not measuring gravity waves.
    What is there geometry?

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu Mar 9 11:49:13 2023
    On 09-Mar-23 5:08 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:19:00 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 08-Mar-23 1:37 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.

    Then how many feet is it?
    How does the detector distort at light speed?
    over the smallest plank like time event?
    How do we measure that fastest event?
    Science is measuring noise instead
    that would always be around.

    No. We are not measuring gravity waves.
    What is there geometry?

    Mitchell Raemsch

    Wouldn't it make sense for you to do some basic searches on how gravity
    waves are detected before trying to argue that it is not possible?

    Sylvia.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Wed Mar 8 17:53:52 2023
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:49:19 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 09-Mar-23 5:08 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:19:00 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 08-Mar-23 1:37 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.

    Then how many feet is it?
    How does the detector distort at light speed?
    over the smallest plank like time event?
    How do we measure that fastest event?
    Science is measuring noise instead
    that would always be around.

    No. We are not measuring gravity waves.
    What is there geometry?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Wouldn't it make sense for you to do some basic searches on how gravity waves are detected before trying to argue that it is not possible?

    Sylvia.

    Is there not a detector sylvia?
    Was is difficult about that?
    They are measuring noise instead by it.
    If they move at light speed they would
    be too fast to be measured.
    Can you answer to what their geometry is?
    If you don't know that you have no
    argument.


    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Thu Mar 9 10:31:29 2023
    On 3/8/2023 8:53 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:49:19 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 09-Mar-23 5:08 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:19:00 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 08-Mar-23 1:37 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.

    Then how many feet is it?
    How does the detector distort at light speed?
    over the smallest plank like time event?
    How do we measure that fastest event?
    Science is measuring noise instead
    that would always be around.

    No. We are not measuring gravity waves.
    What is there geometry?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Wouldn't it make sense for you to do some basic searches on how gravity
    waves are detected before trying to argue that it is not possible?

    Sylvia.

    Is there not a detector sylvia?

    Did you search for that on Google, Roy?

    Was is difficult about that?

    English, not gibberish, please.

    They are measuring noise instead by it.

    And you know this, just how?

    If they move at light speed they would
    be too fast to be measured.

    Does that mean you can't see because light moves at the speed of light?

    Can you answer to what their geometry is?

    Can you google that?

    If you don't know that you have no
    argument.

    Since you don't know (anything!) it is you who has no argument.

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Volney on Thu Mar 9 10:48:33 2023
    On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:31:32 AM UTC-8, Volney wrote:
    On 3/8/2023 8:53 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:49:19 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 09-Mar-23 5:08 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:19:00 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 08-Mar-23 1:37 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.

    Then how many feet is it?
    How does the detector distort at light speed?
    over the smallest plank like time event?
    How do we measure that fastest event?
    Science is measuring noise instead
    that would always be around.

    No. We are not measuring gravity waves.
    What is there geometry?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Wouldn't it make sense for you to do some basic searches on how gravity >> waves are detected before trying to argue that it is not possible?

    Sylvia.

    Is there not a detector sylvia?
    Did you search for that on Google, Roy?
    Was is difficult about that?
    English, not gibberish, please.
    They are measuring noise instead by it.
    And you know this, just how?
    If they move at light speed they would
    be too fast to be measured.
    Does that mean you can't see because light moves at the speed of light?
    That event is too short to measure...
    Can you answer to what their geometry is?
    Can you google that?

    Can you give an answer?
    If you can't address it how can you win?
    Go back to google you loser...
    or show your argument...

    If you don't know that you have no
    argument.
    Since you don't know (anything!) it is you who has no argument.
    I know gravity waves don't exist. Noise does.
    It always has.

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From edprochak@gmail.com@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Fri Mar 10 08:03:09 2023
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 1:08:35 PM UTC-5, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: []
    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.
    Then how many feet is it?

    Hi Michelle,

    Well to give you a ballpark estimate, the detector arms of LIGO are each 4km long.
    Learn more at
    https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/

    Enjoy,
    Ed

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to edpr...@gmail.com on Fri Mar 10 10:41:43 2023
    On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, edpr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 1:08:35 PM UTC-5, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    []
    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.
    Then how many feet is it?
    Hi Michelle,

    Well to give you a ballpark estimate, the detector arms of LIGO are each 4km long.
    Learn more at
    https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/

    Enjoy,
    Ed

    Its a ligo fake. How do they know it is not noise?
    And what is the duration of the measurement
    if it happens at the speed of light?

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Fri Mar 10 17:23:58 2023
    On 3/9/2023 1:48 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:31:32 AM UTC-8, Volney wrote:
    On 3/8/2023 8:53 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:49:19 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
    On 09-Mar-23 5:08 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:19:00 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>> On 08-Mar-23 1:37 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.

    Then how many feet is it?
    How does the detector distort at light speed?
    over the smallest plank like time event?
    How do we measure that fastest event?
    Science is measuring noise instead
    that would always be around.

    No. We are not measuring gravity waves.
    What is there geometry?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Wouldn't it make sense for you to do some basic searches on how gravity >>>> waves are detected before trying to argue that it is not possible?

    Sylvia.

    Is there not a detector sylvia?
    Did you search for that on Google, Roy?
    Was is difficult about that?
    English, not gibberish, please.
    They are measuring noise instead by it.
    And you know this, just how?
    If they move at light speed they would
    be too fast to be measured.
    Does that mean you can't see because light moves at the speed of light?

    That event is too short to measure...

    Does that mean you can't see because the time for light to cross your
    eyeballs is too short to measure? How are you able to read responses?

    Can you answer to what their geometry is?
    Can you google that?

    Can you give an answer?

    Why yes, I can!

    If you can't address it how can you win?

    What's this about winning, other than you're the big loser around here?

    If you don't know that you have no
    argument.
    Since you don't know (anything!) it is you who has no argument.

    I know gravity waves don't exist. Noise does.

    How do you "know" gravity waves don't exist? You pulled that from your butt?

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Volney on Fri Mar 10 16:18:11 2023
    On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 2:24:04 PM UTC-8, Volney wrote:
    On 3/9/2023 1:48 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:31:32 AM UTC-8, Volney wrote:
    On 3/8/2023 8:53 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:49:19 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> On 09-Mar-23 5:08 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 7:19:00 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>> On 08-Mar-23 1:37 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    how can science measure an event over with
    in too short of time? Light speed over
    a couple of feet would be too small in time
    to measure. Noise is always present.
    You can measure that but not a gravity
    wave event.

    What is the geometry of a gravity wave?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Where did you get "a couple of feet" from?

    Sylvia.

    Then how many feet is it?
    How does the detector distort at light speed?
    over the smallest plank like time event?
    How do we measure that fastest event?
    Science is measuring noise instead
    that would always be around.

    No. We are not measuring gravity waves.
    What is there geometry?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Wouldn't it make sense for you to do some basic searches on how gravity >>>> waves are detected before trying to argue that it is not possible?

    Sylvia.

    Is there not a detector sylvia?
    Did you search for that on Google, Roy?
    Was is difficult about that?
    English, not gibberish, please.
    They are measuring noise instead by it.
    And you know this, just how?
    If they move at light speed they would
    be too fast to be measured.
    Does that mean you can't see because light moves at the speed of light?

    That event is too short to measure...
    Does that mean you can't see because the time for light to cross your eyeballs is too short to measure? How are you able to read responses?
    Can you answer to what their geometry is?
    Can you google that?

    Can you give an answer?
    Why yes, I can!

    Is that why you don't?
    Why is that?

    If you can't address it how can you win?
    What's this about winning, other than you're the big loser around here?
    If you don't know that you have no
    argument.
    Since you don't know (anything!) it is you who has no argument.

    I know gravity waves don't exist. Noise does.
    How do you "know" gravity waves don't exist? You pulled that from your butt?

    Ligo is a fake. Admitting it could be noise is their only honesty...

    Mitchell Raemsch

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat Mar 11 01:35:17 2023
    On 3/10/2023 7:18 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 2:24:04 PM UTC-8, Volney wrote:
    On 3/9/2023 1:48 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:31:32 AM UTC-8, Volney wrote:
    On 3/8/2023 8:53 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:49:19 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>> On 09-Mar-23 5:08 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

    Then how many feet is it?
    How does the detector distort at light speed?
    over the smallest plank like time event?
    How do we measure that fastest event?
    Science is measuring noise instead
    that would always be around.

    No. We are not measuring gravity waves.
    What is there geometry?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    Wouldn't it make sense for you to do some basic searches on how gravity >>>>>> waves are detected before trying to argue that it is not possible? >>>>>>
    Sylvia.

    Is there not a detector sylvia?
    Did you search for that on Google, Roy?
    Was is difficult about that?
    English, not gibberish, please.
    They are measuring noise instead by it.
    And you know this, just how?
    If they move at light speed they would
    be too fast to be measured.
    Does that mean you can't see because light moves at the speed of light?

    That event is too short to measure...
    Does that mean you can't see because the time for light to cross your
    eyeballs is too short to measure? How are you able to read responses?
    Can you answer to what their geometry is?
    Can you google that?

    Can you give an answer?

    Why yes, I can!

    Is that why you don't?
    Why is that?

    Just because I *can* give an answer doesn't mean I *will* give you an
    answer. You're just too lazy to google it yourself.
    Unless you want to pay. $200/hour, $500 minimum. In advance. I'm giving
    you the Usenet discount.

    I know gravity waves don't exist. Noise does.

    How do you "know" gravity waves don't exist? You pulled that from your butt?

    Ligo is a fake. Admitting it could be noise is their only honesty...

    And your evidence that it's noise is what?

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  • From edprochak@gmail.com@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Sat Mar 11 08:23:59 2023
    On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-5, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, edpr...@gmail.com wrote:
    []
    Hi Michelle,

    Well to give you a ballpark estimate, the detector arms of LIGO are each 4km long.
    Learn more at
    https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/

    Enjoy,
    Ed
    Its a ligo fake. How do they know it is not noise?

    Multiple detectors. There are two detectors as part of LIGO plus the VIRGO facility. To find exactly the same noise at all three locations multiple times is astronomically unlikely.


    And what is the duration of the measurement
    if it happens at the speed of light?

    Mitchell Raemsch

    You are reading this post with light traveling at the speed of light.
    What is the duration of your observation? You really either
    totally do not understand any physics OR
    are a troll specifically posting nonsense questions.

    I prefer to think you are a misunderstanding little girl, Michelle.

    have a nice day.
    Ed

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to edpr...@gmail.com on Sat Mar 11 09:49:11 2023
    On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 8:24:02 AM UTC-8, edpr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 1:41:46 PM UTC-5, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 8:03:13 AM UTC-8, edpr...@gmail.com wrote:
    []
    Hi Michelle,

    Well to give you a ballpark estimate, the detector arms of LIGO are each 4km long.
    Learn more at
    https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/

    Enjoy,
    Ed
    Its a ligo fake. How do they know it is not noise?
    Multiple detectors. There are two detectors as part of LIGO plus the VIRGO facility. To find exactly the same noise at all three locations multiple times
    is astronomically unlikely.

    There is always noise. By What do you mean multiple times?
    Why would there be more than one?
    No. There are no gravity waves.
    What would their geometry be?
    What is the geometry of gravity?
    Geometry disproves waves.
    Einstein himself took back his
    gravity wave proposal. He only
    believed in a field that does not
    break off.

    Mitchell Raemsch

    And what is the duration of the measurement
    if it happens at the speed of light?

    Mitchell Raemsch
    You are reading this post with light traveling at the speed of light.
    What is the duration of your observation? You really either
    totally do not understand any physics OR
    are a troll specifically posting nonsense questions.

    I prefer to think you are a misunderstanding little girl, Michelle.

    have a nice day.
    Ed

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