• brightness

    From RichD@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 16 15:07:08 2021
    I was shopping for a flashlight recently, and naturally
    noticed a trade-off between size/compactness and brightness.
    The devices range up to 500 Lumens.

    Human perception is logarithmic. So I wonder, at what
    point, measured in Lumens, does apparent brightness
    level off? For instance, imagine you're in a dark place,
    and you want to blind an adversary. How many Lumens required?

    I seek the brightest lamp reasonable, while at the
    same time portable; pocket or belt carry

    --
    Rich

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to RichD on Wed Feb 17 20:59:24 2021
    RichD wrote:
    I was shopping for a flashlight recently, and naturally
    noticed a trade-off between size/compactness and brightness.
    The devices range up to 500 Lumens.

    Human perception is logarithmic. So I wonder, at what
    point, measured in Lumens, does apparent brightness
    level off? For instance, imagine you're in a dark place,
    and you want to blind an adversary. How many Lumens required?

    Lumens are like watts---they measure the total amount of visible light.
    A good 100W incandescent bulb circa 2012 put out 1690 lumens. That's a
    whole lot for a flashlight.

    For a narrow-angle applications, you care more about lux (lumens/sq
    metre). 1000 lux is a nice number for reading a book, but 5000 is better
    for an old guy doing close work. ;)

    For incapacitating somebody, you're much better off with an 8-D-cell
    Maglite, know wha' I mean?

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Phil Hobbs on Mon Feb 22 12:50:09 2021
    On February 17, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    I was shopping for a flashlight recently, and naturally
    noticed a trade-off between size/compactness and brightness.
    The devices range up to 500 Lumens.
    Human perception is logarithmic. So I wonder, at what
    point, measured in Lumens, does apparent brightness
    level off? For instance, imagine you're in a dark place,
    and you want to blind an adversary. How many Lumens required?

    Lumens are like watts---they measure the total amount of visible light.
    A good 100W incandescent bulb circa 2012 put out 1690 lumens. That's a
    whole lot for a flashlight.
    For a narrow-angle applications, you care more about lux (lumens/sq
    metre). 1000 lux is a nice number for reading a book, but 5000 is better
    for an old guy doing close work. ;)

    The packages include the FL1 standard, but I don't know how to interpret
    that. One of the specs displays a light cone, and e.g. '95 ft.' This indicates lux?

    Then there's a picture of a light beam reflecting from the floor ...?

    For incapacitating somebody, you're much better off with an 8-D-cell
    Maglite, know wha' I mean?

    One of those police torches - not too convenient for routine carry -
    probly nice self-defense gadgets though - "It's a tool, not a weapon, officer!"

    --
    Rich

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to RichD on Wed Feb 24 20:56:00 2021
    RichD wrote:
    On February 17, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    I was shopping for a flashlight recently, and naturally
    noticed a trade-off between size/compactness and brightness.
    The devices range up to 500 Lumens.
    Human perception is logarithmic. So I wonder, at what
    point, measured in Lumens, does apparent brightness
    level off? For instance, imagine you're in a dark place,
    and you want to blind an adversary. How many Lumens required?

    Lumens are like watts---they measure the total amount of visible light.
    A good 100W incandescent bulb circa 2012 put out 1690 lumens. That's a
    whole lot for a flashlight.
    For a narrow-angle applications, you care more about lux (lumens/sq
    metre). 1000 lux is a nice number for reading a book, but 5000 is better
    for an old guy doing close work. ;)

    The packages include the FL1 standard, but I don't know how to interpret that. One of the specs displays a light cone, and e.g. '95 ft.' This indicates lux?

    Then there's a picture of a light beam reflecting from the floor ...?

    For incapacitating somebody, you're much better off with an 8-D-cell
    Maglite, know wha' I mean?

    One of those police torches - not too convenient for routine carry -
    probly nice self-defense gadgets though - "It's a tool, not a weapon, officer!"

    --
    Rich

    The ones all the rent-a-cops carry. Billy clubs are illegal, but
    flashlights are OK.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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