• Gravitational model of the internal structure of particles

    From agcfct@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 20 22:18:13 2019
    According to "Gravitational model of the internal structure of proton, electron and neutron in general relativity theory
    Khlestkov A.Yu.1, Khlestkov Yu.A.1 1 National Research Nuclear University «MEPhI», Moscow, Russia"
    "Based on the exact solution of the Einstein - Maxwell equations for a centrally symmetric free electromagnetic field and a dusty substance, gravitational models of a proton, electron and neutron are proposed in the form of pulsating unclosed wormholes
    with two static throats - oppositely charged electric charges that extend into two parallel asymptotically flat vacuum spaces"

    we have got two parallel symmetrical worlds or, assuming wormholes with non-parallel axes, we have got two parallel asymmetric worlds.

    Maybe Wolfgang Pauli had in mind when wrote to Werner Heisenberg about bifurcation and reduction of symmetry (1958)

    Oleg Goryunov

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  • From ross.finlayson@gmail.com@21:1/5 to agc...@gmail.com on Sun Sep 22 10:48:23 2019
    On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 10:18:14 PM UTC-7, agc...@gmail.com wrote:
    According to "Gravitational model of the internal structure of proton, electron and neutron in general relativity theory
    Khlestkov A.Yu.1, Khlestkov Yu.A.1 1 National Research Nuclear University «MEPhI», Moscow, Russia"
    "Based on the exact solution of the Einstein - Maxwell equations for a centrally symmetric free electromagnetic field and a dusty substance, gravitational models of a proton, electron and neutron are proposed in the form of pulsating unclosed wormholes
    with two static throats - oppositely charged electric charges that extend into two parallel asymptotically flat vacuum spaces"

    we have got two parallel symmetrical worlds or, assuming wormholes with non-parallel axes, we have got two parallel asymmetric worlds.

    Maybe Wolfgang Pauli had in mind when wrote to Werner Heisenberg about bifurcation and reduction of symmetry (1958)

    Oleg Goryunov

    What are the models?

    It is a convenience for particle statistics and quantum mechanics.

    The particle statistics are Bose and Einstein, Fermi-Bose,
    tha hadron and baryon statistics, Bose-Einstein and Fermi-Dirac.
    Then there are mesons besides, and then parastatistics for them.

    Is it a statistical ensemble?

    "Based on the exact solution of the Einstein - Maxwell equations ...".

    For exact solutions, how is this model "the" exact?

    I can't read this in Russian but I looked for it.

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  • From agcfct@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 22 23:24:08 2019

    What are the models?

    ...

    I can't read this in Russian but I looked for it.

    It is possible to find the article in English via https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11182-019-01709-9
    or to write directly to authors (e-m is on the page).

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  • From agcfct@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 23 00:10:14 2019
    I would like to note that, probably, nothing prohibits having more than two layers, i.e. have a multi-layers reality. Then dark matter and energy can be understood.

    Oleg Goryunov

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  • From poraty4@gmail.com@21:1/5 to agc...@gmail.com on Mon Sep 23 08:32:13 2019
    On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 9:24:09 AM UTC+3, agc...@gmail.com wrote:

    What are the models?

    ...

    I can't read this in Russian but I looked for it.

    It is possible to find the article in English via https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11182-019-01709-9
    or to write directly to authors (e-m is on the page).
    ==============================
    if you wander about the internal structure of particles
    and nuclei
    d
    see the unprecedented model
    ========================================= http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract ==========================================================
    the ;chain of orbitals' system there

    plus
    y. circlon mechanism' at the appendix there
    and if you have questions (surely you must have)
    just ask

    TIA
    Y.Porat
    ======================

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  • From ross.finlayson@gmail.com@21:1/5 to agc...@gmail.com on Mon Sep 23 17:27:23 2019
    On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:24:09 PM UTC-7, agc...@gmail.com wrote:

    What are the models?

    ...

    I can't read this in Russian but I looked for it.

    It is possible to find the article in English via https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11182-019-01709-9
    or to write directly to authors (e-m is on the page).


    "... incomplete geometrizability of the electromagnetic field itself, [...]".

    Indeed. metrizability and para-metrizing for completeness
    have field effects courtesy components in gravity - a particle
    model of mass in space. (There are waves.)

    Gravity: a particle model of mass in space.

    Symmetry-breaking of Maxwell, ....

    "wormholes" -- strings, only connected, writing them as "wormholes"
    is assigning them the only meaning it has in black hole theory, they
    are always next to each other under being component differential
    terms or boundaries.

    From the abstract: "... when the proton is scattered on the electron,
    its wormhole penetrates into the center of the electron wormhole,
    the curvature radius of its neck decreases down to the abive-indicated
    neutron radius".

    "... nucleons and holding nuclei in a compact state".

    Hmm, you have the radius of the neutron is 1.0049
    while it is 0.8412 for the proton -- if that's not electromagnetic
    it's radioactive, or for example where lepton exchange instead
    meson exchange - hadrons are neutral under decay, for example.

    I.e. it seems under _draw_, the current considerations, of the particles.

    That's usually potential under potential.

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  • From agcfct@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 23 21:46:36 2019
    the unprecedented model

    Thank you very much, I will try to see.

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  • From poraty4@gmail.com@21:1/5 to agc...@gmail.com on Tue Sep 24 14:37:36 2019
    On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 7:46:38 AM UTC+3, agc...@gmail.com wrote:
    the unprecedented model

    Thank you very much, I will try to see.
    ======================
    you are welcom
    if you have questions(sure you might have)
    welcom shoot
    ==
    Y.P
    ================

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  • From poraty4@gmail.com@21:1/5 to ross.f...@gmail.com on Wed Sep 25 05:51:20 2019
    On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 3:27:24 AM UTC+3, ross.f...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:24:09 PM UTC-7, agc...@gmail.com wrote:

    What are the models?

    ...

    I can't read this in Russian but I looked for it.

    It is possible to find the article in English via https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11182-019-01709-9
    or to write directly to authors (e-m is on the page).
    =====================
    yes
    mass in space
    because
    mass is the main 'hero' here

    ======
    Y.P
    =====================



    "... incomplete geometrizability of the electromagnetic field itself, [...]".

    Indeed. metrizability and para-metrizing for completeness
    have field effects courtesy components in gravity - a particle
    model of mass in space. (There are waves.)

    Gravity: a particle model of mass in space.

    Symmetry-breaking of Maxwell, ....

    "wormholes" -- strings, only connected, writing them as "wormholes"
    is assigning them the only meaning it has in black hole theory, they
    are always next to each other under being component differential
    terms or boundaries.

    From the abstract: "... when the proton is scattered on the electron,
    its wormhole penetrates into the center of the electron wormhole,
    the curvature radius of its neck decreases down to the abive-indicated neutron radius".

    "... nucleons and holding nuclei in a compact state".

    ======
    Y.P
    =================

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  • From poraty4@gmail.com@21:1/5 to agc...@gmail.com on Fri Sep 27 07:58:33 2019
    On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 10:10:15 AM UTC+3, agc...@gmail.com wrote:
    I would like to note that, probably, nothing prohibits having more than two layers, i.e. have a multi-layers reality. Then dark matter and energy can be understood.

    Oleg Goryunov

    ======================
    just forget about you layers
    there is nothing like that in Atoms
    it is
    chains of orbitals ''
    ====
    ATB
    Y.P
    ================

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  • From poraty4@gmail.com@21:1/5 to por...@gmail.com on Sun Sep 29 00:11:13 2019
    On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 9:07:36 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:58:34 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 10:10:15 AM UTC+3, agc...@gmail.com wrote:
    I would like to note that, probably, nothing prohibits having more than two layers, i.e. have a multi-layers reality. Then dark matter and energy can be understood.

    Oleg Goryunov

    ======================
    just forget about you layers
    there is nothing like that in Atoms
    it is
    chains of orbitals ''
    ====
    ATB
    Y.P
    ================

    see
    http://sites.google.com/sits/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

    gravity is negligible there
    it is 'chain of orbitals' there
    and if you don t mind
    all chemistry is about
    chains of orbitals''
    that is my innovation applying it to nucleus as well
    ====
    TIA
    Y.P
    =====================
    sorry little typo

    http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

    TIA
    Y.P
    ====================

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  • From poraty4@gmail.com@21:1/5 to por...@gmail.com on Sun Sep 29 00:07:35 2019
    On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:58:34 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 10:10:15 AM UTC+3, agc...@gmail.com wrote:
    I would like to note that, probably, nothing prohibits having more than two layers, i.e. have a multi-layers reality. Then dark matter and energy can be understood.

    Oleg Goryunov

    ======================
    just forget about you layers
    there is nothing like that in Atoms
    it is
    chains of orbitals ''
    ====
    ATB
    Y.P
    ================

    see
    http://sites.google.com/sits/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

    gravity is negligible there
    it is 'chain of orbitals' there
    and if you don t mind
    all chemistry is about
    chains of orbitals''
    that is my innovation applying it to nucleus as well
    ====
    TIA
    Y.P
    =====================

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  • From poraty4@gmail.com@21:1/5 to por...@gmail.com on Sun Sep 29 00:16:56 2019
    On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 9:11:15 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 9:07:36 AM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:58:34 PM UTC+3, por...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 10:10:15 AM UTC+3, agc...@gmail.com wrote:
    I would like to note that, probably, nothing prohibits having more than two layers, i.e. have a multi-layers reality. Then dark matter and energy can be understood.

    Oleg Goryunov

    ======================
    just forget about you layers
    there is nothing like that in Atoms
    it is
    chains of orbitals ''
    ====
    ATB
    Y.P
    ================

    see
    http://sites.google.com/sits/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

    gravity is negligible there
    it is 'chain of orbitals' there
    and if you don t mind
    all chemistry is about
    chains of orbitals''
    that is my innovation applying it to nucleus as well
    ====
    TIA
    Y.P
    =====================
    sorry little typo

    http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract

    TIA
    Y.P
    ====================

    again typo
    any pips'' there is important

    http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstract
    hope it is right now
    ==Y.P
    =====================

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