• Finding Patents

    From ggherold@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 3 11:33:43 2018
    Hi all, We're 1/2 thinking about doing some entangled photon experiments.
    A colleague told me that he thought there was a patent on the source of
    the photons (from Los Alamos labs, he thinks) It very well may be from
    this paper, http://www2.optics.rochester.edu/workgroups/lukishova/QuantumOpticsLab/homepage/type_i_kwiat_physrev_99.pdf

    How would you go about finding such a patent?.. if it exists.

    Thanks,

    George H.

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  • From ggherold@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gghe...@gmail.com on Tue Apr 3 12:29:11 2018
    On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:33:45 PM UTC-4, gghe...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi all, We're 1/2 thinking about doing some entangled photon experiments.
    A colleague told me that he thought there was a patent on the source of
    the photons (from Los Alamos labs, he thinks) It very well may be from
    this paper, http://www2.optics.rochester.edu/workgroups/lukishova/QuantumOpticsLab/homepage/type_i_kwiat_physrev_99.pdf

    How would you go about finding such a patent?.. if it exists.

    Thanks,

    George H.

    Never mind, I searched under first authors name and found it here. https://patents.justia.com/patent/6424665

    So when does a patent expire?
    GH

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  • From Joseph Gwinn@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 3 22:55:13 2018
    On Apr 3, 2018, ggherold@gmail.com wrote
    (in article<9fac0349-9e05-4f77-9e75-084ce6c48d98@googlegroups.com>):

    On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:33:45 PM UTC-4, gghe...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi all, We're 1/2 thinking about doing some entangled photon experiments.
    A colleague told me that he thought there was a patent on the source of
    the photons (from Los Alamos labs, he thinks) It very well may be from
    this paper, http://www2.optics.rochester.edu/workgroups/lukishova/QuantumOpticsLab/homep
    age/type_i_kwiat_physrev_99.pdf

    How would you go about finding such a patent?.. if it exists.

    Thanks,

    George H.

    Never mind, I searched under first authors name and found it here. https://patents.justia.com/patent/6424665

    So when does a patent expire?

    Seventeen years after date of filing (used to be date of grant, but no
    longer).

    Nor is it first to invent anuy more - now, it’s first to file.

    These two changes stopped a lot of games.

    Joe Gwinn

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  • From Daniel Kane@21:1/5 to Joseph Gwinn on Wed Apr 4 12:39:03 2018
    No, it is 20 years from the date of filing. I believe when that patent issued, there was also the stipulation of 17 years after the date of issue, whichever is later. Now it is always 20 after the date of filing.

    Also, a key distinction in the first to file rule. US patents are first inventor to file. This means that non-inventors cannot file for a patent. Their patent would be invalid if they did. An inventor must be named on the application for the patent
    to be valid. You still have a 1 year after public disclosure (but no offer for sale) if you only want to file in the US.

    Dan

    On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 8:55:19 PM UTC-6, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
    On Apr 3, 2018, ggherold@gmail.com wrote
    (in article<9fac0349-9e05-4f77-9e75-084ce6c48d98@googlegroups.com>):

    On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:33:45 PM UTC-4, gghe...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi all, We're 1/2 thinking about doing some entangled photon experiments. A colleague told me that he thought there was a patent on the source of the photons (from Los Alamos labs, he thinks) It very well may be from this paper, http://www2.optics.rochester.edu/workgroups/lukishova/QuantumOpticsLab/homep
    age/type_i_kwiat_physrev_99.pdf

    How would you go about finding such a patent?.. if it exists.

    Thanks,

    George H.

    Never mind, I searched under first authors name and found it here. https://patents.justia.com/patent/6424665

    So when does a patent expire?

    Seventeen years after date of filing (used to be date of grant, but no longer).

    Nor is it first to invent anuy more - now, it’s first to file.

    These two changes stopped a lot of games.

    Joe Gwinn

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  • From ggherold@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Daniel Kane on Thu Apr 5 05:49:18 2018
    On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 3:39:04 PM UTC-4, Daniel Kane wrote:
    No, it is 20 years from the date of filing. I believe when that patent issued, there was also the stipulation of 17 years after the date of issue, whichever is later. Now it is always 20 after the date of filing.

    Also, a key distinction in the first to file rule. US patents are first inventor to file. This means that non-inventors cannot file for a patent. Their patent would be invalid if they did. An inventor must be named on the application for the patent
    to be valid. You still have a 1 year after public disclosure (but no offer for sale) if you only want to file in the US.

    Dan

    On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 8:55:19 PM UTC-6, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
    On Apr 3, 2018, ggherold@gmail.com wrote
    (in article<9fac0349-9e05-4f77-9e75-084ce6c48d98@googlegroups.com>):

    On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:33:45 PM UTC-4, gghe...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi all, We're 1/2 thinking about doing some entangled photon experiments.
    A colleague told me that he thought there was a patent on the source of the photons (from Los Alamos labs, he thinks) It very well may be from this paper, http://www2.optics.rochester.edu/workgroups/lukishova/QuantumOpticsLab/homep
    age/type_i_kwiat_physrev_99.pdf

    How would you go about finding such a patent?.. if it exists.

    Thanks,

    George H.

    Never mind, I searched under first authors name and found it here. https://patents.justia.com/patent/6424665

    So when does a patent expire?

    Seventeen years after date of filing (used to be date of grant, but no longer).

    Nor is it first to invent anuy more - now, it’s first to file.

    These two changes stopped a lot of games.

    Joe Gwinn

    Thanks Dan, Joe. I took this discussion over the SED where I got
    basically the same answers.

    George H.

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  • From dratoff@gmail.com@21:1/5 to gghe...@gmail.com on Wed Oct 10 10:24:59 2018
    On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 7:49:20 AM UTC-5, gghe...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 3:39:04 PM UTC-4, Daniel Kane wrote:
    No, it is 20 years from the date of filing. I believe when that patent issued, there was also the stipulation of 17 years after the date of issue, whichever is later. Now it is always 20 after the date of filing.

    Also, a key distinction in the first to file rule. US patents are first inventor to file. This means that non-inventors cannot file for a patent. Their patent would be invalid if they did. An inventor must be named on the application for the
    patent to be valid. You still have a 1 year after public disclosure (but no offer for sale) if you only want to file in the US.

    Dan

    On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 8:55:19 PM UTC-6, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
    On Apr 3, 2018, ggherold@gmail.com wrote
    (in article<9fac0349-9e05-4f77-9e75-084ce6c48d98@googlegroups.com>):

    On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:33:45 PM UTC-4, gghe...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hi all, We're 1/2 thinking about doing some entangled photon experiments.
    A colleague told me that he thought there was a patent on the source of
    the photons (from Los Alamos labs, he thinks) It very well may be from
    this paper, http://www2.optics.rochester.edu/workgroups/lukishova/QuantumOpticsLab/homep
    age/type_i_kwiat_physrev_99.pdf

    How would you go about finding such a patent?.. if it exists.

    Thanks,

    George H.

    Never mind, I searched under first authors name and found it here. https://patents.justia.com/patent/6424665

    So when does a patent expire?

    Seventeen years after date of filing (used to be date of grant, but no longer).

    Nor is it first to invent anuy more - now, it’s first to file.

    These two changes stopped a lot of games.

    Joe Gwinn

    Thanks Dan, Joe. I took this discussion over the SED where I got
    basically the same answers.

    George H.

    That particular patent US6424665 has expired due to non-payment of maintenance fees.

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