• FRED vs ZEMAX

    From peenjack@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Philip on Fri Feb 22 11:50:27 2019
    On Friday, February 15, 2008 at 11:27:36 AM UTC-8, Philip wrote:
    On Feb 15, 6:14 am, "Florian" <florian.m...@dlr.de> wrote:
    Hello Fellows,

    does anybody have experience with ZEMAX and FRED? I am using ZEMAX at the moment and think about trying out FRED.
    Maybe somebody can tell some differences, advantages and disadvantages of the two programs.

    Greetings, Florian

    Florian

    I use both FRED and ZEMAX because they are different tools for
    different (but similar) jobs.

    Simply: FRED is a non-sequential ray tracing tool, and ZEMAX is a
    sequential raytracing tool. ZEMAX EE has non-sequential raytracing capabilities but I find them cumbersome to use and most customers in
    the Aerospace/Defense/Govt sectors use FRED.

    FRED and ZEMAX are used for a huge variety of purposes and it really
    depends on the field of work you are in.

    I use ZEMAX to design various types of optical systems and optimize
    them. I use FRED to verify and quantify different aspects of the
    radiometric properties of a system. In particular I use FRED to
    import an optical model, and a mechanical model, and perform system or sub-system stray light analysis.

    Now if I were using FRED to design a telescope, I would become
    frustrated. Also, If I were to use ZEMAX to quantify the effect of a spurious reflection, I would become frustrated.

    Is the reason you are looking for an alternative to ZEMAX because you
    are using the wrong tool for the job?

    -Philip

    Philip,

    My manager has asked me to get involved in our optical beam train design.
    I have been out of school now for over 20 years and haven't had to ray trace since then.

    He is very old school and has these spread sheets that he developed over the years and prefers them. But He likes to do comparisons with another engineer who uses Zemax.

    I was wondering in your experience if you would prefer FRED over Zemax to design rely imaging telescopes/systems that our process requires. We image a square mask on a high power laser system for laser shot peening. Mainly 1:1, 1:2 telescopes. Then the
    final image is placed on a part with focusing beam.

    Which program would be easier to learn with?

    I'd appreciate any input.

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to peenjack@gmail.com on Fri Feb 22 15:39:41 2019
    On 2/22/19 2:50 PM, peenjack@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, February 15, 2008 at 11:27:36 AM UTC-8, Philip wrote:
    On Feb 15, 6:14 am, "Florian" <florian.m...@dlr.de> wrote:
    Hello Fellows,

    does anybody have experience with ZEMAX and FRED? I am using ZEMAX at the >>> moment and think about trying out FRED.
    Maybe somebody can tell some differences, advantages and disadvantages of >>> the two programs.

    Greetings, Florian

    Florian

    I use both FRED and ZEMAX because they are different tools for
    different (but similar) jobs.

    Simply: FRED is a non-sequential ray tracing tool, and ZEMAX is a
    sequential raytracing tool. ZEMAX EE has non-sequential raytracing
    capabilities but I find them cumbersome to use and most customers in
    the Aerospace/Defense/Govt sectors use FRED.

    FRED and ZEMAX are used for a huge variety of purposes and it really
    depends on the field of work you are in.

    I use ZEMAX to design various types of optical systems and optimize
    them. I use FRED to verify and quantify different aspects of the
    radiometric properties of a system. In particular I use FRED to
    import an optical model, and a mechanical model, and perform system or
    sub-system stray light analysis.

    Now if I were using FRED to design a telescope, I would become
    frustrated. Also, If I were to use ZEMAX to quantify the effect of a
    spurious reflection, I would become frustrated.

    Is the reason you are looking for an alternative to ZEMAX because you
    are using the wrong tool for the job?

    -Philip

    Philip,

    My manager has asked me to get involved in our optical beam train design.
    I have been out of school now for over 20 years and haven't had to ray trace since then.

    He is very old school and has these spread sheets that he developed over the years and prefers them. But He likes to do comparisons with another engineer who uses Zemax.

    I was wondering in your experience if you would prefer FRED over Zemax to design rely imaging telescopes/systems that our process requires. We image a square mask on a high power laser system for laser shot peening. Mainly 1:1, 1:2 telescopes. Then the
    final image is placed on a part with focusing beam.

    Which program would be easier to learn with?

    I'd appreciate any input.


    You're replying to an 11-year-old post. This is Usenet, not Google
    Groups. (Welcome.) Usenet has been around since 1979, whereas Google
    didn't come around till 1997. (I'm not a lens designer, or I'd have a
    whack at answering your question.)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From b0il.info@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Phil Hobbs on Sun Oct 17 02:57:40 2021
    On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 4:39:52 AM UTC+8, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    On 2/22/19 2:50 PM, peen...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, February 15, 2008 at 11:27:36 AM UTC-8, Philip wrote:
    On Feb 15, 6:14 am, "Florian" <florian.m...@dlr.de> wrote:
    Hello Fellows,

    does anybody have experience with ZEMAX and FRED? I am using ZEMAX at the
    moment and think about trying out FRED.
    Maybe somebody can tell some differences, advantages and disadvantages of
    the two programs.

    Greetings, Florian

    Florian

    I use both FRED and ZEMAX because they are different tools for
    different (but similar) jobs.

    Simply: FRED is a non-sequential ray tracing tool, and ZEMAX is a
    sequential raytracing tool. ZEMAX EE has non-sequential raytracing
    capabilities but I find them cumbersome to use and most customers in
    the Aerospace/Defense/Govt sectors use FRED.

    FRED and ZEMAX are used for a huge variety of purposes and it really
    depends on the field of work you are in.

    I use ZEMAX to design various types of optical systems and optimize
    them. I use FRED to verify and quantify different aspects of the
    radiometric properties of a system. In particular I use FRED to
    import an optical model, and a mechanical model, and perform system or
    sub-system stray light analysis.

    Now if I were using FRED to design a telescope, I would become
    frustrated. Also, If I were to use ZEMAX to quantify the effect of a
    spurious reflection, I would become frustrated.

    Is the reason you are looking for an alternative to ZEMAX because you
    are using the wrong tool for the job?

    -Philip

    Philip,

    My manager has asked me to get involved in our optical beam train design. I have been out of school now for over 20 years and haven't had to ray trace since then.

    He is very old school and has these spread sheets that he developed over the years and prefers them. But He likes to do comparisons with another engineer who uses Zemax.

    I was wondering in your experience if you would prefer FRED over Zemax to design rely imaging telescopes/systems that our process requires. We image a square mask on a high power laser system for laser shot peening. Mainly 1:1, 1:2 telescopes. Then
    the final image is placed on a part with focusing beam.

    Which program would be easier to learn with?

    I'd appreciate any input.

    You're replying to an 11-year-old post. This is Usenet, not Google
    Groups. (Welcome.) Usenet has been around since 1979, whereas Google
    didn't come around till 1997. (I'm not a lens designer, or I'd have a
    whack at answering your question.)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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