On 2021-05-28, Fat Queer Boob tRUMP <jthonq@gmail.com> wrote:
Trump¶'s claim about fallen soldiers draws outrage: ¶'soulless
coward,¶' ¶'deranged¶'
WASHINGTON (AP) ¶- For U.S. presidents, meeting the families of
military personnel killed in war is about as wrenching as the
presidency gets. President Donald Trump¶'s suggestion Monday that his
predecessors fell short in that duty brought a visceral reaction from
those who witnessed those grieving encounters.
¶"He¶'s a deranged animal,¶" Alyssa Mastromonaco, a former deputy chief
of staff to President Barack Obama, tweeted about Trump. With an
expletive, she called Trump¶'s statement in the Rose Garden a lie.
Trump said in a news conference he had written letters to the families
of four soldiers killed two weeks ago in Niger. He then said he also
planned to call them, crediting himself with taking extra steps in
honoring the dead properly. ¶"Most of them didn¶'t make calls,¶" he
said of his predecessors. He said it¶'s possible that Obama ¶"did
sometimes¶" but ¶"other presidents did not call.¶"
The record is plain that presidents reached out to families of the dead
and to the wounded, often with their presence as well as by letter and
phone. The path to Walter Reed and other military hospitals, as well as
to the Dover, Delaware, Air Force Base where the remains of fallen
soldiers are often brought, is a familiar one to Obama, George W. Bush
and others.
Bush, even at the height of two wars, ¶"wrote all the families of the
fallen,¶" said Freddy Ford, spokesman for the ex-president. Ford said
Bush also called or met ¶"hundreds, if not thousands¶" of family
members of the war dead.
Obama¶'s official photographer, Pete Souza, tweeted that he
photographed Obama ¶"meeting with hundreds of wounded soldiers, and
family members of those killed in action.¶" Others recalled his
frequent visits with Gold Star families, and travels to Walter Reed,
Dover and other venues with families of the dead and with the wounded.
Retired Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, confirmed these contacts, tweeting: ¶"POTUS 43 & 44 and first
ladies cared deeply, worked tirelessly for the serving, the fallen, and
their families. Not politics. Sacred Trust.¶"
San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, who has been an outspoken
critic of Trump, weighed in as well, calling the president ¶"a soulless
coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others.¶"
The coach told The Nation magazine that Trump¶'s comments Monday were
¶"beyond the pale¶" and ¶"as low as it gets.¶"
Trump addressed the matter when asked why he had not spoken about the
four soldiers killed in Niger on Oct. 4. They died when militants
thought to be affiliated with the Islamic State group ambushed them
while they were patrolling in unarmored trucks with Nigerien troops.
¶"I actually wrote letters individually to the soldiers we¶'re talking
about, and they¶'re going to be going out either today or tomorrow,¶"
he said, meaning he wrote to the families of the fallen soldiers. He
did not explain why letters had not been sent yet, more than a week
after the attack.
¶"If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them
didn¶'t make calls,¶" Trump said.
Pressed on that statement later, he said of Obama: ¶"I was told that he
didn¶'t often, and a lot of presidents don¶'t. They write letters.¶" He
went on: ¶"President Obama, I think, probably did sometimes, and maybe
sometimes he didn¶'t. I don¶'t know. That¶'s what I was told. ¶. Some
presidents didn¶'t do anything.¶"
Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said later that Trump ¶"wasn¶'t
criticizing predecessors, but stating a fact.¶" She argued that
presidents didn¶'t always call families of those killed in battle:
¶"Sometimes they call, sometimes they send a letter, other times they
have the opportunity to meet family members in person.¶"
She said anyone claiming a former president had called every family was
¶"mistaken.¶"
Bush¶'s commitment to writing to all military families of the dead and
to reaching out by phone or meeting with many others came despite the
enormity of the task. In the Iraq war alone, U.S. combat deaths were
highest during his presidency, exceeding 800 each year from 2004
through 2007. The number fell to 313 in Bush¶'s last year in office as
the insurgency faded. Bush once said he felt the appropriate way to
show his respect was to meet family members in private.
Obama declared an end to combat operations in Iraq in August 2010 and
the last U.S. troops were withdrawn in December 2011. As Obama wound
down that war, he sent tens of thousands more troops into Afghanistan
in 2009 and 2010, and the death count mounted. From a total of 155
Americans killed in Afghanistan in 2008, which was Bush¶'s last full
year in office, the number jumped to 311 in 2009 and peaked the next
year at 498. In all, more than 1,700 died in Afghanistan on Obama¶'s
watch.
Among other rituals honoring military families, the Obamas had a ¶"Gold
Star¶" Christmas tree in the White House decorated with hundreds of
photos and notes from people who had lost loved ones in war. Gold Star
families visited during the holidays, bringing ornaments.
Trump visited Dover early in his presidency, going in February with his
daughter Ivanka for the return of the remains of a U.S. Navy SEAL
killed during a raid in Yemen, William ¶"Ryan¶" Owens.
Trump¶'s relations with Gold Star families have not always been smooth,
dating from his belittlement of the parents of slain U.S. soldier
Humayun Khan, who was Muslim. Trump was angered when the soldier¶'s
father, Khizr Khan, was given a platform to criticize him at the
Democratic National Convention.
Owens¶' grieving father said he didn¶'t want to talk with Trump at
Dover. But the sailor¶'s widow, Carryn, attended Trump¶'s address to
Congress and wept as he thanked her.
On 2021-05-28, Fat Queer Boob tRUMP <jthonq@gmail.com> wrote:
Trump¶'s claim about fallen soldiers draws outrage: ¶'soulless
coward,¶' ¶'deranged¶'
WASHINGTON (AP) ¶- For U.S. presidents, meeting the families of
military personnel killed in war is about as wrenching as the
presidency gets. President Donald Trump¶'s suggestion Monday that his
predecessors fell short in that duty brought a visceral reaction from
those who witnessed those grieving encounters.
¶"He¶'s a deranged animal,¶" Alyssa Mastromonaco, a former deputy chief
of staff to President Barack Obama, tweeted about Trump. With an
expletive, she called Trump¶'s statement in the Rose Garden a lie.
Trump said in a news conference he had written letters to the families
of four soldiers killed two weeks ago in Niger. He then said he also
planned to call them, crediting himself with taking extra steps in
honoring the dead properly. ¶"Most of them didn¶'t make calls,¶" he
said of his predecessors. He said it¶'s possible that Obama ¶"did
sometimes¶" but ¶"other presidents did not call.¶"
The record is plain that presidents reached out to families of the dead
and to the wounded, often with their presence as well as by letter and
phone. The path to Walter Reed and other military hospitals, as well as
to the Dover, Delaware, Air Force Base where the remains of fallen
soldiers are often brought, is a familiar one to Obama, George W. Bush
and others.
Bush, even at the height of two wars, ¶"wrote all the families of the
fallen,¶" said Freddy Ford, spokesman for the ex-president. Ford said
Bush also called or met ¶"hundreds, if not thousands¶" of family
members of the war dead.
Obama¶'s official photographer, Pete Souza, tweeted that he
photographed Obama ¶"meeting with hundreds of wounded soldiers, and
family members of those killed in action.¶" Others recalled his
frequent visits with Gold Star families, and travels to Walter Reed,
Dover and other venues with families of the dead and with the wounded.
Retired Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, confirmed these contacts, tweeting: ¶"POTUS 43 & 44 and first
ladies cared deeply, worked tirelessly for the serving, the fallen, and
their families. Not politics. Sacred Trust.¶"
San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, who has been an outspoken
critic of Trump, weighed in as well, calling the president ¶"a soulless
coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others.¶"
The coach told The Nation magazine that Trump¶'s comments Monday were
¶"beyond the pale¶" and ¶"as low as it gets.¶"
Trump addressed the matter when asked why he had not spoken about the
four soldiers killed in Niger on Oct. 4. They died when militants
thought to be affiliated with the Islamic State group ambushed them
while they were patrolling in unarmored trucks with Nigerien troops.
¶"I actually wrote letters individually to the soldiers we¶'re talking
about, and they¶'re going to be going out either today or tomorrow,¶"
he said, meaning he wrote to the families of the fallen soldiers. He
did not explain why letters had not been sent yet, more than a week
after the attack.
¶"If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them
didn¶'t make calls,¶" Trump said.
Pressed on that statement later, he said of Obama: ¶"I was told that he
didn¶'t often, and a lot of presidents don¶'t. They write letters.¶" He
went on: ¶"President Obama, I think, probably did sometimes, and maybe
sometimes he didn¶'t. I don¶'t know. That¶'s what I was told. ¶. Some
presidents didn¶'t do anything.¶"
Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said later that Trump ¶"wasn¶'t
criticizing predecessors, but stating a fact.¶" She argued that
presidents didn¶'t always call families of those killed in battle:
¶"Sometimes they call, sometimes they send a letter, other times they
have the opportunity to meet family members in person.¶"
She said anyone claiming a former president had called every family was
¶"mistaken.¶"
Bush¶'s commitment to writing to all military families of the dead and
to reaching out by phone or meeting with many others came despite the
enormity of the task. In the Iraq war alone, U.S. combat deaths were
highest during his presidency, exceeding 800 each year from 2004
through 2007. The number fell to 313 in Bush¶'s last year in office as
the insurgency faded. Bush once said he felt the appropriate way to
show his respect was to meet family members in private.
Obama declared an end to combat operations in Iraq in August 2010 and
the last U.S. troops were withdrawn in December 2011. As Obama wound
down that war, he sent tens of thousands more troops into Afghanistan
in 2009 and 2010, and the death count mounted. From a total of 155
Americans killed in Afghanistan in 2008, which was Bush¶'s last full
year in office, the number jumped to 311 in 2009 and peaked the next
year at 498. In all, more than 1,700 died in Afghanistan on Obama¶'s
watch.
Among other rituals honoring military families, the Obamas had a ¶"Gold
Star¶" Christmas tree in the White House decorated with hundreds of
photos and notes from people who had lost loved ones in war. Gold Star
families visited during the holidays, bringing ornaments.
Trump visited Dover early in his presidency, going in February with his
daughter Ivanka for the return of the remains of a U.S. Navy SEAL
killed during a raid in Yemen, William ¶"Ryan¶" Owens.
Trump¶'s relations with Gold Star families have not always been smooth,
dating from his belittlement of the parents of slain U.S. soldier
Humayun Khan, who was Muslim. Trump was angered when the soldier¶'s
father, Khizr Khan, was given a platform to criticize him at the
Democratic National Convention.
Owens¶' grieving father said he didn¶'t want to talk with Trump at
Dover. But the sailor¶'s widow, Carryn, attended Trump¶'s address to
Congress and wept as he thanked her.
On 2021-05-28, Fat Queer Boob tRUMP <jthonq@gmail.com> wrote:
Trump¶'s claim about fallen soldiers draws outrage: ¶'soulless
coward,¶' ¶'deranged¶'
WASHINGTON (AP) ¶- For U.S. presidents, meeting the families of
military personnel killed in war is about as wrenching as the
presidency gets. President Donald Trump¶'s suggestion Monday that his
predecessors fell short in that duty brought a visceral reaction from
those who witnessed those grieving encounters.
¶"He¶'s a deranged animal,¶" Alyssa Mastromonaco, a former deputy chief
of staff to President Barack Obama, tweeted about Trump. With an
expletive, she called Trump¶'s statement in the Rose Garden a lie.
Trump said in a news conference he had written letters to the families
of four soldiers killed two weeks ago in Niger. He then said he also
planned to call them, crediting himself with taking extra steps in
honoring the dead properly. ¶"Most of them didn¶'t make calls,¶" he
said of his predecessors. He said it¶'s possible that Obama ¶"did
sometimes¶" but ¶"other presidents did not call.¶"
The record is plain that presidents reached out to families of the dead
and to the wounded, often with their presence as well as by letter and
phone. The path to Walter Reed and other military hospitals, as well as
to the Dover, Delaware, Air Force Base where the remains of fallen
soldiers are often brought, is a familiar one to Obama, George W. Bush
and others.
Bush, even at the height of two wars, ¶"wrote all the families of the
fallen,¶" said Freddy Ford, spokesman for the ex-president. Ford said
Bush also called or met ¶"hundreds, if not thousands¶" of family
members of the war dead.
Obama¶'s official photographer, Pete Souza, tweeted that he
photographed Obama ¶"meeting with hundreds of wounded soldiers, and
family members of those killed in action.¶" Others recalled his
frequent visits with Gold Star families, and travels to Walter Reed,
Dover and other venues with families of the dead and with the wounded.
Retired Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, confirmed these contacts, tweeting: ¶"POTUS 43 & 44 and first
ladies cared deeply, worked tirelessly for the serving, the fallen, and
their families. Not politics. Sacred Trust.¶"
San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, who has been an outspoken
critic of Trump, weighed in as well, calling the president ¶"a soulless
coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others.¶"
The coach told The Nation magazine that Trump¶'s comments Monday were
¶"beyond the pale¶" and ¶"as low as it gets.¶"
Trump addressed the matter when asked why he had not spoken about the
four soldiers killed in Niger on Oct. 4. They died when militants
thought to be affiliated with the Islamic State group ambushed them
while they were patrolling in unarmored trucks with Nigerien troops.
¶"I actually wrote letters individually to the soldiers we¶'re talking
about, and they¶'re going to be going out either today or tomorrow,¶"
he said, meaning he wrote to the families of the fallen soldiers. He
did not explain why letters had not been sent yet, more than a week
after the attack.
¶"If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them
didn¶'t make calls,¶" Trump said.
Pressed on that statement later, he said of Obama: ¶"I was told that he
didn¶'t often, and a lot of presidents don¶'t. They write letters.¶" He
went on: ¶"President Obama, I think, probably did sometimes, and maybe
sometimes he didn¶'t. I don¶'t know. That¶'s what I was told. ¶. Some
presidents didn¶'t do anything.¶"
Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said later that Trump ¶"wasn¶'t
criticizing predecessors, but stating a fact.¶" She argued that
presidents didn¶'t always call families of those killed in battle:
¶"Sometimes they call, sometimes they send a letter, other times they
have the opportunity to meet family members in person.¶"
She said anyone claiming a former president had called every family was
¶"mistaken.¶"
Bush¶'s commitment to writing to all military families of the dead and
to reaching out by phone or meeting with many others came despite the
enormity of the task. In the Iraq war alone, U.S. combat deaths were
highest during his presidency, exceeding 800 each year from 2004
through 2007. The number fell to 313 in Bush¶'s last year in office as
the insurgency faded. Bush once said he felt the appropriate way to
show his respect was to meet family members in private.
Obama declared an end to combat operations in Iraq in August 2010 and
the last U.S. troops were withdrawn in December 2011. As Obama wound
down that war, he sent tens of thousands more troops into Afghanistan
in 2009 and 2010, and the death count mounted. From a total of 155
Americans killed in Afghanistan in 2008, which was Bush¶'s last full
year in office, the number jumped to 311 in 2009 and peaked the next
year at 498. In all, more than 1,700 died in Afghanistan on Obama¶'s
watch.
Among other rituals honoring military families, the Obamas had a ¶"Gold
Star¶" Christmas tree in the White House decorated with hundreds of
photos and notes from people who had lost loved ones in war. Gold Star
families visited during the holidays, bringing ornaments.
Trump visited Dover early in his presidency, going in February with his
daughter Ivanka for the return of the remains of a U.S. Navy SEAL
killed during a raid in Yemen, William ¶"Ryan¶" Owens.
Trump¶'s relations with Gold Star families have not always been smooth,
dating from his belittlement of the parents of slain U.S. soldier
Humayun Khan, who was Muslim. Trump was angered when the soldier¶'s
father, Khizr Khan, was given a platform to criticize him at the
Democratic National Convention.
Owens¶' grieving father said he didn¶'t want to talk with Trump at
Dover. But the sailor¶'s widow, Carryn, attended Trump¶'s address to
Congress and wept as he thanked her.
On 2021-05-28, Fat Queer Boob tRUMP <jthonq@gmail.com> wrote:
Trump¶'s claim about fallen soldiers draws outrage: ¶'soulless
coward,¶' ¶'deranged¶'
WASHINGTON (AP) ¶- For U.S. presidents, meeting the families of
military personnel killed in war is about as wrenching as the
presidency gets. President Donald Trump¶'s suggestion Monday that his
predecessors fell short in that duty brought a visceral reaction from
those who witnessed those grieving encounters.
¶"He¶'s a deranged animal,¶" Alyssa Mastromonaco, a former deputy chief
of staff to President Barack Obama, tweeted about Trump. With an
expletive, she called Trump¶'s statement in the Rose Garden a lie.
Trump said in a news conference he had written letters to the families
of four soldiers killed two weeks ago in Niger. He then said he also
planned to call them, crediting himself with taking extra steps in
honoring the dead properly. ¶"Most of them didn¶'t make calls,¶" he
said of his predecessors. He said it¶'s possible that Obama ¶"did
sometimes¶" but ¶"other presidents did not call.¶"
The record is plain that presidents reached out to families of the dead
and to the wounded, often with their presence as well as by letter and
phone. The path to Walter Reed and other military hospitals, as well as
to the Dover, Delaware, Air Force Base where the remains of fallen
soldiers are often brought, is a familiar one to Obama, George W. Bush
and others.
Bush, even at the height of two wars, ¶"wrote all the families of the
fallen,¶" said Freddy Ford, spokesman for the ex-president. Ford said
Bush also called or met ¶"hundreds, if not thousands¶" of family
members of the war dead.
Obama¶'s official photographer, Pete Souza, tweeted that he
photographed Obama ¶"meeting with hundreds of wounded soldiers, and
family members of those killed in action.¶" Others recalled his
frequent visits with Gold Star families, and travels to Walter Reed,
Dover and other venues with families of the dead and with the wounded.
Retired Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, confirmed these contacts, tweeting: ¶"POTUS 43 & 44 and first
ladies cared deeply, worked tirelessly for the serving, the fallen, and
their families. Not politics. Sacred Trust.¶"
San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, who has been an outspoken
critic of Trump, weighed in as well, calling the president ¶"a soulless
coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others.¶"
The coach told The Nation magazine that Trump¶'s comments Monday were
¶"beyond the pale¶" and ¶"as low as it gets.¶"
Trump addressed the matter when asked why he had not spoken about the
four soldiers killed in Niger on Oct. 4. They died when militants
thought to be affiliated with the Islamic State group ambushed them
while they were patrolling in unarmored trucks with Nigerien troops.
¶"I actually wrote letters individually to the soldiers we¶'re talking
about, and they¶'re going to be going out either today or tomorrow,¶"
he said, meaning he wrote to the families of the fallen soldiers. He
did not explain why letters had not been sent yet, more than a week
after the attack.
¶"If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them
didn¶'t make calls,¶" Trump said.
Pressed on that statement later, he said of Obama: ¶"I was told that he
didn¶'t often, and a lot of presidents don¶'t. They write letters.¶" He
went on: ¶"President Obama, I think, probably did sometimes, and maybe
sometimes he didn¶'t. I don¶'t know. That¶'s what I was told. ¶. Some
presidents didn¶'t do anything.¶"
Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said later that Trump ¶"wasn¶'t
criticizing predecessors, but stating a fact.¶" She argued that
presidents didn¶'t always call families of those killed in battle:
¶"Sometimes they call, sometimes they send a letter, other times they
have the opportunity to meet family members in person.¶"
She said anyone claiming a former president had called every family was
¶"mistaken.¶"
Bush¶'s commitment to writing to all military families of the dead and
to reaching out by phone or meeting with many others came despite the
enormity of the task. In the Iraq war alone, U.S. combat deaths were
highest during his presidency, exceeding 800 each year from 2004
through 2007. The number fell to 313 in Bush¶'s last year in office as
the insurgency faded. Bush once said he felt the appropriate way to
show his respect was to meet family members in private.
Obama declared an end to combat operations in Iraq in August 2010 and
the last U.S. troops were withdrawn in December 2011. As Obama wound
down that war, he sent tens of thousands more troops into Afghanistan
in 2009 and 2010, and the death count mounted. From a total of 155
Americans killed in Afghanistan in 2008, which was Bush¶'s last full
year in office, the number jumped to 311 in 2009 and peaked the next
year at 498. In all, more than 1,700 died in Afghanistan on Obama¶'s
watch.
Among other rituals honoring military families, the Obamas had a ¶"Gold
Star¶" Christmas tree in the White House decorated with hundreds of
photos and notes from people who had lost loved ones in war. Gold Star
families visited during the holidays, bringing ornaments.
Trump visited Dover early in his presidency, going in February with his
daughter Ivanka for the return of the remains of a U.S. Navy SEAL
killed during a raid in Yemen, William ¶"Ryan¶" Owens.
Trump¶'s relations with Gold Star families have not always been smooth,
dating from his belittlement of the parents of slain U.S. soldier
Humayun Khan, who was Muslim. Trump was angered when the soldier¶'s
father, Khizr Khan, was given a platform to criticize him at the
Democratic National Convention.
Owens¶' grieving father said he didn¶'t want to talk with Trump at
Dover. But the sailor¶'s widow, Carryn, attended Trump¶'s address to
Congress and wept as he thanked her.
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