• Theoretical Force carrying bosons

    From Volney@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 5 07:00:41 2024
    The four "forces" are electromagnetic, weak, strong and (possibly) gravitational. These forces have fields mediated by the bosons photon,
    W/Z, gluon and (theoretically) graviton respectively. At least some have 'charges' such that a particle with a nonzero charge will apply force to
    other charged particles via virtual boson interchange. The properties of
    the field depends on the spin of the mediating boson, the first three
    are spin-1 so have a vector to describe interactions, while the
    theoretical graviton is spin-2 and interactions are via the 2D
    stress-energy tensor.

    My question is, assume there is a massless (or very tiny mass, not
    massive like W/Z) boson with spin-0 which mediates a new force. Its
    field 'tensor' would be zero-dimensional or just a scalar. What would
    this mean on a macroscopic scale? I guess each point in space would have
    a simple value in response to a nearby charge, not a vector like EM.

    How about a spin-3 (or more!) boson? Spin-3 would imply a 3D tensor
    defining its field's properties. Again what macroscopic properties would
    a field mediated by a spin-3 boson have? I know this is vague since the
    only property is the spin of the mediating boson but this must imply
    certain properties come from this, but what?

    Also how are the number of charges defined? Emag has + and - quantized.
    The strong force seems to have 6 possible charges? (three 'colors' and
    three 'anticolors') Gravity seemingly has one, mass(energy). I read that
    weak charge exists, but it really can't provide a force because its
    massive bosons create an extremely short range. Is there some
    theoretical property that defines the number of charges?

    What causes a boson to be a force carrier/field quantization anyway?
    I've wondered if the Higgs boson could be the mediator of an extremely
    short ranged (because of its large mass) scalar 'force' and it seems
    that the Higgs-defined mass of particles could be its associated
    'charge'. Is this all nonsense?

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  • From Volney@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 2 20:12:19 2024
    Not very useful, nymshifter, please explain more about tensors if you can.

    Regarding tensors, since the spin of the boson corresponds to the
    dimensions of the associated field tensor (does anyone know why/how?),
    a spin 0 boson would have a zero dimensional scalar field (like
    temperature of points within a volume), spin 1 a vector with a
    direction, spin 3 and beyond would be quite interesting with 3+
    dimensional tensors. What would this look like in real life?

    Also how does spin 1 electromagnetism differ from (theoretical) spin-2
    gravity? I know gravity waves are depicted as stretching in one
    dimension while compressing at a right angle for a half cycle while emag jiggles back and forth but beyond that?

    [[Mod. note -- A "minor" nit-pick:

    The term "gravity waves" has been used for hundreds of years in physics
    to mean a wave propagating in matter in which the restoring forces are
    provided by bouyancy and gravity. E.g., ocean waves are this sort of
    gravity waves, as are pressure waves propagating in the atmospheres of
    planets and stars.

    The spin-2 "ripples in spacetime curvature" that we're talking about
    here are better called "gravitational waves". I've heard the slang
    term "gravy waves" for them, but this doesn't appear to be common
    usage.
    -- jt]]

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