• CAUSATION: ''a top and bottom''

    From 44socrat@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 2 01:56:02 2019
    TOPIC: Downward causation:
    George Ellis at the 6th FQXi Meeting
    FQXi BLOGS, September 2, 2019
    https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3322
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    CAUSATION: ''a top and bottom''
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    '' . . . he is not entirely convinced that there is a top or bottom. ''
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    At the most fundamental level, upward and downward causation
    must not only both exist, but must exist in a very specific form.
    / Robert H McEachern /
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    Bottom-up causation can presumably only work if we know
    everything about the bottom, but we have no certain knowledge
    that there is a bottom, that there are not, indeed,
    "turtles all the way down".
    / Peter Warwick Morgan /
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    ( . . . we don't even know if there *is* a bottom)
    / Blogger Ian Durham /
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    We do know that there is a bottom and we know exactly
    what it looks like - a single bit of information
    (Shannon's definition of a bit, not physicist's)
    / Robert H McEachern /
    https://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/3322
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