• The Root of All the Evil in Physics

    From Pentcho Valev@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 20 03:33:04 2023
    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All
    these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250 http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-
    Speculation/dp/0738205257

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian." https://
    pirsa.org/16060116?t=3211

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way." https://youtu.be/
    kbHBBtsrU1g?t=1431

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse without it. In
    this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2-equality-it-seems-is-relative.html

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light is
    embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels." http://www.thegreatdebate.org.uk/VSLRevPrnt.html

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the speed of light
    without wrecking the whole thing too much." https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8q87gk/light-speed-slowed

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Mon Feb 20 09:27:17 2023
    Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:
    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All
    these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250 http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-
    Speculation/dp/0738205257

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian." https://
    pirsa.org/16060116?t=3211

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way." https://youtu.be/
    kbHBBtsrU1g?t=1431

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood.


    That the speed of light is a constant has been confirmed by innumerable experiments crackpot.

    Where is your experiment that would indicate otherwise and get you a
    Nobel prise crackpot?

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  • From Pentcho Valev@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 20 12:43:27 2023
    In devising his theory of special relativity, Einstein abandoned the particle model of light implying variable speed of light as per Newton, and "borrowed" from the ether theory a continuous-field model of light implying constant speed of light:

    "The two first articles (January and March) establish clearly a discontinuous structure of matter and light. The standard look of Einstein's SR is, on the contrary, essentially based on the continuous conception of the field." http://arxiv.org/ftp/
    physics/papers/0101/0101109.pdf

    "Einstein's March paper treated light as particles, but special relativity sees light as a continuous field of waves." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/genius/

    Banesh Hoffmann, Relativity and Its Roots, p.92: "Moreover, if light consists of particles, as Einstein had suggested in his paper submitted just thirteen weeks before this one, the second principle seems absurd: A stone thrown from a speeding train can
    do far more damage than one thrown from a train at rest; the speed of the particle is not independent of the motion of the object emitting it. And if we take light to consist of particles and assume that these particles obey Newton's laws, they will
    conform to Newtonian relativity and thus automatically account for the null result of the Michelson-Morley experiment without recourse to contracting lengths, local time, or Lorentz transformations. Yet, as we have seen, Einstein resisted the temptation
    to account for the null result in terms of particles of light and simple, familiar Newtonian ideas, and introduced as his second postulate something that was more or less obvious when thought of in terms of waves in an ether. If it was so obvious, though,
    why did he need to state it as a principle? Because, having taken from the idea of light waves in the ether the one aspect that he needed, he declared early in his paper, to quote his own words, that "the introduction of a 'luminiferous ether' will
    prove to be superfluous." https://www.amazon.com/Relativity-Its-Roots-Banesh-Hoffmann/dp/0486406768

    Albert Einstein: "I introduced the principle of the constancy of the velocity of light, which I borrowed from H. A. Lorentz's theory of the stationary luminiferous ether." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory

    Then, one year before his death, Einstein realized that the continuous-field model of light, by lending physics its tenet, the constancy of the speed of light, had actually killed this branch of science:

    Albert Einstein (1954): "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures. Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the theory of gravitation, but also nothing
    of the rest of contemporary physics." John Stachel, Einstein from 'B' to 'Z', p. 151 https://www.amazon.com/Einstein-B-Z-John-Stachel/dp/0817641432

    More here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

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  • From mitchrae3323@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Mon Feb 20 14:20:13 2023
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:16:09 PM UTC-8, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    In devising his theory of special relativity, Einstein abandoned the particle model of light implying variable speed of light as per Newton, and "borrowed" from the ether theory a continuous-field model of light implying constant speed of light:
    It doesn't matter at this point in time what Einstein thought about
    while developing his theories as the finished product has been confirmed innumerable times by innumerable experiments crackpot.

    That you are unable to understand the dual nature of light is your
    problem crackpot.

    Einstein didn't need relativity. He had an alternative that had no contradictions.
    He called it closing velocity theory. Everything has its own motion and
    obeys the speed limit. Motion can converge and diverge on its self
    each of two sides obeying the universe's speed limit.

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Mon Feb 20 14:12:41 2023
    Pentcho Valev <pvalev@yahoo.com> wrote:
    In devising his theory of special relativity, Einstein abandoned the particle model of light implying variable speed of light as per Newton, and "borrowed" from the ether theory a continuous-field model of light implying constant speed of light:

    It doesn't matter at this point in time what Einstein thought about
    while developing his theories as the finished product has been confirmed innumerable times by innumerable experiments crackpot.

    That you are unable to understand the dual nature of light is your
    problem crackpot.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to whodat on Tue Feb 21 21:03:29 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 3:51 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/20/2023 10:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Pentcho Valev wrote:

    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF
    ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p.

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian."

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way."

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse
    without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light
    is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels."

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the
    speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much."

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

    There is no vacum so there is no speed of light contancy.


    Vacums do not exist.

    You're right, but vacuum does.

    Where is the vacuum?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    I get it, you don't know what a vacuum is either.

    Here is the definition of "vacuum":


    a space entirely devoid of matter.
    synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, >>> voidness, nihility

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum >>>

    Now, show me where is this 'space entirely devoid of matter' located at? >>
    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    Learn how to say "I don't know."

    Are you being silly, or stupid, or both. I know but I refuse to
    play your silly stupid little game. And that's all you're about
    here in the sci newsgroups.


    The fact is, you made the claim that 'vacuum exist'. But have not shown
    that in fact it exist.

    The fact is, 'no one on earth can produce such a space that is
    completely empty of matter.'


    you don't walk the walk, you don't even talk it.




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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Tue Feb 21 21:08:01 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    The Starmaker wrote:

    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/20/2023 10:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Pentcho Valev wrote:

    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL
    RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian."

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way."

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse without
    it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2-e

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light
    is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels."

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the speed
    of light without wrecking the whole thing too much."

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

    There is no vacum so there is no speed of light contancy.


    Vacums do not exist.

    You're right, but vacuum does.

    Where is the vacuum?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    I get it, you don't know what a vacuum is either.

    Here is the definition of "vacuum":

    a space entirely devoid of matter.
    synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum

    Now, show me where is this 'space entirely devoid of matter' located at?

    In other words, Albert Einstein's claim about the speed of light..'in a
    vacuum' is a ...fake.


    Just another of Albert Einstein's fake science.








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    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

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  • From Arindam Banerjee@21:1/5 to Pentcho Valev on Tue Feb 21 21:25:44 2023
    On Monday, 20 February 2023 at 17:03:07 UTC+5:30, Pentcho Valev wrote:
    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All
    these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250 http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-
    Speculation/dp/0738205257

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian." https://
    pirsa.org/16060116?t=3211

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way." https://youtu.be/
    kbHBBtsrU1g?t=1431

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse without it. In
    this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2-equality-it-seems-is-relative.html

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light is
    embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels." http://www.thegreatdebate.org.uk/VSLRevPrnt.html

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the speed of
    light without wrecking the whole thing too much." https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8q87gk/light-speed-slowed

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

    Actually the root cause of all evil in physics is entropy along with the outdated and wrong laws of thermodynamics.

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Feb 22 00:37:26 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/21/2023 11:08 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    The Starmaker wrote:

    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/20/2023 10:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Pentcho Valev wrote:

    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY
    SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian."

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way."

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse without
    it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2-e

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light is
    embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels."

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the speed
    of light without wrecking the whole thing too much."

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

    There is no vacum so there is no speed of light contancy.


    Vacums do not exist.

    You're right, but vacuum does.

    Where is the vacuum?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    I get it, you don't know what a vacuum is either.

    Here is the definition of "vacuum":

    a space entirely devoid of matter.
    synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy,
    voidness, nihility

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum

    Now, show me where is this 'space entirely devoid of matter' located at?

    In other words, Albert Einstein's claim about the speed of light..'in a vacuum' is a ...fake.


    Just another of Albert Einstein's fake science.

    Here once again you don't understand the concepts.

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Feb 22 00:35:25 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/21/2023 11:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 3:51 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/20/2023 10:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Pentcho Valev wrote:

    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or
    Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity." Joao
    Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p.

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian."

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way."

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse
    without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light
    is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels."

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the
    speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much."

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

    There is no vacum so there is no speed of light contancy.


    Vacums do not exist.

    You're right, but vacuum does.

    Where is the vacuum?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    I get it, you don't know what a vacuum is either.

    Here is the definition of "vacuum":


    a space entirely devoid of matter.
    synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, >>>>> voidness, nihility

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum >>>>>

    Now, show me where is this 'space entirely devoid of matter' located at? >>>>
    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    Learn how to say "I don't know."

    Are you being silly, or stupid, or both. I know but I refuse to
    play your silly stupid little game. And that's all you're about
    here in the sci newsgroups.


    The fact is, you made the claim that 'vacuum exist'.

    I never made any claims, I merely corrected your spelling.

    But have not shown
    that in fact it exist.

    The fact is, 'no one on earth can produce such a space that is
    completely empty of matter.'


    you don't walk the walk, you don't even talk it.

    You're not smart enough to understand that there are no absolutes
    in science, so you play these silly stupid little games hopeful
    that someone will bite. When nobody does, you make believe they
    have as you do above. Get over yourself already.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to whodat on Wed Feb 22 00:14:25 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 11:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 3:51 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/20/2023 10:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Pentcho Valev wrote:

    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington
    or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativit

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian."

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way."

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse
    without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-m

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of
    light is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels."

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the
    speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much."

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

    There is no vacum so there is no speed of light contancy.


    Vacums do not exist.

    You're right, but vacuum does.

    Where is the vacuum?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    I get it, you don't know what a vacuum is either.

    Here is the definition of "vacuum":


    a space entirely devoid of matter.
    synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, >>>>> voidness, nihility

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum >>>>>

    Now, show me where is this 'space entirely devoid of matter' located at?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    Learn how to say "I don't know."

    Are you being silly, or stupid, or both. I know but I refuse to
    play your silly stupid little game. And that's all you're about
    here in the sci newsgroups.


    The fact is, you made the claim that 'vacuum exist'.

    I never made any claims, I merely corrected your spelling.


    You wrote: "You're right, but vacuum does."


    so you have a short memory too?



    But have not shown
    that in fact it exist.

    The fact is, 'no one on earth can produce such a space that is
    completely empty of matter.'


    you don't walk the walk, you don't even talk it.

    You're not smart enough to understand that there are no absolutes
    in science, so you play these silly stupid little games hopeful
    that someone will bite. When nobody does, you make believe they
    have as you do above. Get over yourself already.

    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to mitchr...@gmail.com on Wed Feb 22 05:25:03 2023
    mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:16:09 PM UTC-8, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    In devising his theory of special relativity, Einstein abandoned the particle model of light implying variable speed of light as per Newton, and "borrowed" from the ether theory a continuous-field model of light implying constant speed of light:
    It doesn't matter at this point in time what Einstein thought about
    while developing his theories as the finished product has been confirmed
    innumerable times by innumerable experiments crackpot.

    That you are unable to understand the dual nature of light is your
    problem crackpot.

    Einstein didn't need relativity. He had an alternative that had no contradictions.
    He called it closing velocity theory. Everything has its own motion and
    obeys the speed limit. Motion can converge and diverge on its self
    each of two sides obeying the universe's speed limit.


    Gibberish.

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  • From Solving Tornadoes@21:1/5 to Jim Pennino on Wed Feb 22 07:16:33 2023
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:16:09 PM UTC-8, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    In devising his theory of special relativity, Einstein abandoned the particle model of light implying variable speed of light as per Newton, and "borrowed" from the ether theory a continuous-field model of light implying constant speed of light:
    It doesn't matter at this point in time what Einstein thought about
    while developing his theories as the finished product has been confirmed innumerable times by innumerable experiments crackpot.

    That you are unable to understand the dual nature of light is your
    problem crackpot.

    Uh, er, that is because it is fundamentally incomprehensible, moron--in principle.

    Why do you keep responding when you obviously don't have a clue about any of this.

    James McGinn / Genius

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  • From Jim Pennino@21:1/5 to Solving Tornadoes on Wed Feb 22 07:38:00 2023
    Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 2:16:09 PM UTC-8, Jim Pennino wrote:
    Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    In devising his theory of special relativity, Einstein abandoned the particle model of light implying variable speed of light as per Newton, and "borrowed" from the ether theory a continuous-field model of light implying constant speed of light:
    It doesn't matter at this point in time what Einstein thought about
    while developing his theories as the finished product has been confirmed
    innumerable times by innumerable experiments crackpot.

    That you are unable to understand the dual nature of light is your
    problem crackpot.

    Uh, er, that is because it is fundamentally incomprehensible, moron--in principle.

    Only to crackpots.


    Why do you keep responding when you obviously don't have a clue about any of this.

    Says the delusionally insane crackpot that is terrified of reading any
    books, including dictionaries, because the contents threaten his
    delusions.


    James McGinn / Delusionally Insane Crackpot


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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Wed Feb 22 16:13:02 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/22/2023 2:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 11:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 3:51 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/20/2023 10:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Pentcho Valev wrote:

    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafÃÆ’Æ’ÃÆâ€
    ™Ãƒâ€ Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚©s in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well
    known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativit

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian."

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way."

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse
    without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-m

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of
    light is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels."

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the
    speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much."

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

    There is no vacum so there is no speed of light contancy. >>>>>>>>>>>

    Vacums do not exist.

    You're right, but vacuum does.

    Where is the vacuum?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    I get it, you don't know what a vacuum is either.

    Here is the definition of "vacuum":


    a space entirely devoid of matter.
    synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, >>>>>>> voidness, nihility

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum >>>>>>>

    Now, show me where is this 'space entirely devoid of matter' located at?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    Learn how to say "I don't know."

    Are you being silly, or stupid, or both. I know but I refuse to
    play your silly stupid little game. And that's all you're about
    here in the sci newsgroups.


    The fact is, you made the claim that 'vacuum exist'.

    I never made any claims, I merely corrected your spelling.


    You wrote: "You're right, but vacuum does."


    so you have a short memory too?

    Apparently things I don't consider worthy of arguing you do. I was
    actually addressing the existence of a valid word, but you took that
    to mean the represented entity. Let's proceed from there.
    Just to point out how stupid you are, how large does a vacuum have to
    be in order to exist? Given the essential that size doesn't matter,
    where it comes to proving whether or not something exists, prove to the readership of this newsgroup that a vacuum (sub-sub-quark size) does not
    exist.

    Be careful of a logical trap:

    "Proving a negative or negative proof may refer to: ... Sometimes
    it is mistaken for an argument from ignorance, which is non-proof
    and a logical fallacy"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proving_a_negative

    I will be pleasantly surprised if you don't step into a logical trap.
    There are a lot of readers and lurkers hopeful that you will.

    You're welcome to pursue this while I reassure you and anyone following
    this thread that I only claimed the word "vacuum" exists. That has not
    changed but you're welcome to hoist yourself by your own petard, you
    do it so well to the merriment of many.

    But have not shown
    that in fact it exist.

    My claim was correct, the word "vacuum" is legitimate and it does
    exist. "Vacum" is not a legitimate word thus for all practical
    purposes does not exist.

    The fact is, 'no one on earth can produce such a space that is
    completely empty of matter.'

    I refer you to Mitch where it comes to the creation of things.

    In the meanwhile humans do not produce anything that could be
    considered a feature of nature. Countless examples of natural
    phenomena exist, none of them (with the exception of a handful
    of artificially created elements of very short duration) are
    created by humans. "Is no my job, man!"

    Then too there is a legitimate question whether or not something
    that has a complete life well below the detection ability of
    humans actually exists. It becomes a matter of definition. What
    is real, after all.

    Keep playing around in the murky region around things that may
    exist and things that do not and you'll soon find yourself
    injuring yourself.

    Back to the core issue, you're still just the punk sitting in
    the back of the classroom cutting up and already I'm sorry for
    having wasted my time on you. Your game is to take things that
    live in a spectrum of full color and argue about them as pure
    black and white issues. You fail once again as you always do.

    Your mother should have chosen abortion.

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  • From The Starmaker@21:1/5 to whodat on Wed Feb 22 15:14:12 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    whodat wrote:

    On 2/22/2023 2:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 11:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 3:51 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/20/2023 10:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Pentcho Valev wrote:

    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafÃÆ’ÃÆ
    ’ƒâ€šÃ‚©s in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian.
    "

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way."

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse
    without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of
    light is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels."

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the
    speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much."

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

    There is no vacum so there is no speed of light contancy. >>>>>>>>>>>

    Vacums do not exist.

    You're right, but vacuum does.

    Where is the vacuum?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains? >>>>>>>
    I get it, you don't know what a vacuum is either.

    Here is the definition of "vacuum":


    a space entirely devoid of matter.
    synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy,
    voidness, nihility

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum


    Now, show me where is this 'space entirely devoid of matter' located at?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    Learn how to say "I don't know."

    Are you being silly, or stupid, or both. I know but I refuse to
    play your silly stupid little game. And that's all you're about
    here in the sci newsgroups.


    The fact is, you made the claim that 'vacuum exist'.

    I never made any claims, I merely corrected your spelling.


    You wrote: "You're right, but vacuum does."


    so you have a short memory too?

    Apparently things I don't consider worthy of arguing you do. I was
    actually addressing the existence of a valid word, but you took that
    to mean the represented entity. Let's proceed from there.
    Just to point out how stupid you are, how large does a vacuum have to
    be in order to exist? Given the essential that size doesn't matter,
    where it comes to proving whether or not something exists, prove to the readership of this newsgroup that a vacuum (sub-sub-quark size) does not exist.

    Be careful of a logical trap:

    "Proving a negative or negative proof may refer to: ... Sometimes
    it is mistaken for an argument from ignorance, which is non-proof
    and a logical fallacy"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proving_a_negative

    I will be pleasantly surprised if you don't step into a logical trap.
    There are a lot of readers and lurkers hopeful that you will.

    You're welcome to pursue this while I reassure you and anyone following
    this thread that I only claimed the word "vacuum" exists. That has not changed but you're welcome to hoist yourself by your own petard, you
    do it so well to the merriment of many.

    But have not shown
    that in fact it exist.

    My claim was correct, the word "vacuum" is legitimate and it does
    exist. "Vacum" is not a legitimate word thus for all practical
    purposes does not exist.


    So, let me get this straight... "vacuum" is a real word... but the
    meaning of the word doesn't exist???








    --
    The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
    to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
    and challenge
    the unchallengeable.

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    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From whodat@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Thu Feb 23 00:47:41 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/22/2023 5:14 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/22/2023 2:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 11:03 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 3:51 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/21/2023 12:57 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    On 2/20/2023 10:44 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    Pentcho Valev wrote:

    "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafÃÆ’ÃÆ
    ’ƒâ€ ’ÃÆ’‚ÃÃâ€
     Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚©s in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from

    "You want to go back to a notion of space-time that preceded the 20th century, and it wants to ignore the essential lessons about space-time that the 20th century has taught us." Joao Magueijo: "Yes, that's right. So it's nouveau-Newtonian.
    "

    Joao Magueijo, Niayesh Afshordi, Stephon Alexander: "So we have broken fundamentally this Lorentz invariance which equates space and time...It is the other postulate of relativity, that of constancy of c, that has to give way."

    The "root of all the evil" in physics is Einstein's 1905 constant-speed-of-light falsehood. Physicists know that, start telling the truth sometimes, but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the falsehood and would collapse
    without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

    "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and

    "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of
    light is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels."

    "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the
    speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much."

    See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

    Pentcho Valev

    There is no vacum so there is no speed of light contancy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Vacums do not exist.

    You're right, but vacuum does.

    Where is the vacuum?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains? >>>>>>>>>
    I get it, you don't know what a vacuum is either.

    Here is the definition of "vacuum":


    a space entirely devoid of matter.
    synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy,
    voidness, nihility

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum


    Now, show me where is this 'space entirely devoid of matter' located at?

    Back of the classroom cutup once again. Where are your brains?

    Learn how to say "I don't know."

    Are you being silly, or stupid, or both. I know but I refuse to
    play your silly stupid little game. And that's all you're about
    here in the sci newsgroups.


    The fact is, you made the claim that 'vacuum exist'.

    I never made any claims, I merely corrected your spelling.


    You wrote: "You're right, but vacuum does."


    so you have a short memory too?

    Apparently things I don't consider worthy of arguing you do. I was
    actually addressing the existence of a valid word, but you took that
    to mean the represented entity. Let's proceed from there.
    Just to point out how stupid you are, how large does a vacuum have to
    be in order to exist? Given the essential that size doesn't matter,
    where it comes to proving whether or not something exists, prove to the
    readership of this newsgroup that a vacuum (sub-sub-quark size) does not
    exist.

    Be careful of a logical trap:

    "Proving a negative or negative proof may refer to: ... Sometimes
    it is mistaken for an argument from ignorance, which is non-proof
    and a logical fallacy"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proving_a_negative

    I will be pleasantly surprised if you don't step into a logical trap.
    There are a lot of readers and lurkers hopeful that you will.

    You're welcome to pursue this while I reassure you and anyone following
    this thread that I only claimed the word "vacuum" exists. That has not
    changed but you're welcome to hoist yourself by your own petard, you
    do it so well to the merriment of many.

    But have not shown
    that in fact it exist.

    My claim was correct, the word "vacuum" is legitimate and it does
    exist. "Vacum" is not a legitimate word thus for all practical
    purposes does not exist.


    So, let me get this straight... "vacuum" is a real word... but the
    meaning of the word doesn't exist???

    This is your game and I've finished playing. I gave a rather complete
    input. I can't be bothered checking against my article to determine
    what, if anything, you've deleted. Ypu want the complete story read my
    original posting to which "Starmaker" is replying. Thanks.

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to The Starmaker on Thu Feb 23 16:42:55 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/22/2023 6:14 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    But have not shown
    that in fact it exist.

    My claim was correct, the word "vacuum" is legitimate and it does
    exist. "Vacum" is not a legitimate word thus for all practical
    purposes does not exist.


    So, let me get this straight... "vacuum" is a real word... but the
    meaning of the word doesn't exist???

    The word "unicorn" exists.
    Unicorns don't exist.

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  • From whodat@21:1/5 to Volney on Thu Feb 23 18:04:51 2023
    XPost: sci.physics.relativity

    On 2/23/2023 3:42 PM, Volney wrote:
    On 2/22/2023 6:14 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
    whodat wrote:

    But have not shown
    that in fact it exist.

    My claim was correct, the word "vacuum" is legitimate and it does
    exist. "Vacum" is not a legitimate word thus for all practical
    purposes does not exist.


    So, let me get this straight... "vacuum" is a real word... but the
    meaning of the word doesn't exist???

    The word "unicorn" exists.
    Unicorns don't exist.

    This was the guy who used to words "good" and "evil" while
    claiming those don't exist. He just cannot get past the
    back of the classroom cutup that he's always been.

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