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    From a425couple@21:1/5 to Ras Tafarian on Sun Oct 24 10:01:24 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    On 10/22/2021 6:13 PM, Ras Tafarian wrote:
    MURDER — ALEC BALDWIN FIRES GUN AT CINEMATOGRAPHER


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10122393/Family-cinematographer-shot-dead-Alec-Baldwin-demand-answers-fight-fly-US.html


    WHY WOULD ANYONE TAKE AIM AT THE CINEMATOGRAPHER
    AND THEN PULL THE TRIGGER ! ?

    SHE WAS NOT ACTING,
    SHE WAS PART OF THE FILM CREW !!!

    THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR FIRING ANY TYPE OF PROJECTILE
    AT ANYONE -- ESPECIALLY THE CINEMATOGRAPHER.

    PSYCHO DEMONIC POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] WAS OBVIOUSLY
    GOING OUT OF HIS MIND, MORE THAN USUAL.

    SEEING HIS WHOLE CREW DEPART / QUIT,
    DEMON POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] ALEC BALDWIN,
    JUST WENT AHEAD AND SHOT THE PEOPLE,
    IN TOTAL RAGE.

    LOCK HIM UP, AND PUT HIM AWAY FOR LIFE !

    Yes.
    The asshole was very anti-gun. Contributed to an
    anti-NRA Documentary ‘Making A Killing’.

    Then he goes, takes a gun, aims it at worker,
    pulls the trigger, and kills her.

    Of course he should be charged with a crime.

    If Charlton Heston did this they would have him in jail already!

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  • From George Black@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 25 07:50:37 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    On 25/10/21 6:01 am, a425couple wrote:
    On 10/22/2021 6:13 PM, Ras Tafarian wrote:
    MURDER — ALEC BALDWIN FIRES GUN AT CINEMATOGRAPHER


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10122393/Family-cinematographer-shot-dead-Alec-Baldwin-demand-answers-fight-fly-US.html


        WHY WOULD ANYONE TAKE AIM AT THE CINEMATOGRAPHER
        AND THEN PULL THE TRIGGER ! ?

        SHE WAS NOT ACTING,
        SHE WAS PART OF THE FILM CREW !!!

        THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR FIRING ANY TYPE OF PROJECTILE
        AT ANYONE -- ESPECIALLY THE CINEMATOGRAPHER.

        PSYCHO DEMONIC POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] WAS OBVIOUSLY
        GOING OUT OF HIS MIND, MORE THAN USUAL.

        SEEING HIS WHOLE CREW DEPART / QUIT,
        DEMON POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] ALEC BALDWIN,
        JUST WENT AHEAD AND SHOT THE PEOPLE,
        IN TOTAL RAGE.

        LOCK HIM UP, AND PUT HIM AWAY FOR LIFE !

    Yes.
    The asshole was very anti-gun.  Contributed to an
    anti-NRA  Documentary ‘Making A Killing’.

    Then he goes, takes a gun, aims it at worker,
    pulls the trigger, and kills her.

    Of course he should be charged with a crime.

    If Charlton Heston did this they would have him in jail already!


    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all US population should join a gun club

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to George Black on Sun Oct 24 14:49:29 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, George Black wrote:
    On 25/10/21 6:01 am, a425couple wrote:
    On 10/22/2021 6:13 PM, Ras Tafarian wrote:
    MURDER — ALEC BALDWIN FIRES GUN AT CINEMATOGRAPHER
    ;
    ;
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10122393/Family-cinematographer-shot-dead-Alec-Baldwin-demand-answers-fight-fly-US.html

    ;
    ;    WHY WOULD ANYONE TAKE AIM AT THE CINEMATOGRAPHER
    ;    AND THEN PULL THE TRIGGER ! ?
    ;
    ;    SHE WAS NOT ACTING,
    ;    SHE WAS PART OF THE FILM CREW !!!
    ;
    ;    THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR FIRING ANY TYPE OF PROJECTILE
    ;    AT ANYONE -- ESPECIALLY THE CINEMATOGRAPHER.
    ;
    ;    PSYCHO DEMONIC POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] WAS OBVIOUSLY
    ;    GOING OUT OF HIS MIND, MORE THAN USUAL.
    ;
    ;    SEEING HIS WHOLE CREW DEPART / QUIT,
    ;    DEMON POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] ALEC BALDWIN,
    ;    JUST WENT AHEAD AND SHOT THE PEOPLE,
    ;    IN TOTAL RAGE.
    ;
    ;    LOCK HIM UP, AND PUT HIM AWAY FOR LIFE !

    Yes.
    The asshole was very anti-gun.  Contributed to an
    anti-NRA  Documentary ‘Making A Killing’.

    Then he goes, takes a gun, aims it at worker,
    pulls the trigger, and kills her.

    Of course he should be charged with a crime.

    If Charlton Heston did this they would have him in jail already!


    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all US population should join a gun club

    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws called
    the US Constitution.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From George Black@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Mon Oct 25 12:24:43 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    On 25/10/21 8:49 am, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, George Black wrote:
    On 25/10/21 6:01 am, a425couple wrote:
    On 10/22/2021 6:13 PM, Ras Tafarian wrote:
    MURDER — ALEC BALDWIN FIRES GUN AT CINEMATOGRAPHER
    ;
    ;
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10122393/Family-cinematographer-shot-dead-Alec-Baldwin-demand-answers-fight-fly-US.html

    ;
    ;    WHY WOULD ANYONE TAKE AIM AT THE CINEMATOGRAPHER
    ;    AND THEN PULL THE TRIGGER ! ?
    ;
    ;    SHE WAS NOT ACTING,
    ;    SHE WAS PART OF THE FILM CREW !!!
    ;
    ;    THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR FIRING ANY TYPE OF PROJECTILE
    ;    AT ANYONE -- ESPECIALLY THE CINEMATOGRAPHER.
    ;
    ;    PSYCHO DEMONIC POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] WAS OBVIOUSLY
    ;    GOING OUT OF HIS MIND, MORE THAN USUAL.
    ;
    ;    SEEING HIS WHOLE CREW DEPART / QUIT,
    ;    DEMON POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] ALEC BALDWIN,
    ;    JUST WENT AHEAD AND SHOT THE PEOPLE,
    ;    IN TOTAL RAGE.
    ;
    ;    LOCK HIM UP, AND PUT HIM AWAY FOR LIFE !

    Yes.
    The asshole was very anti-gun.  Contributed to an
    anti-NRA  Documentary ‘Making A Killing’.

    Then he goes, takes a gun, aims it at worker,
    pulls the trigger, and kills her.

    Of course he should be charged with a crime.

    If Charlton Heston did this they would have him in jail already!


    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all US population should join a gun club

    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws called
    the US Constitution.
    The royal WE eh.
    Wrong.
    We dont

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  • From Jeff@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 25 10:04:35 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    The asshole was very anti-gun.  Contributed to an
    anti-NRA  Documentary ‘Making A Killing’.

    Then he goes, takes a gun, aims it at worker,
    pulls the trigger, and kills her.

    You are making an assumption that he pulled the trigger.
    Misfire is being said a lot, so he may actually not fired intentionally.

    Jeff

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to George Black on Mon Oct 25 05:10:45 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/24/2021 6:24 PM, George Black wrote:
    On 25/10/21 8:49 am, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 10/24/2021 1:50 PM, George Black wrote:
    On 25/10/21 6:01 am, a425couple wrote:
    On 10/22/2021 6:13 PM, Ras Tafarian wrote:
    MURDER — ALEC BALDWIN FIRES GUN AT CINEMATOGRAPHER
    ;
    ;
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10122393/Family-cinematographer-shot-dead-Alec-Baldwin-demand-answers-fight-fly-US.html

    ;
    ;    WHY WOULD ANYONE TAKE AIM AT THE CINEMATOGRAPHER
    ;    AND THEN PULL THE TRIGGER ! ?
    ;
    ;    SHE WAS NOT ACTING,
    ;    SHE WAS PART OF THE FILM CREW !!!
    ;
    ;    THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR FIRING ANY TYPE OF PROJECTILE
    ;    AT ANYONE -- ESPECIALLY THE CINEMATOGRAPHER.
    ;
    ;    PSYCHO DEMONIC POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] WAS OBVIOUSLY
    ;    GOING OUT OF HIS MIND, MORE THAN USUAL.
    ;
    ;    SEEING HIS WHOLE CREW DEPART / QUIT,
    ;    DEMON POSSESSED DEMOCRAT [D] ALEC BALDWIN,
    ;    JUST WENT AHEAD AND SHOT THE PEOPLE,
    ;    IN TOTAL RAGE.
    ;
    ;    LOCK HIM UP, AND PUT HIM AWAY FOR LIFE !

    Yes.
    The asshole was very anti-gun.  Contributed to an
    anti-NRA  Documentary ‘Making A Killing’.

    Then he goes, takes a gun, aims it at worker,
    pulls the trigger, and kills her.

    Of course he should be charged with a crime.

    If Charlton Heston did this they would have him in jail already!


    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all US population should join a gun club

    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws called
    the US Constitution.
    The royal WE eh.
    Wrong.
    We dont

    Sorry Mate, Bit WE don't kowtow to the Royalty bit. To each his/her own!
    That is what a Democratic Republic is supposed to encompass.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From Jeff@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 26 10:32:06 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all US population should join a gun club

    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws called
    the US Constitution.
    The royal WE eh.
    Wrong.
    We dont

    Sorry Mate, Bit WE don't kowtow to the Royalty bit. To each his/her own!
    That is what a Democratic Republic is supposed to encompass.

    You missed the point, this is not a US specific group so 'We' don't all
    belong to the US or are covered by the US constitution.

    Typical US isolationism, there is more world out there.

    Jeff

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  • From George Black@21:1/5 to Jeff on Wed Oct 27 07:57:33 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    On 26/10/21 10:32 pm, Jeff wrote:

    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all US population should join a gun club

    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws
    called the US Constitution.
    The royal WE eh.
    Wrong.
    We dont

    Sorry Mate, Bit WE don't kowtow to the Royalty bit. To each his/her
    own! That is what a Democratic Republic is supposed to encompass.

    You missed the point, this is not a US specific group so 'We' don't all belong to the US or are covered by the US constitution.

    Typical US isolationism, there is more world out there.

    Jeff
    :)
    Pussers eh

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  • From Peter Stickney@21:1/5 to Jeff on Wed Oct 27 06:11:50 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 10:04:35 +0100, Jeff wrote:

    The asshole was very anti-gun.  Contributed to an anti-NRA  Documentary
    ‘Making A Killing’.

    Then he goes, takes a gun, aims it at worker, pulls the trigger, and
    kills her.

    You are making an assumption that he pulled the trigger.
    Misfire is being said a lot, so he may actually not fired intentionally.

    The term "Misfire" is being said a lot, in the broadcast media, but it is
    am improper use of the word by people who have no knowledge of the
    subject.
    Firearms do not go off by themselves. They require a conscious act by
    whoever is wielding it. In the case of a revolver like this, pulling the hammer back to full cock, and pulling the trigger to fire it single-
    action, or exerting a relatively strong pull on the trigger to draw the
    hammer back against its propelling spring, and then pulling further to
    release the sear holding back the hammer.
    A Misfire is when discharge of a firearm is attempted, and for a number
    of reasons, it has not actually fired. In that case, it's possible to
    have a late discharge - so the weapon should be pointed in a safe
    direction, not handled for a significant period of time, and then safely unloaded.
    Don't rely on movies or TV for your firearms knowledge - it's exxagerated
    at best, and outright delusional more often.
    The reality is, Mr. Baldwin was holding a revolver, pointed it at
    someone, and it discharged while under his control. A bad thing, but not
    a bolt from the blue - more a compounding of factors, all pointing back
    to him as the one wielding the weapon, and as the Producer (Boss)
    responsible for organizing an operation that could not deal with firearms
    in a safe manner. That production was already in trouble over safety
    issues.


    --
    Peter Stickney
    Java Man knew nothing about coffee

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Jeff on Wed Oct 27 04:10:31 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/26/2021 4:32 AM, Jeff wrote:

    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all

    ******US population should join a gun club*****


    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws
    called the US Constitution.
    The royal WE eh.
    Wrong.
    We dont

    Sorry Mate, Bit WE don't kowtow to the Royalty bit. To each his/her
    own! That is what a Democratic Republic is supposed to encompass.

    You missed the point, this is not a US specific group so 'We' don't all belong to the US or are covered by the US constitution.

    Typical US isolationism, there is more world out there.

    Jeff

    You really should have read the entire string here. I starred the above quotation to which I responded to.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From Jeff@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Wed Oct 27 10:40:55 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    On 27/10/2021 10:10, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 10/26/2021 4:32 AM, Jeff wrote:

    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all

    ******US population should join a gun club*****


    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws
    called the US Constitution.
    The royal WE eh.
    Wrong.
    We dont

    Sorry Mate, Bit WE don't kowtow to the Royalty bit. To each his/her
    own! That is what a Democratic Republic is supposed to encompass.

    You missed the point, this is not a US specific group so 'We' don't
    all belong to the US or are covered by the US constitution.

    Typical US isolationism, there is more world out there.

    Jeff

    You really should have read the entire string here. I starred the above quotation to which I responded to.

    Perhaps you did but you still made a comment that implied that everyone
    in the group ("WE") were covered by the US constitution, and then
    misunderstood the other poster's comment about the 'Royal We' and went
    on about kowtowing to Royalty which has nothing to do with the 'Royal We'.

    To clarify, the 'Royal We' is the misuse (or not by Royalty) of We
    instead of I; as in Maggie Thatchers "We are a grandmother". So the
    other poster was just trying to point out, in a jocular way, that your
    comment about everybody being part of a gun club called America was
    wrong as many of the posters are not from the US, but it went straight
    over your head!!

    Jeff

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Jeff on Wed Oct 27 04:50:39 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 10/27/2021 4:40 AM, Jeff wrote:
    On 27/10/2021 10:10, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 10/26/2021 4:32 AM, Jeff wrote:

    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all



    ******US population should join a gun club*****



    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws
    called the US Constitution.
    The royal WE eh.
    Wrong.
    We dont

    Sorry Mate, Bit WE don't kowtow to the Royalty bit. To each his/her
    own! That is what a Democratic Republic is supposed to encompass.

    You missed the point, this is not a US specific group so 'We' don't
    all belong to the US or are covered by the US constitution.

    Typical US isolationism, there is more world out there.

    Jeff

    You really should have read the entire string here. I starred the
    above quotation to which I responded to.

    Perhaps you did but you still made a comment that implied that everyone
    in the group ("WE") were covered by the US constitution, and then misunderstood the other poster's comment about the 'Royal We' and went
    on about kowtowing to Royalty which has nothing to do with the 'Royal We'.

    Oh my, Is this your time of month? There are no aspersions caste upon
    the worshipers of Royalty. In fact, that group is not even part of this commentary.

    To clarify, the 'Royal We' is the misuse (or not by Royalty) of We
    instead of I; as in Maggie Thatchers "We are a grandmother". So the
    other poster was just trying to point out, in a jocular way, that your comment about everybody being part of a gun club called America was
    wrong as many of the posters are not from the US, but it went straight
    over your head!!

    Jeff

    You do have a problem staying on point. But your efforts are surely
    appreciated by Someone???

    End of discussion. Move on.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From Jeff@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Wed Oct 27 17:44:11 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    On 27/10/2021 10:50, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 10/27/2021 4:40 AM, Jeff wrote:
    On 27/10/2021 10:10, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 10/26/2021 4:32 AM, Jeff wrote:

    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training. >>>>>>>> It would appear that all



    ******US population should join a gun club*****



    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws
    called the US Constitution.
    The royal WE eh.
    Wrong.
    We dont

    Sorry Mate, Bit WE don't kowtow to the Royalty bit. To each his/her
    own! That is what a Democratic Republic is supposed to encompass.

    You missed the point, this is not a US specific group so 'We' don't
    all belong to the US or are covered by the US constitution.

    Typical US isolationism, there is more world out there.

    Jeff

    You really should have read the entire string here. I starred the
    above quotation to which I responded to.

    Perhaps you did but you still made a comment that implied that
    everyone in the group ("WE") were covered by the US constitution, and
    then misunderstood the other poster's comment about the 'Royal We' and
    went on about kowtowing to Royalty which has nothing to do with the
    'Royal We'.

    Oh my, Is this your time of month? There are no aspersions caste upon
    the worshipers of Royalty. In fact, that group is not even part of this commentary.

    To clarify, the 'Royal We' is the misuse (or not by Royalty) of We
    instead of I; as in Maggie Thatchers "We are a grandmother". So the
    other poster was just trying to point out, in a jocular way, that your
    comment about everybody being part of a gun club called America was
    wrong as many of the posters are not from the US, but it went straight
    over your head!!

    Jeff

    You do have a problem staying on point. But your efforts are surely appreciated by Someone???

    End of discussion. Move on.

    Pot calling the kettle black!!
    You entirely failed to address my point regarding your implication that everyone (We) were part of a gun club called America; when we blatantly
    are not, and then your going off on one about royalty, completely
    missing the point re the 'Royal We' comment.

    Jeff

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  • From George Black@21:1/5 to Jeff on Thu Oct 28 07:51:08 2021
    XPost: alt.war.vietnam

    On 27/10/21 10:40 pm, Jeff wrote:
    On 27/10/2021 10:10, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 10/26/2021 4:32 AM, Jeff wrote:

    This being a naval group most in here have small arms training.
    It would appear that all

    ******US population should join a gun club*****


    We all belong to a gun club. Its called America and its bylaws
    called the US Constitution.
    The royal WE eh.
    Wrong.
    We dont

    Sorry Mate, Bit WE don't kowtow to the Royalty bit. To each his/her
    own! That is what a Democratic Republic is supposed to encompass.

    You missed the point, this is not a US specific group so 'We' don't
    all belong to the US or are covered by the US constitution.

    Typical US isolationism, there is more world out there.

    Jeff

    You really should have read the entire string here. I starred the
    above quotation to which I responded to.

    Perhaps you did but you still made a comment that implied that everyone
    in the group ("WE") were covered by the US constitution, and then misunderstood the other poster's comment about the 'Royal We' and went
    on about kowtowing to Royalty which has nothing to do with the 'Royal We'.

    To clarify, the 'Royal We' is the misuse (or not by Royalty) of We
    instead of I; as in Maggie Thatchers "We are a grandmother". So the
    other poster was just trying to point out, in a jocular way, that your comment about everybody being part of a gun club called America was
    wrong as many of the posters are not from the US, but it went straight
    over your head!!

    Jeff
    Bingo !
    Although that expression might well be misinterpreted cards on the table
    and all that ROTFLMAO

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