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    From israel socratus@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 29 12:34:24 2021
    Is electron's “spin” real?
    Fact.
    In 1925, Samuel Goudsmit and George Uhlenbeck claimed that
    some of the mischievous features of the hydrogen spectrum could be
    successfully explained by assuming that electrons act as if they actually have a spin.
    Opinion.
    Because electron is spinning with a rotational velocity equivalent to the speed of light (which is practically impossible) the only conclusion is that an electron
    can’t spin about its own axis, and thus, spin is just a representative term. Result.
    There was a time when we wanted to be told what an electron is.
    The question was never answered. No familiar conceptions can be woven
    around the electron; it belongs to the waiting list.
    — Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington

    “We know electron by what it does, not by what it is.”

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  • From Phillip Helbig (undress to reply@21:1/5 to israel socratus on Tue Jun 29 14:51:44 2021
    In article <29a2dc35-7ff1-4ba1-bc22-a2e1262732abn@googlegroups.com>,
    israel socratus <socratus1944@gmail.com> writes:

    Is electron's spin real?
    Fact.
    In 1925, Samuel Goudsmit and George Uhlenbeck claimed that
    some of the mischievous features of the hydrogen spectrum could be
    successfully explained by assuming that electrons act as if they actually have a spin.
    Opinion.
    Because electron is spinning with a rotational velocity equivalent to the speed
    of light (which is practically impossible) the only conclusion is that an electron
    can't spin about its own axis, and thus, spin is just a representative term. Result.
    There was a time when we wanted to be told what an electron is.
    The question was never answered. No familiar conceptions can be woven
    around the electron; it belongs to the waiting list.
    --- Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington

    We know electron by what it does, not by what it is.

    Of course, an electron is not a tiny hard sphere spinning with an
    angular momentum which can be understood with classical physics.
    However, spin is not just a label like color in QCD or isospin, but
    really has something to do with angular momentum, as is shown by the Einstein--de Haas effect.

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  • From asjcharles@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 6 07:34:09 2021
    El martes, 29 de junio de 2021 a las 16:51:47 UTC+2, Phillip Helbig (undress
    to reply) escribi:
    In article <29a2dc35-7ff1-4ba1...@googlegroups.com>,
    israel socratus <socrat...@gmail.com> writes:

    Is electron's spin real?
    Fact.
    In 1925, Samuel Goudsmit and George Uhlenbeck claimed that
    some of the mischievous features of the hydrogen spectrum could be successfully explained by assuming that electrons act as if they actually have a spin.
    Opinion.
    Because electron is spinning with a rotational velocity equivalent to the speed
    of light (which is practically impossible) the only conclusion is that an electron
    can't spin about its own axis, and thus, spin is just a representative term.
    Result.
    There was a time when we wanted to be told what an electron is.
    The question was never answered. No familiar conceptions can be woven around the electron; it belongs to the waiting list.
    --- Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington

    We know electron by what it does, not by what it is.
    Of course, an electron is not a tiny hard sphere spinning with an
    angular momentum which can be understood with classical physics.
    However, spin is not just a label like color in QCD or isospin, but
    really has something to do with angular momentum, as is shown by the Einstein--de Haas effect.

    An electron orbiting a nucleus (in one of the allowed energy levels)
    would have two possible values of its orbital angular momentum if the
    electron has an inner, non isotropous, structure (e.g. with axial
    symmetry) due to which its directional electric charge is slightly
    different along the two possible directions that it may present (show)
    to the nucleus to stay in a stable orbit. The well known measured value
    of the electric charge of the electron would be the average (over all
    its intrinsic directions) of its directional electric charges. Such
    average electric charge is measured applying Coulomb's law in ordinary scenarios in which the intrinsic structure of the electron is randomly
    aligned in space.

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