• Do the neutrinos have mass?

    From Peter Percival@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 10 17:35:07 2019
    Do the neutrinos have mass, or not? Some texts say yes (but small) some
    say no.
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  • From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn@21:1/5 to Peter Percival on Sun Feb 10 21:50:18 2019
    Peter Percival wrote:
    Do the neutrinos have mass, or not? Some texts say yes (but small) some
    say no.

    Note that “no mass” is a shorthand expression for “mass equals zero (units
    of mass)”.

    The experimentally confirmed neutrino oscillation requires neutrinos to have
    a small, non-zero mass. If that is so, then the standard model of particle physics (SM), which requires them to have mass zero, is incomplete.

    For that reason and other reasons, extensions to the SM, such as SUSY (supersymmetry), are being tested, e.g. at particle accelerators like the
    Large Hadron Collider (LHC).

    See also:

    <https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2015/summary/> pp. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino_oscillation> pp.

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  • From Peter Percival@21:1/5 to Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on Mon Feb 11 10:15:42 2019
    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
    Peter Percival wrote:
    Do the neutrinos have mass, or not? Some texts say yes (but small) some
    say no.

    Note that “no mass” is a shorthand expression for “mass equals zero (units
    of mass)”.

    The experimentally confirmed neutrino oscillation requires neutrinos to have a small, non-zero mass. If that is so, then the standard model of particle physics (SM), which requires them to have mass zero, is incomplete.

    For that reason and other reasons, extensions to the SM, such as SUSY (supersymmetry), are being tested, e.g. at particle accelerators like the Large Hadron Collider (LHC).

    See also:

    <https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2015/summary/> pp. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino_oscillation> pp.

    Thank you.

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    "He who will not reason is a bigot;
    he who cannot is a fool;
    he who dares not is a slave."
    - Sir William Drummond

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  • From margaretporat@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on Sun Jun 23 00:43:34 2019
    On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 12:02:00 AM UTC+2, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
    Peter Percival wrote:
    Do the neutrinos have mass, or not? Some texts say yes (but small) some say no.

    Note that “no mass” is a shorthand expression for “mass equals zero (units
    of mass)”.

    The experimentally confirmed neutrino oscillation requires neutrinos to have a small, non-zero mass. If that is so, then the standard model of particle physics (SM), which requires them to have mass zero, is incomplete.

    For that reason and other reasons, extensions to the SM, such as SUSY (supersymmetry), are being tested, e.g. at particle accelerators like the Large Hadron Collider (LHC).

    See also:

    <https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2015/summary/> pp. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino_oscillation> pp.

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    PointedEars

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    even the nutrino that once has been considered as ''no mass''
    was found to have mass


    NO MASS --NO REAL PHYSICS !!
    moreover
    mass IS THE CREATOR OF ALL FORCES !!

    COPYRIGHT
    Y.Porat
    ======================

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  • From margaretporat@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Peter Percival on Sun Jun 23 00:39:36 2019
    On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 7:35:08 PM UTC+2, Peter Percival wrote:
    Do the neutrinos have mass, or not? Some texts say yes (but small) some
    say no.
    --
    "He who will not reason is a bigot;
    he who cannot is a fool;
    he who dares not is a slave."
    - Sir William Drummond
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    any particle has mass!!
    thatis by definition of ''particle''
    ===

    ATB
    Y.Porat
    ==================

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  • From Tom Roberts@21:1/5 to margaretporat@gmail.com on Mon Jun 24 13:42:22 2019
    On 6/23/19 2:39 AM, margaretporat@gmail.com wrote:
    any particle has mass!!
    thatis by definition of ''particle''

    Not really. Today we use the word "particle" as a shortcut for
    "excitation of a quantum field". There is no necessity for a quantum
    field to have nonzero mass, and as far as we know today the photon field
    has zero mass (the upper limit on its mass is INCREDIBLY small, 1E-18 eV).

    N.B. The observations of neutrino oscillations directly imply that at
    least 2 of the 3 known neutrinos have nonzero mass, with an upper limit
    of 2 eV. The oscillations imply mass differences much smaller than that.

    Tom Roberts

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  • From margaretporat@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Tom Roberts on Tue Jun 25 16:49:08 2019
    On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 9:42:29 PM UTC+3, Tom Roberts wrote:
    On 6/23/19 2:39 AM, margaretporat@gmail.com wrote:
    any particle has mass!!
    thatis by definition of ''particle''

    Not really. Today we use the word "particle" as a shortcut for
    "excitation of a quantum field". There is no necessity for a quantum
    field to have nonzero mass, and as far as we know today the photon field
    has zero mass (the upper limit on its mass is INCREDIBLY small, 1E-18 eV).

    N.B. The observations of neutrino oscillations directly imply that at
    least 2 of the 3 known neutrinos have nonzero mass, with an upper limit
    of 2 eV. The oscillations imply mass differences much smaller than that.

    Tom Roberts
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    according to my findings
    ans it is well documented in sci.physics manny years ago
    so the mass of the photon is about (sit sit steady on your chair(
    so it is about

    exp-90 KILOGRAM !!!
    it is based on
    E=hf !!!
    ====
    Tia
    Y.Porat
    ====================

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